Sport Sugar ok?

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How are you Lillian? I hope you are well, and things in life are going smooth for you, young lady. I wish you the best. :)

This subject has been touched upon before, on the forum in the past.

I mean most people (well, for lack of arguement) dont realize, that just about everything is so-called natural (it all basically comes from the earth), but what is natural isnt "necessarily" healthy (and this can depend on research and ones viewpoint).

Eat the wrong mushroom, he, he, for example, this is natural isnt it? Some of these an give you a buzzz (shut up :)), kill you, or make you feel like your friggen dead (what ever that feels like ;)). But they are natural nonetheless.

Most of the problems surface when these so called natural items are "mixed and matched" together with another natural item from earth or when formed together from another natural ingredient to form something---new (in the scientific world).

Like with most things in life, there seems to be pros and cons, with most everything. Some are clear cut one way or the other, while others its not so clear. We must make up our minds among the vast amount of information that is more available now then ever before.

Stevia is another example. Accepted by some to be great but not accepted by others to be that great. Which is it? A person makes decision based on tangible and reliable and acurate data--as best as possible.

And, "just for example":


Stevia has its own share of pro and cons dependent on ones view on the matter. I have studied this sweetner as well. It has been used for many, many years by several countries,without any noteable complictions, but still FDA will not aprove it, LOL (like FDA is reputatable in the first place):



(this is just one link, so take that for what its worth. There are other links supporting Stevia as well)

Best wishes,

Chillen

thanks chillen! i'm doing pretty good. hope you are doing well too!

i hear ya about sweeteners. i read through the link you posted. it's not surprising. although i think stevia is probably one of the better ones out there. i mean they are selling it in supermarkets and vitamin stores now. Here's a clip from the site and link saying it has been approved and a few other sites:

What is the FDA’s position on Stevia?
Results of extensive scientific research and tests in the US and around the world made it possible for SweetLeaf® Sweetener™ to obtain GRAS status, the FDA classification of foods that are safe. It is the first Stevia-based product to achieve this designation.



This article says it was approved by fda....


and another one...


i'm thinking maybe it was recently approved.
 
thanks chillen! i'm doing pretty good. hope you are doing well too!

i hear ya about sweeteners. i read through the link you posted. it's not surprising. although i think stevia is probably one of the better ones out there. i mean they are selling it in supermarkets and vitamin stores now. Here's a clip from the site and link saying it has been approved and a few other sites:

What is the FDA’s position on Stevia?
Results of extensive scientific research and tests in the US and around the world made it possible for SweetLeaf® Sweetener™ to obtain GRAS status, the FDA classification of foods that are safe. It is the first Stevia-based product to achieve this designation.



This article says it was approved by fda....


and another one...


i'm thinking maybe it was recently approved.

Yes, I have seen Stevia in stores recently where I live as well. I havent checked (recently) if Stevia has been approved by the FDA (like it would matter, the FDA sometimes is messed up on "certain things", while doing okay on others). We have to remember diet pills (so called fat burners) are not backed by the FDA either (except one, and its not without its problems. I am referring to Ali). The FDA does require the "fat burning" pills to have certain statements on their products when selling them. Other than some other minor guidelines......lol, they are still not "approved" by them. Isnt that messed up? LOL.

I will look into to it, Lillian, thanks.


Best wishes

Chillen
 
Yes Stevia was recently approved. Maybe a month ago or so. I remember seeing it on the health report on our local news.
 
Yes, I have seen Stevia in stores recently where I live as well. I havent checked (recently) if Stevia has been approved by the FDA (like it would matter, the FDA sometimes is messed up on "certain things", while doing okay on others). We have to remember diet pills (so called fat burners) are not backed by the FDA either (except one, and its not without its problems. I am referring to Ali). The FDA does require the "fat burning" pills to have certain statements on their products when selling them. Other than some other minor guidelines......lol, they are still not "approved" by them. Isnt that messed up? LOL.

