serious topic for once

[marko157]

ill start off by saying i dont want to offend people BUT fat people(men or wmen) scare me in a funny sort of way i think its the fact that they cant be arsed . And you see so many large people being the life and soul of the party(i bet they cry themselves to sleep at night)

and you always hear the excuse that there big boned (is that a real thing??)

im not saying that every who is big is lazy
but i believe every body whos lazy is big
i know ill probibily get flamed for this post because its not pc
i also believe that the bigger you get the less energy youu have(maybe not energy but inclination)_) basically they cant be arsed
every now and again i read these these boards and some guy(or women) as dropped from 250 or 300 lbs(fantastic good luck to them )to 170. in my eyes thats an inspiration to us all.but its the salad dodgers that do my head in. like i said before no offence on anybody people who post on here obviously have kosher questions and they do get good feedback.

 

[James1226]

ill start off by saying i dont want to offend people BUT fat people(men or wmen) scare me in a funny sort of way i think its the fact that they cant be arsed . And you see so many large people being the life and soul of the party(i bet they cry themselves to sleep at night)

and you always hear the excuse that there big boned (is that a real thing??)

im not saying that every who is big is lazy
but i believe every body whos lazy is big
i know ill probibily get flamed for this post because its not pc
i also believe that the bigger you get the less energy youu have(maybe not energy but inclination)_) basically they cant be arsed
every now and again i read these these boards and some guy(or women) as dropped from 250 or 300 lbs(fantastic good luck to them )to 170. in my eyes thats an inspiration to us all.but its the salad dodgers that do my head in. like i said before no offence on anybody people who post on here obviously have kosher questions and they do get good feedback.

I agree, for the most part. The only excuse for being fat is medical related. Otherwise, its laziness. You can always work off the fat you build, or eat better, yet the majority of people refuse to do so. Then want a miracle pill/battery operated strap to melt their fat away while they eat cheesy poofs sitting on the couch.

 

[Dallen]

And you see so many large people being the life and soul of the party(i bet they cry themselves to sleep at night)

Most people are fairly happy with themselves. However, it depends on how they're the life and soul of the party. Like are they doing a lot of physical moves to make people notice them? Are they joking about their weight? If they do, it's a good indication that they're secretly ashamed of their weight, but they want other people to notice them without thinking about their weight.

and you always hear the excuse that there big boned (is that a real thing??)

I think it is. Some people have naturally bigger bodies than others. Of course excessive weight isn't really "big boned."

im not saying that every who is big is lazy
but i believe every body whos lazy is big

I think somewhere out there a kitten's head exploded from thinking too much.

i also believe that the bigger you get the less energy youu have(maybe not energy but inclination)_) basically they cant be arsed

I think this is untrue. I see a lot of big people who are fairly active in many ways (such as sports, etc).

but its the salad dodgers that do my head in.

Actually, I was thinking about this the other day. I notice that people who are excessively large seem to eat more salad than someone who isn't. I dare you to go into a restaurant and look around and you'll see that the largest of people usually eat salad. I don't know why.


All in all I didn't get your post.

 

[marko157]

im sorry u didnt get my post dallen IT WAS rant you can nickpick what i said but ill stand by it and as i said in my post i was trying not to hurt anybodies feelings

 

[marko157]

large people eating salad in puplic =subconcious guilt

 

[Proteinboy]

Most people are fairly happy with themselves

how do you know this?

 

[marko157]

yeah, that's why plastic surgery and fitness hoaxes are two of the biggest industries in america, right?

that kinda proves my point MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THEMSE
LVES

 

[marko157]

uh.. i'm not necessarily 'offended' or anything by this post, but i don't quite get the point. lazy people are fat?

NO I DIDNT MEAN THAT WHAT I SHOULD HAVE SAID IS LAZY PEOPLE ARE FATTER(i know i shouldnt have started this thread)


let me simplify this pies and cakes no exercise+sat on arse all day=fat
the fittest person in the world could do that equasion and after 6 months hell be fat
(hows my back tracking??)

 

[DEF]

"serious topic for once"

Really?

"And you see so many large people being the life and soul of the party(i bet they cry themselves to sleep at night)"

Not sure if that's supposed to be funny. Perhaps this is because low self esteem due to being overweight causes them to overcompensate, using humor as a defense mechanism.

