Why do I FEEL as tho I'm eating less, but my calories TOTALS say more??

Superstar922

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Hi all!

So for the past week and some change, I've been [seriously] trying to lose weight by eating less, and I'm quite careful about what I put in my mouth these days. So much so that I have lost 3 pounds! Yay...right?

So why is it that when I log my food on someplace like Livestrong.com, my calorie total comes out to be 1700 plus? I'm aiming for 1300. I don't get "stuffed" when I eat anymore, so I've learned to limit how much I eat. I only drink water, and have fresh fruits instead of fruit juices. I've been eating from a variety of healthier food options (different veggies, seafood, etc), I go to bed on an empty stomach (no more late night snacking), I haven't eaten any fried foods, or sweets (except this 1 reduced fat blueberry muffin and only 3 pieces of chocolate someone gave me for Valentine's day <--that's the only junk food I've eaten in the past week) and I actually feel as though I'm eating better. Hell, I know I am! So why do the calories go up so high?

Is anybody else having this issue??
 
Try weighing the stuff by yourself and counting the calories on your own without the help of the website, maybe there's some discrepancy in the amount of food it's counting.
There's always the very real possibility of course that you are eating more than you think, but since you're losing weight you can't be too far off.
 
I'm not sure I understand the question. Is it that you think that because you feel hungry you can't be eating as much as the calories say you are? The reason the calories total so high is because ... well .. that's how much you're eating.

The simple fact of the matter is that we all got to be overweight by eating too much. Most of us got to be overweight by being completely unaware of how many calories we were consuming.

Healthy food has calories, too. It's possible to eat too much healthy food and gain weight, just as it is to eat too much junk food.

Maybe you could type out what you're eating and let us see ... it would be easier to make suggestions if we could see what you eat.
 
Ok, I just went to your journal and looked at your food for the day. So ...

Breakfast:
- ~1 bowl of Smart Start cereal with ~1 cup of 1% milk (I'm home now an I hate that my mom doesn't buy fat free)
- 1 mug of green tea

Lunch:
- ~ 1/2 cup of rice
- 1/2 cooked spinach
- 2 oz (im guessing) of pan-fried haddock
- cup of water

Dinner:
- 1 1/2 salads at Ruby Tuesday from the salad bar with only these items...
> arugula lettuce
> spinach leaves
> black beans
> green peppers
> raw broccoli
> raw mushrooms
> sunflower seeds (sprinkled)
> Parmesan cheese (sprinkled)
> balsamic dressing
> Italian dressing (<^ a great combination, I might add)
- one serving of some meatless pasta salad (it tasted like it was garlic-butter flavored, but idk b/c there was no label)
- 1/2 of Ruby Tuesday's Ultimate Chicken sandwich (split it with my sister), but with NO bacon and NO honey mustard
- 1 1/2 cups of water

It took me a few goes over this to see how you could possibly be eating 1700 calories, but then I read through carefully and actually I come up with more like 1900 calories. I didn't notice a few things at first that you wrote and when I took it line by line, I saw quickly where the problem is.

I think the truth is that you're simply making poor food choices.

Cereal is a REALLY bad thing to eat when you're trying to control calories - even if it's "healthy" cereal.
Rice is nothing but empty calories / carbs.
Fried anything, pan-fried or otherwise is a poor choice when dieting.
Full fat dressings are a bad choice when trying to control calories.
Pasta salad is an AWFUL choice when you're controlling calories - most restaurant pasta salads are dressed in fatty dressings, olive oil, and butter, as well as being simple carbs that are more empty calories.

But the biggest thing is this: When you're on a diet you simply CANNOT eat things like sandwiches from a restaurant. You just can't. Sandwiches in restaurants are calorie traps - the buns are basted in butter or oil and grilled, the meat is basted in butter or oil before being grilled, and there are usually 2-3 servings of bread (by weight) in a restaurant sandwich.

Either the salad or the sandwich is a reasonable meal - but not both together.
 
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Ok, I just went to your journal and looked at your food for the day. So ...



It took me a few goes over this to see how you could possibly be eating 1700 calories, but then I read through carefully and actually I come up with more like 1900 calories. I didn't notice a few things at first that you wrote and when I took it line by line, I saw quickly where the problem is.

