Another long post. Leip if you don’t like long posts don’t read it. 
I have the right to voice my opinion within the rules and post in a manner I wish within the rules.
I have been sick the past two weeks with a serious Upper Respiratory Infection/Ear Infection that literally put me down in bed the entire time. I still haven't fully recovered, but I am about 85%.
I take full responsibility for my wife's actions in reference to the infractions and negative reps given to Derwyddon and Wrangell.
Its nothing short of a warped perception to think I would pose as my wife; Lei's inept and perverted perception of myself continues. This is fine he is entitled to this warped perception.
Now, I want to address Leip's post:
The forum rules upon registering to the forum are poorly written.
I don’t see violating "respect" in the rules of registering. Is it something you just made up or some moral doctrine your pulled out of thing air? Phate's post (at the time of these comments) seemingly hasn’t offended anyone (other than possibly you), and there has been just one comment on it and this was of course, Sara. Apparently the 1st amendment and forum rules has a "double standard" attachment to it.
I think a reasonably prudent person would conclude this post by Derwyddon is "Sexually-Orientated":
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa108/Chillenn/der-mast.jpg
A basic definition of Masturbation:
masturbation
masturbation
1 definition found
The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:
The act of masturbating; sexual self-gratification; onanism.
[1913 Webster]
The "definition" of "sexually-orientated" isn't within the rules of registering, but what is true is that her statement can be concluded to be "sexually-orientated" which IS in the rules of registering. Does she get an infraction? Or is the discretionary action of a mod (s) akin to a double standard?
There has been one post in the "Support for Chillen thread" that alleges a possible violation of the rules; however, the person who posted it wasn’t offended.
In addition, your own post in the "Support for Chillen thread" is "sexually-orientated":
A matter of fact, a lot of "sexually-orientated" and "inappropriate language" (i.e. obscene, vulgar, hateful, and threatening) posts get "overlooked" "or are "tolerated" by other members and mods. There really isn't a "absolutely clear" line drawn.
It appears the discretionary action of mods obscure the rule line barrier and therefore provides much fog within the rules they say they try to enforce. This happened within the ChillOut log.
The rules don’t imply the context or nature nor does it imply interpretation from a mod or another forum member (in the rules you posted….show me). Is it common sense that a mod review it, sure. I'm just saying if your pushing the rules, show me where it says that.
Phate was emotional and expressed his "opinion" and accompanying feelings about another member, and a simple PM would have served a better purpose and served the spirit of the board much better. Could he have used better words sure, but a lot of members have used this same direct approach and have been fine with no negative rep or infraction while others receives them--this is double standard.
If you are giving Phate an infraction, then Derwyddon deserves one for her "sexually-orientated" response and YOU deserve one for your "sexually-orientated" response. Let us live by the rules you boast. Or is this unilateral approach not within "the Spirit" of the forum (if you understand what I mean). I just stated this to make a point.
The following post was made in the former ChillOut Log by Evolution (a Mod):
Though you do not explicitly state my name as an example, I think its safe to say with the inclusion of "long posts and poems" that you are indirectly referring to me (as my posts are in fact the longest on the forum and I am the primary person making rhyme poems).
I will not change my posting style to new or existing members.
To paraphrase the post by Evolution (that has been since deleted since the Chillout log was deleted by my wife): If you don’t like it--don’t read it; if it annoys you, don’t read it. I have the "explicate right" to post in the manner I wish as long as it falls within the rules, and I have proof--they ALL HAVE. See below:
If my posts seriously hurt the effectiveness and cheapened the forum, then why in nearly 6 months as a forum member and over 4,150 posts (prior to my wife deleting the ChillOut Log because this took nearly 1,000 posts) hasn’t ONE MOD made a complaint? Gave me an infraction or any negative rep? Or a PM to change my post methods?
What is fact is that many mods have given me positive rep for some of my long posts.
I have made over 4,150 posts in 6 months (and some forum members have taken years to get that far), and if a mod cannot determine through this post count and its associated post contents whether I am good or bad on the forum (and take action to see me banned or disciplined), then there is a problem isn't there? The problem is its not a "universally" accepted and agreed that I am bad for the forum. This is nearly laughable.
