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Velocity Diet Log
- Thread starter Tanizaki
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Because it has no solid food in it. It is not a placebo effect for me because I do not believe that my body is ridding itself of undefined "toxins". When I mentioned the placebo effect, I was referring to people who undertake some action, such as quitting smoking, and then say, "Oh I feel like crap because I am detoxing". No, you are going through withdrawal.
And I'm sorry, but I think the meanings of the words we use matter.
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Main Entry: de·tox·i·fy
Function: transitive verb
Pronunciation: (")de-'täk-s&-"fī
Inflected Form(s): -fied ; -fy·ing
1 a : to remove a poison or toxin or the effect of such from b : to render (a harmful substance) harmless
2 : to free (as a drug user or an alcoholic) from an intoxicating or an addictive substance in the body or from dependence on or addiction to such a substance
3 : NEUTRALIZE 2
- de·tox·i·fi·ca·tion/(")de-"täk-s&-f&-'kA-sh&n/ noun
Since you brought up smoking...most would agree that nicotine classifies as a legitimate "poison, or toxin". When one quits smoking they are freeing themselves "from an intoxicating or an addictive substance in the body or from dependence on or addiction to such a substance". I'd say thats DETOXING. Plug in any unhealthy ingesting of "stuff" you can think of and the definition is the same. Hmm meanings of words really do matter. go figure.
Because it has no solid food in it. It is not a placebo effect for me because I do not believe that my body is ridding itself of undefined "toxins". When I mentioned the placebo effect, I was referring to people who undertake some action, such as quitting smoking, and then say, "Oh I feel like crap because I am detoxing". No, you are going through withdrawal.
And I'm sorry, but I think the meanings of the words we use matter.
_______________________
Main Entry: de·tox·i·fy
Function: transitive verb
Pronunciation: (")de-'täk-s&-"fī
Inflected Form(s): -fied ; -fy·ing
1 a : to remove a poison or toxin or the effect of such from b : to render (a harmful substance) harmless
2 : to free (as a drug user or an alcoholic) from an intoxicating or an addictive substance in the body or from dependence on or addiction to such a substance
3 : NEUTRALIZE 2
- de·tox·i·fi·ca·tion/(")de-"täk-s&-f&-'kA-sh&n/ noun
Since you brought up smoking...most would agree that nicotine classifies as a legitimate "poison, or toxin". When one quits smoking they are freeing themselves "from an intoxicating or an addictive substance in the body or from dependence on or addiction to such a substance". I'd say thats DETOXING. Plug in any unhealthy ingesting of "stuff" you can think of and the definition is the same. Hmm meanings of words really do matter. go figure.
I knew it wouldn't be long before someone tried a round of Dueling Dictionaries.
While nicotine is an effective pesticide, I do not know that I would classify it as a poison. After all, it has a higher LD50 number than Vitamin D (for those who went to public school, that means Vitamin D is more poisonous than nicotine). I suppose I am prepared to call nicotine a poison if you are prepared to call Vitamin D a poison. Will I start "detoxing" if I stop drinking milk? Maybe I'll feel better if I stop taking that multivitamin every day!
That having been said, nicotine metabolizes very quickly, with a half-life of 18-20 hours in the human body, thanks to the work of the LIVER that I mentioned earlier (emphasis added, as it is apparently needed). If you ask someone who has ever quit smoking, you will find that they are not feeling "detoxed" in a few days.
Your whole theory of "detox" makes not the slightest bit of sense. According to you, people feel bad when the amount of "toxin" in their body decreases. Doesn't that strike you as rather counterintuitive?
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who's to say they feel good with the "toxin" IN their bodies? Their body has merely adapted to depend on the substance. I don't know many smokers who feel great or obese people who eat crap all day saying they've never felt better. Its when the dependence is broken and the addiction is forced to be broken that people realize how much their bodies depended on the known "toxin" and its painful "withdrawl" symptoms (yes, your term can fit here as it is part of the definition of "removal"). But whatever, this isn't worth further arguing about. I disagree with you, you disagree with me. Good luck with your goal.
You did, when you claimed that feeling bad during the first part of the velocity diet was the result of "detox".who's to say they feel good with the "toxin" IN their bodies?
Smoking feels awesome.Their body has merely adapted to depend on the substance. I don't know many smokers who feel great or obese people who eat crap all day saying they've never felt better.
Its when the dependence is broken and the addiction is forced to be broken that people realize how much their bodies depended on the known "toxin" and its painful "withdrawl" symptoms (yes, your term can fit here as it is part of the definition of "removal"). But whatever, this isn't worth further arguing about. I disagree with you, you disagree with me. Good luck with your goal.
Detox is bunk. HTH!