I think the truth is that you're simply making poor food choices.

Cereal is a REALLY bad thing to eat when you're trying to control calories - even if it's "healthy" cereal.
Rice is nothing but empty calories / carbs.
Fried anything, pan-fried or otherwise is a poor choice when dieting.
Full fat dressings are a bad choice when trying to control calories.
Pasta salad is an AWFUL choice when you're controlling calories - most restaurant pasta salads are dressed in fatty dressings, olive oil, and butter, as well as being simple carbs that are more empty calories.

But the biggest thing is this: When you're on a diet you simply CANNOT eat things like sandwiches from a restaurant. You just can't. Sandwiches in restaurants are calorie traps - the buns are basted in butter or oil and grilled, the meat is basted in butter or oil before being grilled, and there are usually 2-3 servings of bread (by weight) in a restaurant sandwich.

Either the salad or the sandwich is a reasonable meal - but not both together.


Healthy cereals are bad??

But I've reduced the amount of food I eat...that much I know. Everything is halved or cut down, and I can tell the difference b/c I'm not always SO full like how I used to be after eating. I mean, I lost 3 pounds for goodness sake! I will weigh myself tomorrow morning to see if the scale moved since Friday morning and see if my food intake has caused me to either gain or remain the same. My scale measures to the tenth, one decimal point to the right, so even if only a fraction of a pound is lost/gained I'll be able to see. Because the calories really just don't explain it. 1900 calories??? Wow.

That's ridiculous....
 
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Healthy cereals are bad??
Read the labels. 1 cup = 190 calories. How much of various nutrients do you get for that 190 calories? Just because something says it's "healthy" doesn't mean it is. When you're cutting calories, you have to make those calories count. Cereals are generally low in protein and fat which means limited satiety. They're a bunch of carby calories ... usually with sugar or fructose, and usually not with whole grains.

As far as the eating out: It's not that you can't ever eat at a restaurant ever again - making pronouncements like that is just silly. And it's, quite honestly unsustainable.

When you go to a restaurant, make healthy choices. Learn what the healthy choices are and make them. For example, Ruby Tuesday's menu has a whole section of what they call "Smart Eating Choices". From that list, the white bean chicken chili is 233 calories. The plain grilled chicken is 260 calories. The barbecue grilled chicken is 310 calories.

There's no reason to make radical, silly declarations about never eating out again. Instead make it a learning opportunity to figure out where you went wrong and not do it again.

As far as the weight loss, at your current weight, you will lose weight at 1800 calories, if you're combining that with workign out. So saying "the calories don't make sense" isn't true. The calories make perfect sense.

According to the Harris Benedict equation, your maintenance calories (using "lightly active" as a multiplier) puts your calories at 2100. So if you're eating 1800 calories a day or so, and working out, then you're eating at a calorie deficit and will lose weight. You might not lose as fast as you could, but you're still going to lose weight. So the calories make perfect sense.
 
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Ok, let's take a look at this "healthy" cereal. This is directly from the Kellogg website here:

RICE, WHOLE GRAIN WHEAT, SUGAR, OAT CLUSTERS (SUGAR, TOASTED OATS [ROLLED OATS, SUGAR, CANOLA OIL WITH TBHQ AND CITRIC ACID TO PRESERVE FRESHNESS, MOLASSES, HONEY, BHT FOR FRESHNESS, SOY LECITHIN], WHEAT FLAKES, CRISP RICE [RICE, SUGAR, MALT, SALT], CORN SYRUP, POLYDEXTROSE, HONEY, CINNAMON, BHT [PRESERVATIVE], ARTIFICIAL VANILLA FLAVOR), HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, SALT, HONEY, MALT FLAVORING, ALPHA TOCOPHEROL ACETATE (VITAMIN E), NIACINAMIDE, ZINC OXIDE, REDUCED IRON, SODIUM ASCORBATE AND ASCORBIC ACID (VITAMIN C), CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE, YELLOW #5, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE (VITAMIN B6), RIBOFLAVIN (VITAMIN B2), THIAMIN HYDROCHLORIDE (VITAMIN B1), BHT (PRESERVATIVE), VITAMIN A PALMITATE, FOLIC ACID, BETA CAROTENE (A SOURCE OF VITAMIN A), VITAMIN B12 AND VITAMIN D.

