AMPing It Up

what's with the fat dog avatar?

hahahah
LOL

you are doin great too by the way. glad to see "pain" is getting typed less by you. keep your moves smooth, strong, and in control.


peace/out
 
Sorry man, I'm from the UK, is 'sick' good or bad?

I think the UK translation for "sick" would be "bloody good".
 
Ok here it goes. I went to the doctor today because I need to address my knee problems and I'm going to a physical therapist on monday, but she weighed me and this time I was 134 lbs, around 330.


129 to 134, and the 134 weight is an afternoon weight measurement, and this is after several weeks of training and dieting-------I still dont like your weight gain, Amp.

Post your calorie totals per day and your projected surplus from your MT line. What was your surplus from the start of the log up today? If its near the same or a very small variation, some adjustments need to be made here.
At least an approximation, AMP. this is key to your weight gain.

If you think about it, AMP. It has been several weeks. And, with things considered equal, you should have gained approximately 1 to 2lbs per week up to this point in time IF you had known your surplus and made adjustments in the surplus along the way IF the feedback in body wieght WASNT to your liking........

Here is my "average" routine:

Squats or Deadlift 3x10
RDL's or Leg Press 3x10
Bench 3x10
Dips 3x10
Some kind of row 3x10
Lat pulldown (sometimes pullups) 3x10
Some Iso's for either shoulders, biceps, triceps,calves, or abs

Display this on a weekly basis.......and lets some eyes look at it. Like what you do on Monday, Tuesday, etc.....for one week.

As far as progress grows, I really haven't noticed much of a difference in strength, but I think I am noticing a difference in body composition. I definitley have bigger arms, and my chest has gotten bigger I think. My stomach has also added a little fat, but I can still see the top of the abs.

Starting weight: 129, and most recent weight (afternoon weight which is not that accurate): 134. Once you factor in the normally bodily increase of weight during the day, your weight gain is minimal and up to this point, and to be honest------POOR.

What has your "progress" up to this point? Has your reps been going up progressively? Have you been tracking your progression? You MUST go into every workout with the mentality that your going to do better than the previous workout (in reps and/or weight). It wont happen "everytime" but it should be rather consistant with a person in your present position. If you get you get "stuck" on certain amount of reps at a certain weight---tell us how long it has been and what exercise, and we can give suggestions on how to break the plateau. This also another key to your weight gain.

When do you normally workout....what times during the day?

I eat probably 5 times a day. Breakfast, lunch, something after class, dinner, something before bed. The before bed most of the time is microwaved pb and whey. After class is whatever I can put together that hopefully has protein. If beef jerky is on hand some of that, possibly with some bread, or a pb sandwich, or maybe a shake with some other stuff. This meal varies the most. I can buy whatever I want, its my money and I will spend it to help myself. However, as I've stated before the majority of my meals will and should be coming from school made. One good thing is that I can basically decide the exact ingredients of everything that I want in whatever I get made for me. Ex: I can get a sandwich or salad with whatever I want, or (although I haven't had one yet) a burrito with my choice of toppings.

Can you squeeze in some pre and post WO meals? Small and quick?

In my opinion, with the weeks that have went buy, your weight gain ISNT up to YOUR STANDARDS-------And it appears from what I know thus far....you are not eating enough to produce the results you seek------TAKE CARE OF THIS.....and do what it takes.......AMP--even tracking calories if necessary until you get compfortable with KNOWING what you are eating in calories......

Really....something needs changed, BRO.



Best wishes to you my friend



Chillen
 
Flyin Free- I just think its funny:) And yeah since I've started doing physical therapy things have been getting a lot better.

G8r80- I love using the word bloody, even though I'm not english at all, nor have I ever been there.

Chillen- I weighed myself a few days ago and I was 136.5. Which means that I have been gaining roughly a pound a week. I truly could not give you a calorie total, but I have seriously just been eating a ridiculous amount of food. I try to get to this buffet as often as possible, where I eat and can't really move for the next few hours. But to judge what I've been taking in is something i can't do. The problem is I feel like I've also been gaining a good amount of fat. Even with these "slow" gains, along with the muscle it seems as if a good amount of fat has been put on. But if you think I can do better, and if other people think that this is no good, then I will change things, I just dont think my situation is as bad as you made it out to be.

