Quiting My Job!

[i_love_muscle]

Since when is it actually required to give 2 weeks notice?

I think it depends a lot on the job and the industry you're working in. I don't think it's a legal requirement anywhere in North America to have to give 2 weeks notice.

In many jobs, if you resign, the company wants you out before the end of the day so you don't have a chance to do anything to compromise the integrity of the company you're leaving, i.e., blow up the building, load viruses on the computer system, copy confidential information, etc.

But it's always better to leave a position and not burn any bridges behind you on the way out

 

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[Lillian]

that sucks shellsy. did you end up finding a new one?

 

[Dallen]

2 weeks notices are really a courtesy rather than a requirement. Basically, if you hand in a 2 weeks notice, they can tell you to leave right there. And you're free to leave whenever you feel like it. Remember, all work is completely voluntary unless you’re a contract worker. Therefore, if you don't believe in it, just leave right there.

However, I must say hopefully you made the right choices. It's always best to take a vacation and sort it out in your head.

A reference is nothing more than a call to ask if you worked at that location and if you ever been late or whatnot. They cannot say, "Well this person just sucks!" No all they can say is, "Yes we had this person, and no, this person didn't cause any trouble." By leaving a work area, it's already known that you probably didn't like the area so asking if they liked the place or if they worked at a satisfactory level is not ideally why they call the previous work place.

 

[Kraken]

2 weeks notices are really a courtesy rather than a requirement. Basically, if you hand in a 2 weeks notice, they can tell you to leave right there.

However, I must say hopefully you made the right choices. It's always best to take a vacation and sort it out in your head.

A reference is nothing more than a call to ask if you worked at that location and if you ever been late or whatnot. They cannot say, "Well this person just sucks!" No all they can say is, "Yes we had this person, and no, this person didn't cause any trouble." By leaving a work area, it's already known that you probably didn't like the area so asking if they liked the place or if they worked at a satisfactory level is not ideally why they call the previous work place.

Legally they can't say anything bad about you. But apparently you don't realize how closely all these industries are intertwined. They will say whatever they please over the phone about you. Good luck proving that in a court of law. Your best bet is to uphold a good standing reputation throughout the inudstry. My reputation is what got me into this company after I was laid off from a previous company.

 

[Dallen]

Legally they can't say anything bad about you. But apparently you don't realize how closely all these industries are intertwined. They will say whatever they please over the phone about you. Good luck proving that in a court of law. Your best bet is to uphold a good standing reputation throughout the inudstry. My reputation is what got me into this company after I was laid off from a previous company.

That is why it's best to keep reviews with you and so fort. That way, you can go to another interview, and mention it if such an issue comes up.

However, I very much doubt they'll say anything bad about you if you gave your 2 weeks, and you have a good relationship. However, if you don't, just don't include it in the application. Say you don't wish to include your previous employer, however, you do have some prior reviews.

I also very much doubt about this "blacklist" thing. If you believe in it, then it means you watch too many movies. Real life doesn't really care. If you sound legit, I very much doubt they'll not hire you on the grounds that your previous employer said something bad.

As an example, I once got a job at college and I told them right up front how much I disliked the fact that my prior job changed management and that I didn't have a good relationship with the new manager. He said he'd like to talk to them about it, and he did, and he came back and said I got the job. Also, before that, when I walked out of McDonalds, and worked as a cashier, I told them right up front how much I hated McDonalds and that I walked out on them. They said that's fine. So basically, if you're just honest, they won't care. Just don't make it the main convo when you go to the interview. Just wait until they ask about previous employers and just say where you worked, and the fact that you didn't have a good relationship with them, and you decided to call it quits and look for places elsewhere (just don't say negative things, say what you did like and what you didn't like). If you just say stuff like, "I worked at X place, I did Y," but never mention the problems you had, then when they call, they might hear about it and then they might not hire you on the grounds that you weren't honest with them or that there were more to the problem. They're going to ask if they can call the employer and you just say, "Yeah, but I just want to say that I didn't have a good relationship with them and such and such."

 

[shellsy21]

that sucks shellsy. did you end up finding a new one?

I have 2 lined up. But Alex is so tired of me coming home having melt downs looking ill that he said we'll manage - and I do always find something. I'll keep ya posted!

Since when is it actually required to give 2 weeks notice?

It's true that its not required - My boss is a yeller so Im hoping he flips on me soon say I can say PEACE OUT - I would love to march out!! In the meantime the cash doesnt hurt for a few more days!

 

[Kraken]

That is why it's best to keep reviews with you and so fort. That way, you can go to another interview, and mention it if such an issue comes up.

However, I very much doubt they'll say anything bad about you if you gave your 2 weeks, and you have a good relationship. However, if you don't, just don't include it in the application. Say you don't wish to include your previous employer, however, you do have some prior reviews.

I also very much doubt about this "blacklist" thing. If you believe in it, then it means you watch too many movies. Real life doesn't really care. If you sound legit, I very much doubt they'll not hire you on the grounds that your previous employer said something bad.

As an example, I once got a job at college and I told them right up front how much I disliked the fact that my prior job changed management and that I didn't have a good relationship with the new manager. He said he'd like to talk to them about it, and he did, and he came back and said I got the job. Also, before that, when I walked out of McDonalds, and worked as a cashier, I told them right up front how much I hated McDonalds and that I walked out on them. They said that's fine. So basically, if you're just honest, they won't care. Just don't make it the main convo when you go to the interview. Just wait until they ask about previous employers and just say where you worked, and the fact that you didn't have a good relationship with them, and you decided to call it quits and look for places elsewhere (just don't say negative things, say what you did like and what you didn't like). If you just say stuff like, "I worked at X place, I did Y," but never mention the problems you had, then when they call, they might hear about it and then they might not hire you on the grounds that you weren't honest with them or that there were more to the problem. They're going to ask if they can call the employer and you just say, "Yeah, but I just want to say that I didn't have a good relationship with them and such and such."

do you seriously know nothing about the way the business world works?