So let's see ... that's 11 times that sugar, honey, molasses, HFCS, or some variation of sugar appears in a list of about 22 ingredients (not counting the added nutrients and the artificial colors). That means one HALF of the ingredients in this "healthy" cereal is ... sugar in one form or another.

The 190 calories gives you 3g of protein, 0 fat, 3g of fiber, and 43g of carbs. And those 43g of carbs come mostly from sugar and sweeteners. You simply can't afford to waste 190 calories on something like that, when every calorie counts.

Read labels. Pay attention to what you're eating. Don't think that just because some marketing guru says something is healthy, that it is.
 
Point well taken about the cereal Kara, my goodness! I've been eating cereal with my daughter (she actually gets it more than me since Cheerios are quite easy for her to eat) about 1-2 times a week. I'm not a big cereal nut, but I do definitely eat it. And when I do, I eat like 2-3 bowls of it at one time because it is a nasty habit from when I was a kid.

I was under the impression that it was a decent choice (well, at least as opposed to something like Frosted Flakes for example LOL) for both my daughter and me, but in my quest to sensibly weed out as much processed foods from our diet as possible, I didn't really give cereal a seconds thought, as if it was given a free pass because it was "whole grain". And to analyze it further, if I indulge in 2-3 bowls, I'm eating roughly 1/3 to 1/2 my daily calories in one sitting. WOW! That is something to think about. Huh...even when you think you know what you're doing, you always find something you're doing wrong :)

To the original poster, I wanted to add a little something too, maybe more of a macro analysis than micro. You seem to be dieting the way I had been thinking was the right way for a while: I would limit my calories from the get-go in the morning and then be ravenous by evening, thereby eating a larger meal (or maybe just eating more in the evening in general) at night. However, I've found that if I don't try to "bank" my calories for night time usage, my dieting works better. Sensible, low calorie snacks like raw veggies and fruit are fantastic sources of healthy, natural, low calorie choices.

I agree with Kara about the dressings. Luckily for me, I don't like salad dressing so that is not a cause of concern for me, but I know most people do like dressings. Since that is obviously the case for you, you might want to consider how to approach the dressing situation so that you can still have it, but no get burned by eating too much of it. I'm not big on salads either, but here's an idea: how about a smaller sized salad to offset needing lots of dressing? This way you can add a better serving of protein and more satiating carbs to your dinner. I'm usually full right after a large salad, but hungry shortly after, so for me, I know I must eat a serving of protein (chicken) and a more complex carb choice. For me, eating a small salad is way less intimidating than eating a HUGE one, plus I can more easily spread out my veggie/salad servings over lunch and dinner, not just dinner.

For breakfast, why not a slice of toast (maybe some peanut butter) with some fruit or some oatmeal and yogurt? I eat eggs 2-3 times a week and I cut down from 2 slices to 1 slice as my dieting compromise since I LOVE eggs and cheese. This keeps me so full all morning, not to mention, very energized. Lunch is some sort of protein and carb mix, like I make a bean salad or tuna sandwich with a lot of lettuce. Dinner is usually half my plate veggies (fiber-rich ones like broccoli, cauliflower, etc), quarter protein and quarter carb. I also like to drink a glass of milk about an hour before bed. I've heard speculations about the type of protein in milk (casein) being slow to digest therefore being a great fuel source while sleeping, but I do this more because I'm hungry at some point before bed and that helps keep me from ransacking our pantry for worse options. So, either milk or yogurt.

Restaurant eating is really hard to do when you're trying to diet, so just be mindful of the places that offer healthier selections and stick to that. But, be mindful too of the portion sizes that come with those, or the add-ons. A last minute (hunger-induced) decision to switch out those steamed veggies for fries, a soft drink to go with that dinner, or maybe a cocktail with dinner will derail your efforts. Also, a lot of restaurants offer steamed veggies, but they're doused with butter, oil and spices to make them more flavorful. I find restaurant eating very difficult to do efficiently and thank goodness for me those options are few so I don't go often.

