Stupid question

SkianS40 said:
You're right, I was foolish to step up to someone who can be wikipedia'd for being a total douche bag. I'll let you tell yourself you "won", just so you bask in the glory of your computer monitor.
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Don't be so jealous that I am famous on all the internets.

and Moonbeam... let's not be foolish. If it were so easy to determine what a 50/50 split was in a divorce, there would be a lot of lawyers with no business.
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Wut?

... and i just puked a little when i read that you think the less wealthy spouse is "entitled" to live the lifestyle they're accustomed to. Child support: yes, Alimony: to an extent, but no one is entitled to ANYTHING that they didn't contribute anything to!
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What factors do you think should determine alimony, then? Bitterness aside, I imagine there are very few marriages to which one spouse made zero contribution. My wife doesn't have to work because I have a prestigious job that pays me megabux, but I would not say that she contributes nothing to the household.

In Florida, a number of factors are used to determine alimony, including length of the marriage, earning capacity of each spouse, age of each spouse, contributions the spouses made during the marriage, and lifestyle accustomed to during the marriage. I imagine most states have similar factors. Of course, alimony is subject to revision or termination as circumstances change.

P.S.:
you assume that the less rich spouse is a "she", that's not the California/P.C. way to think of it!
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Perhaps, but that is the reasonable way to think of it. PC banshees may wail, but the fact is in the majority of marriages, the husband is the primary/only wealth generator for the household.

At any rate, the vast majority of my wealth is in a spendthrift trust, so it's not marital property.
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Not to mention if this person is "rich" spousal support could be mandated for half of the duration of the life of the marriage (in this case 5 years) so that she lives in the same manner to which she is accustomed. I believe in California spousal support is the norm after 10 years of marriage...
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Funny stats about income level after a divorce.

The mans income goes up an average of 10%

The woman's income goes down an average of 15%

(Thanks for the stats Playboy Magazine)
 
Tanizaki said:
Don't be so jealous that I am famous on all the internets.


Wut?



What factors do you think should determine alimony, then? Bitterness aside, I imagine there are very few marriages to which one spouse made zero contribution. My wife doesn't have to work because I have a prestigious job that pays me megabux, but I would not say that she contributes nothing to the household.

In Florida, a number of factors are used to determine alimony, including length of the marriage, earning capacity of each spouse, age of each spouse, contributions the spouses made during the marriage, and lifestyle accustomed to during the marriage. I imagine most states have similar factors. Of course, alimony is subject to revision or termination as circumstances change.



Perhaps, but that is the reasonable way to think of it. PC banshees may wail, but the fact is in the majority of marriages, the husband is the primary/only wealth generator for the household.

At any rate, the vast majority of my wealth is in a spendthrift trust, so it's not marital property.
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LOL....your not a lawyer :yelrotflmao:
 
Tanizaki said:
What factors do you think should determine alimony, then? Bitterness aside, I imagine there are very few marriages to which one spouse made zero contribution. My wife doesn't have to work because I have a prestigious job that pays me megabux, but I would not say that she contributes nothing to the household.

In Florida, a number of factors are used to determine alimony, including length of the marriage, earning capacity of each spouse, age of each spouse, contributions the spouses made during the marriage, and lifestyle accustomed to during the marriage. I imagine most states have similar factors. Of course, alimony is subject to revision or termination as circumstances change.

Perhaps, but that is the reasonable way to think of it. PC banshees may wail, but the fact is in the majority of marriages, the husband is the primary/only wealth generator for the household.

At any rate, the vast majority of my wealth is in a spendthrift trust, so it's not marital property.
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See now, I agree with EVERYTHING you have to say here...

...I just don't like the way you carry yourself.
 
Tanizaki said:
I am a lawyer. More importantly, I am not your lawyer.

That having been said, what you just described is outlandish. What state is this hypothetical taking place in? Is this even in the US?
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This is just a curious thought, not something I am planning to do.
True that it may be outlandish, but lets put the setting to where you know the Laws. Would this be possible there?

I think you used "hypothetical" wrong.
 
SkianS40 said:
So why did you even reply to the thread? Just to brag about your status as someone who spent a lot of money on school and passed a reasonably easy test? Your title doesn't hold any weight if you can't see that his hypothetical situation isn't very outlandish by any stretch.
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You can't actually make that statement. Because to do so you would have to have had first hand experience of becoming a lawyer. Which you are not, which would lead us to believe you failed the test. Therefore contradicting what you had origionally written about the test being easy. However, it could be based on what other people have told you, which would the be based on opinion. Therefore to make your statement your basically repeating what somebody else has said to you, which gives you no right to do so.

Of course, I have nothing against what you said to Tanizaki. Sure, he does seem to just turn up at any given moment to spread his 'expertise'. Seems to me that he has a serious issue in his own self esteem which he needs to address by arguing with people. Then declaring himself the winner when his opposition was never there in the first place.
 