I never tried to ramp up my post count (For what? What do I gain?); some have the perception I have tailored my posts to bring this effect, and this is just an inept perception and not truth. I don’t get financially paid for ramping up my post count; I don’t get financially paid for trying to help others; I don’t get financially paid for being repped on certain posts, and I don’t get personal satisfaction for the numbers in my post count contrary to some opinion. I only know what motivates me. All else is speculation and irrelevant to what I know as the truth.
I don’t stir up drama or debates.
I try to stay away from it (and I have proof)
Anyone who has watched my posts throughout the 6 months I have been a member should know this: A brief synopsis of my history.
1. I rarely partake in debate topic threads
2. I rarely partake in negative toned threads
3. My response posts to new members are usually very quick and decisive with rather long posts
4. I post to as many journals as I can and ask new members to make one
5. I respond rather strongly to forum members seeking motivation or are hurt in some way.
6. I write a specific way on purpose. It is "Just Common Sense" that what motivates one, doesn’t another; this should even have to be said. And, since this is true, it doesn't "cheapen" the feel of the forum nor does it reduce its effectiveness. I WONT CHANGE. Your perception is off if you equating falling numbers to me, this is so laughable.
7. I became angry rarely: (three things upset me: Spammer attacking another member, A member making fun of another member baring their soul for help, and ruining the integrity of the ChillOut Log)
A. I became angry when Tan was attacking Derwyddon's respectable thread just prior to her earning her certification (and ruining its "integrity and purpose" ), and went to personally assault him for this reason.
B. I became angry when a spammer was attacking Karky (Mreik took care of it)
C. I became angry for a LAME infraction Flying Free received for "sexually-orientated" language which did, however, offend SpicyPumkin at the time.
* EDIT : I stuck my neck out and called the BIG MAN OUT-Mriek, when he ruined Trevor's poll in the pop-in quizzes
D. I became angry when FF made fun of another members lose skin
E. And, I have become angry anytime the ChillOut log Integrity was violated. Though I respect other persons thread integrity (and see other members giving the same to others, and even explicitly saying so), I can't get members to "RESPECT" my integrity desires for the ChillOut log. This bothers me--and I feel I am justified.
This synopsis on how I act on the forum has no violation of rules. I have always tried to abide by and respect the forum rules. I just want the "integrity of the ChillOut Log" respected. This is a SIMPLE request and falls within personal respect of another persons thread. I know giving one respect to their journal/thread doesn’t go hand in hand in getting the same in return, but it does correspond to other regular member's behavior in other threads. Why cant my wishes for my log be included?
My behavior has NEVER been irregular or sporadic but always conforming to certain rules I set for myself. This is the truth.
My posting methods will not change. You will have to ban me, as infractions or negative reps wont be enough to put me down. I have a level of desire so intense this is why I am so successful in my fitness quests and post the way I do on the forum. Im not going away, but rather, I am up for the battle to restart the ChillOut log for those that benefit, and the integrity will be met that I set. So be prepared to ROCK ON!
Lets look at some that have stirred up drama. Namely Derwyddon and Lei with their inept perceptions.
I posted this thread:
http://training.fitness.com/members-lounge/chilled-but-left-unfulfilled-3-000-posts-28234.html
I asked Mreik to CLOSE this thread to AVOID any further drama. This IS THE TRUTH. I did not respond to my own thread after the FIRST negative comment made by Derwyddon.
However, Lei, wanted to continue and made this thread on his own:
http://training.fitness.com/members-lounge/unfinished-business-28284.html
He took my POSITIVE Rep I gave him completely out of context with his warped perception.
In addition, I contacted Mreik and told him I was not going to respond to this thread to AVOID further problems. However, I did respond with a positive comment. I firmly believe that with me staying out of the thread the atmosphere turned and had improved a potentially bad thread into a good one.