Not everyone has the benefit of having been raised in an environment rich with knowledge. A lot of parents teach their children poor nutritional habits from a young age and proactively trying to correct themselves takes dedication and potentially years of behavioral changing - particularly for those less fortunate who may not have daily internet access. And that's just for those without emotion-based eating disorders which aren't things most people can just 'get over' on their own.

I don't want to be the ass on this thread, but - because we are fitness geeks and are relatively well educated in this area - I think overweight people tend to get generalized as lazy with no desire to improve themselves. It's just not always true.

And we wonder why they might have a hard time getting this information...maybe we're running them off.

 

[marko157]

"serious topic for once"

Really?

"And you see so many large people being the life and soul of the party(i bet they cry themselves to sleep at night)"

Not sure if that's supposed to be funny. Perhaps this is because low self esteem due to being overweight causes them to overcompensate, using humor as a defense mechanism.

Not everyone has the benefit of having been raised in an environment rich with knowledge. A lot of parents teach their children poor nutritional habits from a young age and proactively trying to correct themselves takes dedication and potentially years of behavioral changing - particularly for those less fortunate who may not have daily internet access. And that's just for those without emotion-based eating disorders which aren't things most people can just 'get over' on their own.

I don't want to be the ass on this thread, but - because we are fitness geeks and are relatively well educated in this area - I think overweight people tend to get generalized as lazy with no desire to improve themselves. It's just not always true.

And we wonder why they might have a hard time getting this information...maybe we're running them off.

so youre saying lack of knowledge and poor nutrition is the reason why they are overweight?? what happened to individuality??

 

[DEF]

No. I'm saying not everyone is overweight due to laziness and not everyone knows or has the means to learn how to get out of it.

 

[marko157]

No. I'm saying not everyone is overweight due to laziness and not everyone knows or has the means to learn how to get out of it.

well i believe they have the means
get up get out WALK to the shop
they have legs dont they??
use them,
i dont think they can be bothered

 

[Dallen]

I think the true reason why people are fat isn't because they're lazy, or because they're poor on health value. The real reason is easy access to food. Think about 5 miles from your house... now think about how many places you could stop for food... any kind of food fast food, good food, any kind of food. And combine that with the fact that most people don't exercise that much, and now you know why there's a lot of fat people.

It really doesn't matter if you control your eating. Eventually... maybe not today or in the next year or two... but someday you're going to get fat because you eat all types of food that is readily available to you in just less than 5 miles from your house.

Now, take that, and look at places where there isn't as much food available in a 5 miles radius... now think about how many people there are fat. If you went to the country, very rarely would you see a young person fat... if ever. And in countries that are poor, but not homeless starving like some 3rd world country... you'll rarely see a fat person. Look at places like South America.. do you ever see a fat guy in some village of farmers?


And as far as people who think happy of themselves.. I think there are plenty of people who are happy about their looks. Maybe they could improve in some places, but I think overall people are happy. Just look at yourself... are you happy with yourself? I think you are most of the time... maybe some days you have bad days and others you have good. I think the reason why cosmetic surgery is so big isn't because it's happening to everyone... but rather the media is trying to put blame on the industry. I don't know a single person who got cosmetic surgery. Maybe it's unique for me, but I believe people are happy.

 

[marko157]

"serious topic for once"

Really?

"And you see so many large people being the life and soul of the party(i bet they cry themselves to sleep at night)"

Not sure if that's supposed to be funny. Perhaps this is because low self esteem due to being overweight causes them to overcompensate, using humor as a defense mechanism.

Not everyone has the benefit of having been raised in an environment rich with knowledge. A lot of parents teach their children poor nutritional habits from a young age and proactively trying to correct themselves takes dedication and potentially years of behavioral changing - particularly for those less fortunate who may not have daily internet access. And that's just for those without emotion-based eating disorders which aren't things most people can just 'get over' on their own.

I don't want to be the ass on this thread, but - because we are fitness geeks and are relatively well educated in this area - I think overweight people tend to get generalized as lazy with no desire to improve themselves. It's just not always true.

And we wonder why they might have a hard time getting this information...maybe we're running them off.

so basically its there parents fault??? if thats the case what age do they break the apron strings. in my eyes being overweight is an in dividual thing(problem)ive apologised for starting this threat lots of times and im not comfortable with it now . People have contributed to this thread and contridicted themselves my girlfriend is probibily a size 10 and i wouldnt dreamo of going with anybody bigger thats my preferance(11years)but if she put 50lbs on would i still fancy her th.E ANSWER IS YES.
BUT ALL IN All i dont find fat attyactive

 

[Chillen]

Out of the present debate, but I will share a story with ya:

I was in walmart one day at the checkout counter, and this rather large male (about 60lbs overwight), came walking up to check out, while the attendent was working on checking me out. The male was eating a "Quad Whopper" from Burger King, and had a large size of french fries......with a large diet coke.