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Alright look, nobody cyber-beat me for this, but in all fairness, the man is pretty much acting like a lawyer is he not? I mean, that's what they do. They debate point for point - and act really smart about it too.

I don't think it has anything to do with deep rooted issues of not getting a pony when he was 7, or anything like that. Of course, maybe it does, what do I know.

Either way, engineers tend to be very detail oriented and specific, lawyers tend to be argumentative, doctors tend to be very medically minded, and housewives will defend Oprah to the grave - it's just the way life goes, that's all I'm saying.
 
deschain said:
Alright look, nobody cyber-beat me for this, but in all fairness, the man is pretty much acting like a lawyer is he not? I mean, that's what they do. They debate point for point - and act really smart about it too.

I don't think it has anything to do with deep rooted issues of not getting a pony when he was 7, or anything like that. Of course, maybe it does, what do I know.

Either way, engineers tend to be very detail oriented and specific, lawyers tend to be argumentative, doctors tend to be very medically minded, and housewives will defend Oprah to the grave - it's just the way life goes, that's all I'm saying.
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Even I at 15 could probably dismantle him in an argument. If I could be bothered. There is a point where it gets to being outright annoying. Anyway, cyberbeats aren't that bad!
 
Woodt said:
Of course, I have nothing against what you said to Tanizaki. Sure, he does seem to just turn up at any given moment to spread his 'expertise'. Seems to me that he has a serious issue in his own self esteem which he needs to address by arguing with people. Then declaring himself the winner when his opposition was never there in the first place.
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I do it because I like it.
 
LOL, ok, I'm going to go over there for a while, so I don't get hit with any of the pee flying around everywhere in yall's pissing contest. I'm wearing a new shirt after all.
 
Tani, the problem is, you have as much class as Paris Hilton taking a dump in a urinal...

and to woodt, i have not taken the Bar exam, however, i have taken certification tests in my field, and am currently working on my CPA (which is ranked as MORE difficult than the Bar).

Aside from that, I went to school with a few people who have went onto law school and passed the bar exam. I scored better then these individuals all through school, and they even commented that the Bar exam was NOT difficult. So, through the transitive property, i can rightfully say that the Bar exam is "relatively easy".

A>B and B>C then A>C
 
SkianS40 said:
Tani, the problem is, you have as much class as Paris Hilton taking a dump in a urinal...
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Not only am I classy, but I am top notch and upper crust.

and to woodt, i have not taken the Bar exam, however, i have taken certification tests in my field, and am currently working on my CPA (which is ranked as MORE difficult than the Bar).
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I am sure that it is. This is how accounting study goes.
Day 1: This is how you add.
Day 2: Here is your degree.

I don't know how the comparison between the CPA exam and a bar examination can be made, as there is only one Uniform CPA Examination but 51 different bar examinations. I would interested to see the ranking that you mention. I wonder if it's an empirical source, or based on a few conversations with friends.

Aside from that, I went to school with a few people who have went onto law school and passed the bar exam. I scored better then these individuals all through school, and they even commented that the Bar exam was NOT difficult. So, through the transitive property, i can rightfully say that the Bar exam is "relatively easy".

A>B and B>C then A>C
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The form of your argument is valid, but the premisses are not.

I suppose I don't see how your comparative undergraduate performance gives a basis for comparison with professional school performance. Maybe if you'd gone to law school with them and then just decided not to take the bar exam, you might have a basis for comparison, as law school grades are a very good indicator of success on the bar exam.

"Relatively easy" is weasel words as it begs the question, relative to what? Relative to baking a pizza, it is very hard. Relative to doing 10 90° pushups, it is very easy.

I obviously think the exam was easy since I passed it the first time and only studied a few hours a day for it. I feel sorry for people who can't, like my best friend from law school, who has now been studying for the exam longer than we were in law school. Too bad!

It doesn't matter how hard the licensing exam is, only how much megabux you can make once you have the license. AM I RITE!
 
cant he put all his property under his mothers name like for creditor proofing. i use mother for example because if you are going to do this it has to be someone you trust.

also you cant just change everything over like example wife comes says wants divorce you transfer everything to mom name, cant court will take it back and apply 50/50 rule

if you do it this way you have to do it from the start. also might be different in US but thats how it is in canada i have heard of people doing such things

but when you get married it is suppose to be for life you know the part where it says "until death do us apart" i dont understand you americans with your high ass divorce rate not like that up north lol suppose to marry for life not 10-20 years in it for the long haul lol

like i said up to you dont know usually you trust your wife another way if you trust your wife when getting a house just put it in wifes name easy way just in case you go bankrupt the creditors wont be able to touch it

im in financial services so i know that field a lot cant really brag about knowing law let alone US law but if you want to save money and use Loop holes lol i can help ya if you live in :canadaf:
 
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