If the dieting at 1300 calories is too limiting for your eating preferences, the only other solution is to incorporate some exercise to help offset those additional calories. I don't see if mentioned your age, height or workout plan (if any), so I don't know how to help you with that. But, I know for me, I want to be able to enjoy certain foods now and then with friends or when I'm entertaining, so I know that 3-5 days of exercise is a must for me to lose weight. And I make those indulgences only here and there- not often.


Good luck!! As mentioned above, it is all a learning process and chances are you're losing weight even with simple mistakes. This is all preparing you for a healthier maintenance lifestyle once you've reached your 125 goal!

L
 
Yeah, the whole cereal thing is a big shock for a lot of people. We've been brainwashed by all those ads - you know the Special K Diet, or eat Total to get your daily vitamins and minerals, or whatever.

The only cereal that I think is anywhere near decent for the calories is Kashi cereals. The original Kashi Go Lean is 140 cals for a cup, 13g protein, and 10g fiber. Add a cup of lowfat or 2% milk to that, and it's a good solid breakfast for around 250 cals.

So far I really haven't found another cereal that meets my standards for "healthy" ... at least for someone who is having to really watch their calories.
 
I eat cereal for breakfast most days. It works for me. I do look for cereals that are relatively low in sugar, and have a fair amount of fiber. Unsweetened Cheerios, bran flakes, rolled oats, that kind of thing. I eat it with fruit and skim milk.
 
To the original poster, I wanted to add a little something too, maybe more of a macro analysis than micro. You seem to be dieting the way I had been thinking was the right way for a while: I would limit my calories from the get-go in the morning and then be ravenous by evening, thereby eating a larger meal (or maybe just eating more in the evening in general) at night. However, I've found that if I don't try to "bank" my calories for night time usage, my dieting works better. Sensible, low calorie snacks like raw veggies and fruit are fantastic sources of healthy, natural, low calorie choices.

I agree with Kara about the dressings. Luckily for me, I don't like salad dressing so that is not a cause of concern for me, but I know most people do like dressings. Since that is obviously the case for you, you might want to consider how to approach the dressing situation so that you can still have it, but no get burned by eating too much of it. I'm not big on salads either, but here's an idea: how about a smaller sized salad to offset needing lots of dressing? This way you can add a better serving of protein and more satiating carbs to your dinner. I'm usually full right after a large salad, but hungry shortly after, so for me, I know I must eat a serving of protein (chicken) and a more complex carb choice. For me, eating a small salad is way less intimidating than eating a HUGE one, plus I can more easily spread out my veggie/salad servings over lunch and dinner, not just dinner.

For breakfast, why not a slice of toast (maybe some peanut butter) with some fruit or some oatmeal and yogurt? I eat eggs 2-3 times a week and I cut down from 2 slices to 1 slice as my dieting compromise since I LOVE eggs and cheese. This keeps me so full all morning, not to mention, very energized. Lunch is some sort of protein and carb mix, like I make a bean salad or tuna sandwich with a lot of lettuce. Dinner is usually half my plate veggies (fiber-rich ones like broccoli, cauliflower, etc), quarter protein and quarter carb. I also like to drink a glass of milk about an hour before bed. I've heard speculations about the type of protein in milk (casein) being slow to digest therefore being a great fuel source while sleeping, but I do this more because I'm hungry at some point before bed and that helps keep me from ransacking our pantry for worse options. So, either milk or yogurt.

Restaurant eating is really hard to do when you're trying to diet, so just be mindful of the places that offer healthier selections and stick to that. But, be mindful too of the portion sizes that come with those, or the add-ons. A last minute (hunger-induced) decision to switch out those steamed veggies for fries, a soft drink to go with that dinner, or maybe a cocktail with dinner will derail your efforts. Also, a lot of restaurants offer steamed veggies, but they're doused with butter, oil and spices to make them more flavorful. I find restaurant eating very difficult to do efficiently and thank goodness for me those options are few so I don't go often.

If the dieting at 1300 calories is too limiting for your eating preferences, the only other solution is to incorporate some exercise to help offset those additional calories. I don't see if mentioned your age, height or workout plan (if any), so I don't know how to help you with that. But, I know for me, I want to be able to enjoy certain foods now and then with friends or when I'm entertaining, so I know that 3-5 days of exercise is a must for me to lose weight. And I make those indulgences only here and there- not often.

