too much protein?

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how much protein is too much protein for weight lifting. just wondering cuz everytime i buy a protein there is always a different amount of grams in one scoop and they always have different serving sizes (ex. 1 scoop or 2 or 3) how many grams should I be takin aftyer i work out. my last protein shake was only 22g a scoop, that dosent seem like enough to me. am I wrong?
 
You're not wrong. Try to consume 1g of protein/lb of bodyweight everday. A shake should have maybe >50 g if you're drinking it post workout, and not eating anything else.
 
my post workout shake is approx 24g of whey protein and 45g of dextrose.

eat 6 times a day. 1g of protein per lb of lean mass is a good place to start, but you might even wanna bump to 1.25g especialy when bulking.

so if you had 180lbs of lean mass, that's 180g a day, divided over 6 meals...you should get about 30g of protein at every meal, PWO included.
 
so me weighing 160 lbs i should take 160g of protein in one day. divided by 6 I should have roughly 26 or 27g of protein every meal? what if I took more protein during one meal, say maybe 35g of protein would that make up if I had something to eat without that much protein?
 
bigred,

I said LEAN mass. You weigh 160lbs, but what's your bodyfat?

pretend its 10%. that means 10% of 160 is pure fat...or 16lbs. 160 - 16 = 144lbs.

so 144g of protein a day would be your goal.

As to your question, you want protein to be pretty even at each meal, but if you're a few grams short one meal, then its acceptable to up another meal or two to make up the difference.
 
well i cant remember my body fat last time i checked and that was at the doctors. is there anyway i can check it now without goin to the doctors, i no there are some online claculators and what not but i dont believe those are too accurate, are they?
 
I thought you body could only take in like 30 grams of protein at a time and the rest you just pee out?

That's a myth that has yet to be proven by scientists.

If that were the case, everyone could eat 10,000 calories of protein a day and never get fat cuz they'd just expel the extra.

the reality is ANY surplus of calories from any macro can be stored as fat. some macros are more likely to store as fat than others, but protein can be converted into fat storage.
 
My PWO is like 45g protein (30 for whey, 16 from milk) and 90g carbs. It does the job.


christ that's alot of sugar!!... if you're doing that several times a day..


the thing with high protein intake iis that it mainly depends your fluid intake and on what else youre eating!... even over what exercise youre doing..
If you do it right and incorporate PH balance, you can get the same effect as steriods in terms of massively excelerated HGRH production but without the
liver/renal/heart drama aand without needing to have a small .... er package than you might otherwise and no violent side effects..


I wiill come back later and explain exactly what I mean.. but how mAny times are doing that PWO and what else aare you eating???...??

Blooming Lotus
 
christ that's alot of sugar!!... if you're doing that several times a day..

I wiill come back later and explain exactly what I mean.. but how mAny times are doing that PWO and what else aare you eating???...??

Blooming Lotus

I don't need you to explain anything to me pal. Reread it!!!

PWO=post workout!!!

That's the only time I have that shake.

Just how experienced and knowledgable are you? You don't sound very much of either.
 
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My PWO is like 45g protein (30 for whey, 16 from milk) and 90g carbs. It does the job.

Is that in a shake? or a meal?
If its a shake then its not considered a protien powder but a weight gainer.


I don't need you to explain anything to me pal. Reread it!!!

Just how experienced and knowledgable are you? You don't sound very much of either.

Hey man, this is a friendly place. Your a good guy and I respect you more than to mess with ur post, but maybe you could edit it, or apologize.
 
Actually I've had experience with Blooming Lotus on a previous forum. She's fairly crazy. BUT you could read her posts and find out for yourself.
 
I've posted this recipe on Dr. John Berardi's site. No one slammed it.

For post workout, provided the workout is hard, and mine always are, that many carbs are not an issue. The body utilizes them well for liver and muscle glycogen replenishment. I do not have this kind of shake at any other time as it would go to fat stores.

From Berardi's Post Workout Nutrition Article:

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/importance.htm

Therefore, by consuming a large amount of carbohydrates, you will promote a large insulin release, increase glycogen storage, and increase protein repair. Research has shown that a carbohydrate intake of 0.8 to 1.2 grams per 1 kilogram of body weight maximizes glycogen synthesis and accelerates protein repair. However, unless you've had a very long, intense workout, 1.2g/kg may be a bit excessive as excess carbohydrate can be converted to bodyfat. Therefore I recommend 0.8g of carbohydrate per 1 kilogram of body weight for speeding up muscle carbohydrate replenishment while preventing excess fat gain (van Loon et al 2000a).

I'm 85.3kg. My workouts are 1 1/2 - 2 hours long, supersets currently at 3x15 w/ 75s rest. I consider that long and hard.

85.3kg * 1.2g/kg = 102g carbs. I'm actually at a deficit. But say I should go middle of the road, 90g of carbs isn't too much higher than 85g.


Since a weight lifting program, again, if done hard enough, will raise the metabolism for up to two days, and all the carbs of my regular feedings come from only vegetables (especially spinach, I love the stuff), I'm losing fat, not putting it on, in the long run.

A PWO shake should be between 2:1 - 4:1 ratio of carbs to protein.

And to reiterate, buy "New Rules of Lifting." The workouts in it are intense and will hand you your azz over and over for as long as you like.
 
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just because a protein shake has simple carbs...doesn't make it a weight gainer.

post workout, you've depleted a lot of muscle glycogen. so post workout nutrition, replenishing glycogen and pushing protein into the muscles for repair is top priority. potatoes, white rice, or the right simple sugars are all perfect for this.

if anyone isn't familiar with the site, read and digest as much of www.johnberardi.com as you can. the guy is a nutrition and fitness expert worth listening to. Incorporate his ideas if you believe they are good. I've chosen to follow him for the time being, because it all makes perfectly logical sense to me.

I know Cynic reads him as well. I also believe that PWO is the only time Cynic has simple, sugar carbs (aside from soem fruit). that's how I do it too.

A side benefit is the insulin spike from dextrose post workout helps drive creatine monohydrate into the muscle as well.
 
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