I had Pm'd Mreik several times, and my purpose was to KEEP PEACE. (And, believe it or not, this was the SOUL of my wife's action in the ChillOut Log, though I admit, I would not have reacted the same.). Lei's birthday come up at the same time or near the same time as this above links, and I posted something positive to his birthday thread. I don’t harbor ill feelings toward Derwyddon or Lei. Its just that their perceptions needs some remodeling.
I DID NOT CREATE the last drama concerning myself, Derwyddon and Lei did . This needs to be straight as it’s the complete and utter truth. The truth is I was disappointed by some remarks, because I have poured out my heart and soul in some posts, and one has to admit getting 4,000 posts in less then 6 months is a lot, and most of them--were not short. (I am just stating this to make a point--don’t misinterpret).
None of the mods had a "serious" problem with the contents of my posts. Tony had made some minor off the cuff comments, but added "I was one of his favorite posters". CASE CLOSED.
I know my posts are not going to be perceived well by ALL on the forum--this is just flat common sense But, is this so uncommon with posts on a forum in the first place?
EDIT: I am an honest person, I didnt lie when she called my wife the B word and me a spammer:
She doesnt recall this PM to my wife, and has selected memory most of the time. SHe became angry, and sent this PM, its as simple as this. I am just showing it to prove a point. She obscures the truth, and the reality IS--she has been harrassing me for a VERY LONG TIME. Things were fine when I ignored her. But one day in a forum thread, I said I wasnt going to ignore any more--and this results have changed. Take a serious look at some of her posts (concerning me in the COL, and other threads in particular (I have these if you want them). I have put her on ignore list, yesterday. The truth is, Im not the one to be looked at more closely, it is the action of Derwyddon, Lei, and Wrangell, and their attitudes toward me.
EDIT: When the ChillOut Log was brought back by Leip. Derwyddon and Wrangell, continued their harassment. I Pm'd Leip asking for PEACE, and she posted a comment in the ChillOut Log. Since this post, the ChillOut Log has been normal.
Best wishes to all of you!
ROCK ON!
ROCK ON!
And one more thing:
ROCK THE HECK ON!
I will NOT change.
Chillen
I have the right to voice my opinion within the rules and post in a manner I wish within the rules.I have been sick the past two weeks with a serious Upper Respiratory Infection/Ear Infection that literally put me down in bed the entire time. I still haven't fully recovered, but I am about 85%.
I take full responsibility for my wife's actions in reference to the infractions and negative reps given to Derwyddon and Wrangell.
Its nothing short of a warped perception to think I would pose as my wife; Lei's inept and perverted perception of myself continues. This is fine he is entitled to this warped perception.
Now, I want to address Leip's post:
The forum rules upon registering to the forum are poorly written.
I don’t see violating "respect" in the rules of registering. Is it something you just made up or some moral doctrine your pulled out of thing air? Phate's post (at the time of these comments) seemingly hasn’t offended anyone (other than possibly you), and there has been just one comment on it and this was of course, Sara. Apparently the 1st amendment and forum rules has a "double standard" attachment to it.
I think a reasonably prudent person would conclude this post by Derwyddon is "Sexually-Orientated":
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa108/Chillenn/der-mast.jpg
A basic definition of Masturbation:
masturbation
masturbation
1 definition found
The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:
The act of masturbating; sexual self-gratification; onanism.
[1913 Webster]
The "definition" of "sexually-orientated" isn't within the rules of registering, but what is true is that her statement can be concluded to be "sexually-orientated" which IS in the rules of registering. Does she get an infraction? Or is the discretionary action of a mod (s) akin to a double standard?
There has been one post in the "Support for Chillen thread" that alleges a possible violation of the rules; however, the person who posted it wasn’t offended.
In addition, your own post in the "Support for Chillen thread" is "sexually-orientated":
A matter of fact, a lot of "sexually-orientated" and "inappropriate language" (i.e. obscene, vulgar, hateful, and threatening) posts get "overlooked" "or are "tolerated" by other members and mods. There really isn't a "absolutely clear" line drawn.
It appears the discretionary action of mods obscure the rule line barrier and therefore provides much fog within the rules they say they try to enforce. This happened within the ChillOut log.
