Why do I FEEL as tho I'm eating less, but my calories TOTALS say more??

Harold14370 said:
I eat cereal for breakfast most days. It works for me. I do look for cereals that are relatively low in sugar, and have a fair amount of fiber. Unsweetened Cheerios, bran flakes, rolled oats, that kind of thing. I eat it with fruit and skim milk.
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Harold, keep in mind that you're a man with a larger bodyweight and have a higher calorie allowance. When you're 140 lbs, you have to make every calorie count in a different way.

I had this conversation recently with a friend of mine who weighs 300. He's a big guy - 6'7" - and his goal weight is 250. His daily calorie allowance to lose weight is over double what I'm allowed. He can afford to eat some things that are less nutritionally packed ... because he's got leeway. The other day he went to an Italian place with his wife and had an entree that totalled 1100 calories. His comment was "that's about right for dinner anyway". Me? If I had a single meal that totalled 1100 calories, I'd be reduced to eating leafy greens for the rest of the day. :)

I do try to tailor my advice to the specific person and in this case, for the OP, cereal is going to have to be something that she avoids (if she wants to make nutritious choices) as long as she's limiting herself to 1400 calories a day or less.
 
KaraCooks said:
If you're not weight lifting, then it's not muscle. However, given what you ate yesterday, it's probably sodium and water retained.

Honestly, at this point, I think you're looking for excuses and something to bitch about. Fruits, yogurt, eggs, bread ... there's all kinds of variety there - there's no reason to complain that it's a "boring meal". How is it any more "boring" than a bowl of cereal with milk?

And why do you have to limit yourself to breakfast foods for breakfast? There's no law that says you HAVE to eat oats, eggs, or toast for breakfast. If you don't like breakfast food, then pick something else. Peanut butter. Chicken breast. Whatever. Sometimes I have soup for breakfast. Sometimes I have eggs for dinner ... there's no law about when you can eat certain foods.

Look, I'm happy to help and make suggestions, but you really need to work on this argumentative, dismissive attitude you have. People come to answer your questions and try to help you and you snip at them and it's really unpleasant. It makes me not want to try to help any more because I have no idea what kind of pissy response I'm going to get from you.
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I'm not trying to be argumentative. The boring meal comment was more of me just thinking about loud. It wasn't directied at you or anything you said. I appreciate (most of) your suggestions, and I do take them into consideration. I mean, I'm not going to be eating cereal b/c of you (tho I don't eat it much anyway, only when I'm home from school. But still...never again).

But you yourself can learn to practice what you preach. If I say I'm never going to eat at a restaurant again, that's my personal choice and my business. Who gave you the right to judge that as a "silly declaration"?? You don't know me.
 
If I say I'm never going to eat at a restaurant again, that's my personal choice and my business. Who gave you the right to judge that as a "silly declaration"?? You don't know me.
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Many peole who come on here often make wild and, yes, silly, declarations about "I'm never going to ... whatever ... again!!!!" (eat something, go somewhere, etc.)

That line of thinking is detrimental to a reasonable and healthy lifestyle. It causes people to feel deprived. It is probably one of the main reasons that people quit diets in despair and give up ... because they've made this vast declaration (out of anger, frustration, whatever) that they're "never" going to do/have/eat somethign again.

It's a silly declaration. I stand by that. Sure, maybe you dont' eat out very often and avoiding restaurants most of the time is reasonable and easy for you. So saying "Well, I don't eat out all that often and I think I'm going to make it a point to not do it again for a while" is far different from a drama queen style "I'll never eat in a restaurant again!!!"

Always/never statements are silly. They're counterproductive. They lead to failure.

I stand by that. :)
 
Kara,

You see how Harold14370 politely suggested I could eat other things besides typical breakfast foods for breakfast? And notice the kind of response he got from me?

But you on the other hand ... see, for most people, dieting is quite frustrating and part of the purpose of this message board is to come here, get some ideas, get advice, learn something new from others in similar situations, and vent! So if I want to bitch and moan and whine, this is the place to do it! B/c who else would listen to me in the real world?

As a fellow member, be more supportive and understanding and less condescending b/c you really don't know the people who are on this board, the kind of people they are, where they come from, or how they would react to certain things you say.