As far as improvement, I have definitely noticed improvement in almost all areas. Not only size of the muscles, but also quality of the reps, weight I can move, and number of reps. It hasn't been as good as I would have liked though for sure. Pre and postworkout meals are a must for me. I always have that pwo meal with protein and dextrose, and preworkout meals for me are usually about 2 hours before I work out and contains some oats, protein powder, and some fruit. It's usually two hours before because I wake up have breakfast, go to class for an hour and a half and then go straight to the gym.

This was a somewhat general post, but I will go to the gym today, take a measurement , see how my lifting has improved, and give you some more information later on.

So to everyone on this board, if you see what Chillen does, go ahead and rip me apart. I want to improve, and I would love everyones help.

Peace and Love
 
Does anyone know a good lower body exercise to complement the deadlift? I usually do RDL's along with squats, but I don't know what I should do on days when I deadlift.
 
Chillen- I weighed myself a few days ago and I was 136.5. Which means that I have been gaining roughly a pound a week.

It would be more true or accurate, I should say, if the 136.5 was a morning weigh. THEN....I would tend to agree with you.

However, if this is an afternoon weigh, this is a completely different animal due to weight flexes as you go through your day. I just tend to believe the morning weigh should be the gauge.


I truly could not give you a calorie total, but I have seriously just been eating a ridiculous amount of food. I try to get to this buffet as often as possible, where I eat and can't really move for the next few hours. But to judge what I've been taking in is something i can't do. The problem is I feel like I've also been gaining a good amount of fat. Even with these "slow" gains, along with the muscle it seems as if a good amount of fat has been put on. But if you think I can do better, and if other people think that this is no good, then I will change things, I just dont think my situation is as bad as you made it out to be.

If you dont like the Muscle to fat ratio......one serious way of tweaking this is......if you have been tracking your calories, you already know what they are, and--------can make adjustments or fine tune things, and turn this ratio around....rather quickly....on the fly......

If you dont know......then what? Your stuck with---what should I do sort of thing---in the unecessary sense. When you KNOW your MT line, and then go over a small amount and track calories, and you dont like the ratio, just adjust the calories down.......in this you know that you are getting the calories you need to GROW,,,,,,but.....you just adjusted it down to compensate in what your body is telling you.........>SMART.....:)

You dont have to "necessarily" just.....adjust the calories, you could increase cardio or other form of exercise and burn MORE calories to compensate or off set the fat to muscle ratio.........>SMART........:)

Or one can adjust BOTH appropriately......possibilities are endless when one tracks----correctly........HEHEHEHEHHE........I know I sould like and OLD 46 year old.......YACK, YACK.......LOL.......

As far as improvement, I have definitely noticed improvement in almost all areas. Not only size of the muscles, but also quality of the reps, weight I can move, and number of reps. It hasn't been as good as I would have liked though for sure. Pre and postworkout meals are a must for me. I always have that pwo meal with protein and dextrose, and preworkout meals for me are usually about 2 hours before I work out and contains some oats, protein powder, and some fruit. It's usually two hours before because I wake up have breakfast, go to class for an hour and a half and then go straight to the gym.


This sounds grreat. You are progressing.....I currently have no GRIPES (HE, HE) here.........keep on progressing and rocking......





Chillen
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Todays workout:
Stretching

Deadlift
10x155
3x10x175 (I tore up my shins doing these, it really hurts)

Pullups
10
8
6 (ugh again)

BB Bench Press
3x8x50's

Seated Row
3x10x130

Dips
10x+10lbs
8x+10lbs
6x+10lbs, then dropped weight and did 3 more


Not a great workout today, I was pretty tired. And an hour before I was in a dodgeball tournament where I just destroyed everyone, except my team lost in the finals. In one game I got the last 5 people out in less than a minute, which was so awesome. They didn't know what was coming at them.

Chillen, I just really don't see how I can track how many calories I am eating each day. I'm not sure how to approach this whole situation, nor what you want me to do. It seems like you want me to track calories which makes sense, but I don't know how I can do that.

Ummmmmm... hooray for my fat dog
 
At the risk of insulting your intelligence, here is how you track your calories:

1. Write down everything you eat or drink, including the quantity.

2. Look at the label for calories / serving and multiply by the number of servings you had.

3. For items without a label, you can go to a source like for an estimate.

4. Add them up

Post a day's intake and I or others will help you.
 
The thing is that 80% of what I eat has no label, and I have no way of judging how much of the food I am eating. If, for example, I am having stirfry, I have no way of knowing the oz of chicken, or cups of rice that it comes with. It's just there and I eat it, so putting into one of those calorie counters would not work.
 