The rules don’t imply the context or nature nor does it imply interpretation from a mod or another forum member (in the rules you posted….show me). Is it common sense that a mod review it, sure. I'm just saying if your pushing the rules, show me where it says that.
Phate was emotional and expressed his "opinion" and accompanying feelings about another member, and a simple PM would have served a better purpose and served the spirit of the board much better. Could he have used better words sure, but a lot of members have used this same direct approach and have been fine with no negative rep or infraction while others receives them--this is double standard.
If you are giving Phate an infraction, then Derwyddon deserves one for her "sexually-orientated" response and YOU deserve one for your "sexually-orientated" response. Let us live by the rules you boast. Or is this unilateral approach not within "the Spirit" of the forum (if you understand what I mean). I just stated this to make a point.
The following post was made in the former ChillOut Log by Evolution (a Mod):
Though you do not explicitly state my name as an example, I think its safe to say with the inclusion of "long posts and poems" that you are indirectly referring to me (as my posts are in fact the longest on the forum and I am the primary person making rhyme poems).
I will not change my posting style to new or existing members.
To paraphrase the post by Evolution (that has been since deleted since the Chillout log was deleted by my wife): If you don’t like it--don’t read it; if it annoys you, don’t read it. I have the "explicate right" to post in the manner I wish as long as it falls within the rules, and I have proof--they ALL HAVE. See below:
If my posts seriously hurt the effectiveness and cheapened the forum, then why in nearly 6 months as a forum member and over 4,150 posts (prior to my wife deleting the ChillOut Log because this took nearly 1,000 posts) hasn’t ONE MOD made a complaint? Gave me an infraction or any negative rep? Or a PM to change my post methods?
What is fact is that many mods have given me positive rep for some of my long posts.
I have made over 4,150 posts in 6 months (and some forum members have taken years to get that far), and if a mod cannot determine through this post count and its associated post contents whether I am good or bad on the forum (and take action to see me banned or disciplined), then there is a problem isn't there? The problem is its not a "universally" accepted and agreed that I am bad for the forum. This is nearly laughable.
I never tried to ramp up my post count (For what? What do I gain?); some have the perception I have tailored my posts to bring this effect, and this is just an inept perception and not truth. I don’t get financially paid for ramping up my post count; I don’t get financially paid for trying to help others; I don’t get financially paid for being repped on certain posts, and I don’t get personal satisfaction for the numbers in my post count contrary to some opinion. I only know what motivates me. All else is speculation and irrelevant to what I know as the truth.
I don’t stir up drama or debates.
I try to stay away from it (and I have proof)
Anyone who has watched my posts throughout the 6 months I have been a member should know this: A brief synopsis of my history.
1. I rarely partake in debate topic threads
2. I rarely partake in negative toned threads
3. My response posts to new members are usually very quick and decisive with rather long posts
4. I post to as many journals as I can and ask new members to make one
5. I respond rather strongly to forum members seeking motivation or are hurt in some way.
6. I write a specific way on purpose. It is "Just Common Sense" that what motivates one, doesn’t another; this should even have to be said. And, since this is true, it doesn't "cheapen" the feel of the forum nor does it reduce its effectiveness. I WONT CHANGE. Your perception is off if you equating falling numbers to me, this is so laughable.
7. I became angry rarely: (three things upset me: Spammer attacking another member, A member making fun of another member baring their soul for help, and ruining the integrity of the ChillOut Log)
A. I became angry when Tan was attacking Derwyddon's respectable thread just prior to her earning her certification (and ruining its "integrity and purpose" ), and went to personally assault him for this reason.
B. I became angry when a spammer was attacking Karky (Mreik took care of it)
C. I became angry for a LAME infraction Flying Free received for "sexually-orientated" language which did, however, offend SpicyPumkin at the time.