Just be easy. You really seem to know what you're talking about and I like reading your suggestions, even if they aren't for me. But when you come out your face and tell me I'm making "silly declarations" or being "stupid", I will have to say something back. B/c you don't know what I'm going through, or anything about me except my weight goals. You understand? This is me not trying to be defensive or anything, but to keep from another falling out, just try to empathize. I've never done anything like this before, and I've only been on for about a week. Give me some time...okay? Obviously my dieting exempts still aren't "perfect" or even close, so allow me to work on it without telling me that every single thing I'm doing "silly".
 
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Superstar,

Three things;

First: If you want to bitch, whine, moan, complain in youry diary - go for it. That's your area. When you post a question on the rest of the board and people take time to answer it, then a little less bitching and a little more "thanks for the help" is considered good message board etiquette. There's a fine line between venting and slapping back at people who are taking the time to look things up, research things for you and type out what they find to offer you good advice and help.

Second:
You see how Harold14370 politely suggested I could eat other things besides typical breakfast foods for breakfast? And notice the kind of response he got from me?
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You see how I suggested all that and more, and you totally ignored the amount of effort I put into helping you (looking up nutrition and ingredients), never said thank you, and slapped at me again?

Third: My responses to you are probably less tolerant than they are to others based on the posting history that I have with you. In the very first thread where we interacted, you were pissy and rude to me and lashed out several times - telling me I didn't know what I was talking about and you were right and I should just shut up - despite the fact that what you were posting was not correct. To be honest I was VERY reluctant to respond to your thread here because of our previous communication history. However I felt I could help and I tried to.

You have a habit of making all or nothing types of comments "I will never" "You always" ... etc. Those things don't lead to discussion or helpful comments. For example:

without telling me that every single thing I'm doing "silly".
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Have I actually told you that "every single thing you do" is silly? Or are you wildly exaggerating to make a point? Do you see what I mean? Calm down a bit, drop the hyperbole and breathe.

It makes it hard to want to respond to you or help you when I'm being constantly accused of doing somethign I'm not doing by someone who first says she knows exactly what's right and then admits in another post that she's new at this and still learning.

There's no shame in being new and still learning - so quit slapping at people who are trying to help you.
 
Kara,

If you seriously have that big of an issue with me, then don't respond. Because it seems as though you're holding a grudge against me, and talking to me the way you do is not going to make me listen to you anymore.

As far as what you brung up about our past encounters....I'm not even going to get into all of that and try to rehearse whatever was said, b/c honestly I don't remember half the shit we said and I don't feel like reviewing old posts.

As I just said, I do appreciate the information you post, even when it's not for me. I read them, and I take what you say into consideration, even when you're arguing with me.

But for the sake of my diet and my goals, which are much more important to me than these petty little exchanges, I'm willing to just let go of all that bullshit, and if you've ever felt offended or "slapped at" by what I have said then I'm sorry. I just really want to get this right because me losing this weight would mean everything to me. But please just calm down with the judgmental tone. That's like one of my biggest pet-peeves. I don't want you to not respond, just watch the way in which you do.

Cool?
 
The current state of the forum police here these days is a disgrace.

At least I somewhat get the feeling of what the Iranians and Chinese have to put up with.
 
Yeah normally it is a bit annoying when people bump up one year old posts just to make one sentence statements but that exchange between Kara and OP was highly amusing. So, I'll let it go.

You know what though, I've noticed this happens a lot. You'll suddenly see a three yearr old post pop up with a retardedly broad and vague messages such as, "Exercise and nutrition helps you lose weight" or "alrighty then". Most of the times these messages have very little to do to with the topic and are made by people with no prior posting history. Highly suspicious. I'm guessing they are info harvesting bots of some sort. I really would like to know what the deal is.
 
Nope, most of the time, the bot in question is GIVING extremely generic advice to the OP, (who most likely isnt even on the forum anymore). Ahh you'll see it when it happens. I think this topic's resurrection might be an example.
 
Daybehavior said:
Nope, most of the time, the bot in question is GIVING extremely generic advice to the OP, (who most likely isnt even on the forum anymore). Ahh you'll see it when it happens. I think this topic's resurrection might be an example.
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Maybe it is automated to search for specific keywords. :willy_nilly:
I don't usually pay that much attention to old threads that have been brought up again.
 
Isn't it come kind of subtle link spam, like they will have a blog/product linked as their website in their profile or in their signature etc? But yeah, an interesting exchange back on page one indeed :D
 
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