I will look into to it, Lillian, thanks.


Best wishes

Chillen

you're welcome and thank you too! i'm interested to know what information you find on it. please keep me posted. thanks!
 
Simply speaking there are better sources for fructose, than the aweful and unhealthy refined white table sugar. LOL, I am not going to pull the various data pertaining to the "unhealthiness" of refined white sugar, because it is well known, and is generally accepted as being unhealthy in the medical field. Sure a small bit, isnt going to suddenly propel one to a coffin, but I choose to use the better alternatives, IMO. I "want" my blood sugar spiked in the mornings (IMO), as I am going to be pretty active. So, I eat accordingly. I have a good source of carbs coupled with a more so called natural source (when not low-carbing). And, as you know having spiked blood sugar prior to working out isnt a bad idea either. Additionally, we both know that the body is primed for (forms of sugar) after a workout. This morning, for example, I ate my famous (well at least with my 19 year old), Cocoa-Oatmeal bars, with a banana, along with two chicken breasts, and the unflappable and great Natty Peanut Butter :))). I just design my diet and satisify my sweetness cravings by using other sources, other than refined white sugar. But this is just me ;) :)


Best wishes,

Chillen

But table sugar vs fructoses.. pure 100% fructoses.. I know there is some fructoses in table sugar, but that's not what I'm referring to. Would it be better to put fructoses (100% or atleast like 99 :p) on the oatmeal than plain old table sugar?
 
But table sugar vs fructoses.. pure 100% fructoses.. I know there is some fructoses in table sugar, but that's not what I'm referring to. Would it be better to put fructoses (100% or atleast like 99 :p) on the oatmeal than plain old table sugar?

:yelrotflmao:

Cut down the caffiene, karks. lol :)

The caffiene is causing to much adreniline (sp) on attempting to "pull ones chain". ;)


Best wishes,

Chillen
 
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huh? I just assumed you didn't know what I was talking about since you started talking about fructoses in table sugar, I'm talking about pure fructoses..
 
Sry forgot ask something...Why is it that ppl don't worry about the sugar intake that much when its natural (kinda seems like it). Bout how much sugar should someone bulking put in? like sugar that comes from fruits, vegetables and stuff.
 
Sry forgot ask something...Why is it that ppl don't worry about the sugar intake that much when its natural (kinda seems like it).

Speaking personally, I am concerned with how foods can manipulate my blood sugar, because this can effect my cravings for food (and in some cases intensify them). And, simply putting a teaspoon of sugar in coffee can spike blood sugar......but not with me. :). If I self-control my sugar intake (eat mutliple "appropriate meals"), I can "assist" in controlling how my body reacts (or this case cravings, IMO).

Therefore, I use food (and not eating certain types of food) in the attempt to "stabilize" my blood sugar to prevent these types of side effects which is caused by sudden increases and decreases in blood sugar, and use food to increase my blood sugar when I need it most (like pre and post workout).

The more stable blood sugar (IMO), the more stable food cravings are (or they can be more tolerable). In addition, I do have the opinion that sugar stores (in the liver, etc), should be adequate, but should be reletively low, in cetain cases when deficite dieting. For example when low carbing, to make it look elsewhere for energy but still having some carbs available for energy (there is some truth that fat burns within a carbohydrate flame)......any hoot a short version........

Generally speaking if one eats fruit or other form of carbs, they should add in a protein item with it, as this tends to lower the GI effect as compared to eating the fruit alone. Personally, (on the losing tissue side), I believe being concerned about stablizing blood sugar is important to the deficit dieter, and it can be used effectively, when educated about certain things. However......., there are times when you "want" you blood sugar spiked (like after a workout, to replace some carbs that have been used, and to induce insulin response at the right time).


You see, I am IN CONTROL of myself. And, part of this is controlling my appetite. And, I do this by controlling blood sugar. Thus, A simple thing like using Refined White Sugar in coffee or other like items are out....period.


Best wishes,

Chillen
 
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