* EDIT : I stuck my neck out and called the BIG MAN OUT-Mriek, when he ruined Trevor's poll in the pop-in quizzes
D. I became angry when FF made fun of another members lose skin
E. And, I have become angry anytime the ChillOut log Integrity was violated. Though I respect other persons thread integrity (and see other members giving the same to others, and even explicitly saying so), I can't get members to "RESPECT" my integrity desires for the ChillOut log. This bothers me--and I feel I am justified.
This synopsis on how I act on the forum has no violation of rules. I have always tried to abide by and respect the forum rules. I just want the "integrity of the ChillOut Log" respected. This is a SIMPLE request and falls within personal respect of another persons thread. I know giving one respect to their journal/thread doesn’t go hand in hand in getting the same in return, but it does correspond to other regular member's behavior in other threads. Why cant my wishes for my log be included?
My behavior has NEVER been irregular or sporadic but always conforming to certain rules I set for myself. This is the truth.
My posting methods will not change. You will have to ban me, as infractions or negative reps wont be enough to put me down. I have a level of desire so intense this is why I am so successful in my fitness quests and post the way I do on the forum. Im not going away, but rather, I am up for the battle to restart the ChillOut log for those that benefit, and the integrity will be met that I set. So be prepared to ROCK ON!
Lets look at some that have stirred up drama. Namely Derwyddon and Lei with their inept perceptions.
I posted this thread:
http://training.fitness.com/members-lounge/chilled-but-left-unfulfilled-3-000-posts-28234.html
I asked Mreik to CLOSE this thread to AVOID any further drama. This IS THE TRUTH. I did not respond to my own thread after the FIRST negative comment made by Derwyddon.
However, Lei, wanted to continue and made this thread on his own:
http://training.fitness.com/members-lounge/unfinished-business-28284.html
He took my POSITIVE Rep I gave him completely out of context with his warped perception.
In addition, I contacted Mreik and told him I was not going to respond to this thread to AVOID further problems. However, I did respond with a positive comment. I firmly believe that with me staying out of the thread the atmosphere turned and had improved a potentially bad thread into a good one.
I had Pm'd Mreik several times, and my purpose was to KEEP PEACE. (And, believe it or not, this was the SOUL of my wife's action in the ChillOut Log, though I admit, I would not have reacted the same.). Lei's birthday come up at the same time or near the same time as this above links, and I posted something positive to his birthday thread. I don’t harbor ill feelings toward Derwyddon or Lei. Its just that their perceptions needs some remodeling.
I DID NOT CREATE the last drama concerning myself, Derwyddon and Lei did . This needs to be straight as it’s the complete and utter truth. The truth is I was disappointed by some remarks, because I have poured out my heart and soul in some posts, and one has to admit getting 4,000 posts in less then 6 months is a lot, and most of them--were not short. (I am just stating this to make a point--don’t misinterpret).
None of the mods had a "serious" problem with the contents of my posts. Tony had made some minor off the cuff comments, but added "I was one of his favorite posters". CASE CLOSED.
I know my posts are not going to be perceived well by ALL on the forum--this is just flat common sense But, is this so uncommon with posts on a forum in the first place?
EDIT: I am an honest person, I didnt lie when she called my wife the B word and me a spammer:
Derwyddon said:
She doesnt recall this PM to my wife, and has selected memory most of the time. SHe became angry, and sent this PM, its as simple as this. I am just showing it to prove a point. She obscures the truth, and the reality IS--she has been harrassing me for a VERY LONG TIME. Things were fine when I ignored her. But one day in a forum thread, I said I wasnt going to ignore any more--and this results have changed. Take a serious look at some of her posts (concerning me in the COL, and other threads in particular (I have these if you want them). I have put her on ignore list, yesterday. The truth is, Im not the one to be looked at more closely, it is the action of Derwyddon, Lei, and Wrangell, and their attitudes toward me.
EDIT: When the ChillOut Log was brought back by Leip. Derwyddon and Wrangell, continued their harassment. I Pm'd Leip asking for PEACE, and she posted a comment in the ChillOut Log. Since this post, the ChillOut Log has been normal.
Best wishes to all of you!
ROCK ON!
ROCK ON!
And one more thing:
ROCK THE HECK ON!
I will NOT change.
Chillen
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