As far as eating less in the morning and more at night, that was only yesterday. Last Thursday or Friday all I had was fruit for dinner. So it's not that's how I habitually eat, but my father wanted to take us out for a movie and dinner afterward, and since restaurant meals are loaded with calories, that's how yesterday just happened to turn out.

And idk about breakfast anymore. I can't eat oatmeal, it's disgusting, and EVERY SINGLE diet website or w/e I've been to suggests eating oatmeal for breakfast. Just the sight of it makes me gag. So if I cut out cereal, then I guess I'm stuck with eating fruits, yogurt, or eggs and some kind of bread. What a boring meal. Guess that's part of dieting, huh?

And lastly I do workout at least two days a week (as a matter fact when I get off here I'm heading straight to the treadmill).
 
There's no reason to make radical, silly declarations about never eating out again. Instead make it a learning opportunity to figure out where you went wrong and not do it again.

Actually...I can go ahead and make those "silly declarations", cuz eating out is not something I can say I'm used to doing. Prior to eating out yesterday, I haven't eaten out for months! So weeding out eating out won't be a big deal for me. Okay?

I just can't wait till I can get into the campus apartments next semester, with a full kitchen, that way I can buy my own food and cook it. I love to cook, and I'd choose that over eating out any day.
 
So, as I said I would I weighed myself, and apparently I gained 0.8 of a pound.

This is so upsetting. That better have been muscle gained ^^^
 
She ment that you don't have to feel like something is never again since thinking that that often leads to feeling deprived and as such, likely to 'fall off the wagon'

She didn't mean offense at it and hopefully you will stop taking offense at such statements :)
 
And idk about breakfast anymore. I can't eat oatmeal, it's disgusting, and EVERY SINGLE diet website or w/e I've been to suggests eating oatmeal for breakfast. Just the sight of it makes me gag. So if I cut out cereal, then I guess I'm stuck with eating fruits, yogurt, or eggs and some kind of bread. What a boring meal. Guess that's part of dieting, huh?
I felt the same way about oatmeal, but tried it with a whole banana cut up into it, flavored with cinnamon, and it was okay.

I don't think you are stuck with anything. Eat whatever you like, not necessarily traditional breakfast food. Sometimes, I'll eat leftovers from the previous day's dinner.
 
She ment that you don't have to feel like something is never again since thinking that that often leads to feeling deprived and as such, likely to 'fall off the wagon'

She didn't mean offense at it and hopefully you will stop taking offense at such statements :)

I was not taking it as an offense. She does not know my lifestyle, so I was just informing her.

Me not eating out will not cause me to feel 'deprived' of anything. I don't do it much to begin with, so I honestly won't miss it. And b/c these restaurant foods are proving time and time again to be detrimental to my health and dieting goals, I'm opting to just stay away from them altogether and concentrate on eating better things, instead of wasting my time hunting for a "healthy restaurant" (if such a thing exists).
 
If you're not weight lifting, then it's not muscle. However, given what you ate yesterday, it's probably sodium and water retained.

I guess I'm stuck with eating fruits, yogurt, or eggs and some kind of bread. What a boring meal.
Honestly, at this point, I think you're looking for excuses and something to bitch about. Fruits, yogurt, eggs, bread ... there's all kinds of variety there - there's no reason to complain that it's a "boring meal". How is it any more "boring" than a bowl of cereal with milk?

And why do you have to limit yourself to breakfast foods for breakfast? There's no law that says you HAVE to eat oats, eggs, or toast for breakfast. If you don't like breakfast food, then pick something else. Peanut butter. Chicken breast. Whatever. Sometimes I have soup for breakfast. Sometimes I have eggs for dinner ... there's no law about when you can eat certain foods.

Look, I'm happy to help and make suggestions, but you really need to work on this argumentative, dismissive attitude you have. People come to answer your questions and try to help you and you snip at them and it's really unpleasant. It makes me not want to try to help any more because I have no idea what kind of pissy response I'm going to get from you.
 
I felt the same way about oatmeal, but tried it with a whole banana cut up into it, flavored with cinnamon, and it was okay.

I don't think you are stuck with anything. Eat whatever you like, not necessarily traditional breakfast food. Sometimes, I'll eat leftovers from the previous day's dinner.

Yeah, I was just thinking about that right after I made that post. :)
 
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