I thought to myself many things, other than thinking that the diet (0 calorie cola) was doing absolutely nothing for him (at least bodily), and he turns to me and says, "Hey you look like you need one of these, want a bite?" I just kindly, said, "You look like you could go without one of those". Checkout, and went on my way.

In any event, this was a most stimulating experience--as far as mentally and philosophically for me. To make a potential long post short, the diet coke and his comment, spoke VOLUMES about HIMSELF.

Chillen

 

[DEF]

Obviously everyone is different and there are thousands of different reasons for why people turn out the way they do (yes, including simple laziness). I just wanted to point out that I don't think it's as simple as we sometimes make it out to be, not knowing the circumstances of everyones' lives (background, income, education, upbringing, access to information, emotional and psychological issues, etc.). All of these things can play a role.

 

[Chillen]

This is my short opinion:

We can never adequately judge the lives of others, because each person knows only their own pain and renunciation. It's one thing to feel that you are on the right path, but it's another to think that yours is the only path.

Sometimes judgements prevent us from seeing the good and the beauty that lies beyond the persons appearance. Sometimes judging yourself though someone else's eyes gives a different version than what you think of yourself in the first place

Chillen

 

[SmithMachine]

I think allot of overweight people would have rather low self a steam and depends on how there life is going at the time...some one who is having a hard time at life mite find it really hard to do something about there weight because they are depressed but on the other hand i think people that get pushed to that point where they just put there foot down and start to do something about it...depends on the person i guess...

I don't think a wealthy fat man would do anything about his weight other then lipo...why would he need to? hes rich lol its the people that feel they have nothing any more is when they do something about it or that there so conscious of how they look they cant go on without doing something about it...the ones that aren't conscious are the true lazy ones because they just really don't care...maybe because they got used to the fact that they will never be like the models on t.v? I think people are lazy because they have been hurt. Well the ones that let there laziness make them over weight.

 

[Wrangell]

ill start off by saying i dont want to offend people BUT fat people(men or wmen) scare me in a funny sort of way i think its the fact that they cant be arsed .

And you see so many large people being the life and soul of the party(i bet they cry themselves to sleep at night)

That is a bogus and sweeping generalization IMO. As far as large / fat people and ' crying ' goes...you are confusing body image with self-image.

I know 3X as many thin / skinny people - who fit this ' party now - cry later ' syndrome you describe - than large people.

And in some cases these thin / skinny folks have trained at gyms and are obsessed / addicted to exercise and it seems are never happy with their body image...usually due to a poor self image.

and you always hear the excuse that there big boned (is that a real thing??)

Bone structure and genetics do vary person to person.

im not saying that every who is big is lazy
but i believe every body whos lazy is big.

That's just ridiculous IMO

There are just as many lazy fat people as there are lazy thin people .Being fat doesn't mean someone is anymore lazy than someone who is thinner.

i know ill probibily get flamed for this post because its not pci also believe that the bigger you get the less energy youu have(maybe not energy but inclination)_) basically they cant be arsed
every now and again i read these these boards and some guy(or women) as dropped from 250 or 300 lbs(fantastic good luck to them )to 170. in my eyes thats an inspiration to us all.but its the salad dodgers that do my head in. like i said before no offence on anybody people who post on here obviously have kosher questions and they do get good feedback.

I think the reason it might get flamed might stem from perpetuating myths about being fat or overweight.

 

[Karky]

that fat people have to be lazy aint true, they could just eat tons. But it does kind of depend what you define as lazy and what you define as fat. Obsese people are usually lazy, i agree. But then again, aint most heavy weight Oly lifters and powerlifters pretty darn fat? yet they train ALOT. I know a girl who has a bit extra, i wouldnt call her fat, but she probobly qualifies as overweight, but she trains quite often, but she also eats alot of crap.

The "big bone" thing is not an excuse for being fat, bone is bone, fat is fat. My GF has fairly big bones, but shes skinny, only thing is she weighs a bit more than most people at her height and lean-ness due to her bones.