Deadlift
10x155
3x10x175 (I tore up my shins doing these, it really hurts)

Have you read Mastering the Deadlift 1-3? You shouldnt be hitting your shins at all. I have only hit my shins a few times a while back but now I regularly pull around max and never have this problem. Check the form.
 
The thing is that 80% of what I eat has no label, and I have no way of judging how much of the food I am eating. If, for example, I am having stirfry, I have no way of knowing the oz of chicken, or cups of rice that it comes with. It's just there and I eat it, so putting into one of those calorie counters would not work.

If you weight what you put in to your food and then put it in fitday it comes out reasonably accurate. The only thing about that is that it takes ages! I do it every so often when Im training but I do it for ball park figures about once every month or so.
 
The thing is that 80% of what I eat has no label, and I have no way of judging how much of the food I am eating. If, for example, I am having stirfry, I have no way of knowing the oz of chicken, or cups of rice that it comes with. It's just there and I eat it, so putting into one of those calorie counters would not work.

If the stirfry is prepared, it must have a label with number of servings and calories per serving.
 
I'm at college so it's a person making it for me, and giving me however much he makes. It's not prepackaged nor something I can weight. It's all fresh and good, but not at a set amount. It just depends on how much the person behind the counter decides to give me.
 
Ahora lo entiendo! You're right - it will be hard for you to determine the true calories but you can at least get a wild-@ssed guess using one of the online calorie estimators. Assume you are getting 1 portion and estimate it from that.
 
tooo technical on the food. Get over it already.... you are young a froggy!

Are you up for a challenge for tomorrow?

350 pushups. any way you want as long as you get them done between wake up and sleep time.
 
tooo technical on the food. Get over it already.... you are young a froggy!

Are you up for a challenge for tomorrow?

350 pushups. any way you want as long as you get them done between wake up and sleep time.

Hahaha I agree, this young froggy will just keep eating. Richard, I'll see what I can to appease you though.

And about this challenge. I'm lifting tomorrow, you still want me to do it then, or should I wait till wednesday. Either way.... Bring it!!:SaiyanSmilie_anim:
 
tooo technical on the food. Get over it already.... you are young a froggy!

Are you up for a challenge for tomorrow?

350 pushups. any way you want as long as you get them done between wake up and sleep time.

350 pushups......BUh.....Childs play. :) HE HE And, so are 600 non stop sit ups without stopping with more room to kick.......He he....:)

He needs to be froggy and technical to bring about his best.....and the calorie is the King that can do it for him if he so chooses.

But this is his choice.........AMP KEEP ROCKEN!
 
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I wish this froggy could just magically be a prince... but alas we must work at our goals.

I lifted yesterday and it was just a slew of exercises. I squatted which went really well, but then I had to wait a long time to find a spotter for the bench, and in between each set, which really made me angry:mad: So after benching I just started doing so many random things in a very poorly organized fashion... but I did get a lot done.

Tomorrow I would usually deadlift but I'm thinking of doing something else instead (not squats because I did that yesterday). Any suggestions? Right now I was thinking of doing weighted lunges, but I am very ill informed as far as working out the lower body besides deads and squats. Help!:eek:
 
damn it!!! i doi this long post to you and the computer hickup'd and lost it.

try to decide how many days and how much time you will give and let's put together a training plan for you.

make tomorrow's workout be - getting organized, an pullin your sheeet together.

you will see that prince start to appear if you get it mapped out... I PROMISE

also--

ditch that fat dog- it is not you, nor who, or what, you want to be--- bad for the mentals.

there is the short version of my long post.

FF
 
Amp89, I love your determination. I think the fact that you are at all concerned with nutrition in college says a lot about you. Here's a thought, something I used to use with patients in the hospital. Get a bag of dry pinto beans or rice, measure out one cup and wrap it in some type of light weight fabric or fine mesh material, almost like a bean bag. Do this for 1/2 cup and maybe 1 1/2 cups also. Obviously you wouldn't want to carry these with you (or maybe you would, lol) but keep them somewhere you can see them often, maybe on your dresser. Before long you will get used to recognizing what 1/2, 1 and 1 1/2 cups looks like on a plate. Use this knowledge to help you with your estimated calorie intake. For pieces of meat, 3 ounces cooked is about the size and thickness of a deck of playing cards or about the size and thickness of a ladies hand. Follow the general rules, avoid fried foods, eat whole grains, avoid concentrated sweets etc. and you should do well. In college I never counted calories and made some of the best muscular gains ever for me. Keep a close eye on the mirror. It doesn't lie. Hope this helps. Take care, Greg
 
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