LandonsBaby
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i figured that was what happened. seems to be a lot of that out there.
Retaining Muscle
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Darth Pooh
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Agreed, but the mods do a great job of usually taking out the trash here.
I was just thinking about your earlier post about BCAA's, I am going to research them more. I am currently taking Whey Protein the days I lift (1 serving is 23 grams of protein, 110 cals, right after I work out with a banana for my carbs), CLA's, fish oils, CoQ10 and a multi. I wonder if those BCAA's would be beneficial or even necessary for me at this point.
Well off to scour the net on those. I will report back what I find if it's useful.
Personally, I'm not a fan of BCAA supplementation.
Especially in the context of a diet already rich in quality protein whole foods. From what I see the supplement companies tout as benefits of supplemental BCAA, it turns me completely off. Claims are unfounded to date in the context of the population they're directing their marketing towards; typically bodybuilders or ethusiasts looking to add/maintain muscle.
BCAA's, especially leucine, are important, but the addition of some on top of an already BCAA-rich diet is relatively unknown. We already know that protein synthesis is maxed out by a relatively low dose of proteins, in a 75kg male, approximately 20grams of whey. Once amounts get much over this, they start to be oxidised off, as the body has to do something with the amino acids.
The main trials that show a good benefit of BCAA's are typically those that give a dose when the subjects are taking in extremely low levels of protein. I remember one of the main ones pushed by the supplemetns company included BCAA supplements on top of 50g of protein in dieting subjects. When you are deficient in BCAA's, then adding them in is useful. When you have excessive amino acids like most bbrs would be, the situation is somewhat different.
Especially in the context of a diet already rich in quality protein whole foods. From what I see the supplement companies tout as benefits of supplemental BCAA, it turns me completely off. Claims are unfounded to date in the context of the population they're directing their marketing towards; typically bodybuilders or ethusiasts looking to add/maintain muscle.
BCAA's, especially leucine, are important, but the addition of some on top of an already BCAA-rich diet is relatively unknown. We already know that protein synthesis is maxed out by a relatively low dose of proteins, in a 75kg male, approximately 20grams of whey. Once amounts get much over this, they start to be oxidised off, as the body has to do something with the amino acids.
The main trials that show a good benefit of BCAA's are typically those that give a dose when the subjects are taking in extremely low levels of protein. I remember one of the main ones pushed by the supplemetns company included BCAA supplements on top of 50g of protein in dieting subjects. When you are deficient in BCAA's, then adding them in is useful. When you have excessive amino acids like most bbrs would be, the situation is somewhat different.
Doc Bunkum
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Agreed.
You have to sort the facts from the advertisements that people selling them claim. Which is no easy task.
Darth, do you read t-nation? There's an interesting article (commercial) on this link - Branched Chain Amino Acids .
After you read through all the mumbo-jumbo, click on the Discuss link at the bottom. You'll get the actual results from people that have tried them and what they really think about the whole deal.
I'm sure they do. Only they should have deleted my post also!
You have to sort the facts from the advertisements that people selling them claim. Which is no easy task.
Darth, do you read t-nation? There's an interesting article (commercial) on this link - Branched Chain Amino Acids .
After you read through all the mumbo-jumbo, click on the Discuss link at the bottom. You'll get the actual results from people that have tried them and what they really think about the whole deal.
I'm sure they do. Only they should have deleted my post also!
Doc Bunkum
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I might add, one thing that is rarely discussed, and something everyone would probably add to their diet if they knew more about them, are digestive enzymes.
These little critters are amazing in what they do.
If you want to make sure you get the maximum nutrition out of the food you eat, then these are the ticket.
I was at a conference in Houston last fall listening to Dr. DicQie Fuller (The Healing Power of Enzymes) speak, and really had my eyes opened.
These little critters are amazing in what they do.
If you want to make sure you get the maximum nutrition out of the food you eat, then these are the ticket.
I was at a conference in Houston last fall listening to Dr. DicQie Fuller (The Healing Power of Enzymes) speak, and really had my eyes opened.