Have you ever been laid off or switched jobs within the industry? Think about how many people know someone at your previous company. Clients, consultants, vendors, etc. The list is almost endless.

 

[Dallen]

do you seriously know nothing about the way the business world works?

Have you ever been laid off or switched jobs within the industry? Think about how many people know someone at your previous company. Clients, consultants, vendors, etc. The list is almost endless.

If I was laid off, then why would I be put on a blacklist for? Being laid off doesn't mean you're a bad worker, and you're suppose to put it on your app that you got laid off. Being laid off is a fairly common thing to occur and even more common to occur in certain businesses such as many blue collar workers. Even more so, certain companies welcome a competive company's lay off as getting experienced workers into their workforce. So if anything, being laid off then trying to find a job in the same field would make the other company even more interested in you because they know you got the experience in the same field and that you're looking for a job.

I don't see what being laid off has to do with being put on a blacklist where no one will hire you.

As for switching jobs, I don't see why you'd be placed on a blacklist? I mean can you please explain how that would work? I mean if you don't like somewhere and you switch jobs, why would they "blacklist" you so you won't get hired? That doesn't make any sense. Why would someone be "after you" just because you didn't like their place of work? I mean a manager that doesn't care about his/her employee leaving certainly wouldn't give a two-bit crap if you found a job elsewhere.

Now if you got fired because you're always late or because you never did anything, then how can you expect not to be blacklisted?

If you don't like somewhere and wish to move jobs or if you get laid off, I don't see why you'd get blacklisted. Been watching too much Godfather movies or something.

 

[Typhon]

do you seriously know nothing about the way the business world works?

Have you ever been laid off or switched jobs within the industry? Think about how many people know someone at your previous company. Clients, consultants, vendors, etc. The list is almost endless.

I've done that twice, and after being made redundant in April I now have an open offer of two jobs in Australia and Canada if this one doesn't work out. It‘s about networking, knowing your **** and acting professionally. So long as you don’t have a history of trying to screw over your current or ex-employers you should be fine moving around within an industry

 

[Kraken]

If I was laid off, then why would I be put on a blacklist for? Being laid off doesn't mean you're a bad worker, and you're suppose to put it on your app that you got laid off. Being laid off is a fairly common thing to occur and even more common to occur in certain businesses such as many blue collar workers. Even more so, certain companies welcome a competive company's lay off as getting experienced workers into their workforce. So if anything, being laid off then trying to find a job in the same field would make the other company even more interested in you because they know you got the experience in the same field and that you're looking for a job.

I don't see what being laid off has to do with being put on a blacklist where no one will hire you.

As for switching jobs, I don't see why you'd be placed on a blacklist? I mean can you please explain how that would work? I mean if you don't like somewhere and you switch jobs, why would they "blacklist" you so you won't get hired? That doesn't make any sense. Why would someone be "after you" just because you didn't like their place of work? I mean a manager that doesn't care about his/her employee leaving certainly wouldn't give a two-bit crap if you found a job elsewhere.

Now if you got fired because you're always late or because you never did anything, then how can you expect not to be blacklisted?

If you don't like somewhere and wish to move jobs or if you get laid off, I don't see why you'd get blacklisted. Been watching too much Godfather movies or something.

the point is you keep a good reputation and doors will open. If you are a ****tard you will get blacklisted.

 

[~LV~]

If I was laid off, then why would I be put on a blacklist for? Being laid off doesn't mean you're a bad worker, and you're suppose to put it on your app that you got laid off. Being laid off is a fairly common thing to occur and even more common to occur in certain businesses such as many blue collar workers. Even more so, certain companies welcome a competive company's lay off as getting experienced workers into their workforce. So if anything, being laid off then trying to find a job in the same field would make the other company even more interested in you because they know you got the experience in the same field and that you're looking for a job.

I don't see what being laid off has to do with being put on a blacklist where no one will hire you.

I agree with you to some extent but sometimes an employer will say that they are "re-organizing" the department and lay someone off because they wanted to fire them but couldn't. Most state laws require so many steps that an employer has to take in order to fire/terminate someone so the employer will, in some cases, take the "re-organizing" route because in most cases it's the fastes and easiest way to fire someone.

My point is that most hiring managers know about this so when they see that someone has been laid off, it may raise a red flag for them to see why they were laid off.

 

[evolution]

A company can state that they would not hire you back or that you are inelligble for rehire. No they are not supposed to say negative things about you. But they can state that they would not hire you back.

Companies also look at your employment record. If you change jobs too often or have a poor work-record, then it can, and often does, jade the way a potential employer looks at you.

Also, while some companies won't, but often if a person has had numerous times when they had a problem with management, it looks bad and will also jade the way a potential employer looks at you.

The other thing that does not look good is excluding job references that it looks like you had large gaps in employment history without a good reason for such.

And a lot of employers do talk about previous past performances. They're not supposed to do this. But they do.

 

[Dallen]

In other words, go get em, tiger.

Good luck to the TC though. Sorry for all the extended convos.

 

[tonymcclellan]

I've done that twice, and after being made redundant in April I now have an open offer of two jobs in Australia and Canada if this one doesn't work out. It‘s about networking, knowing your **** and acting professionally. So long as you don’t have a history of trying to screw over your current or ex-employers you should be fine moving around within an industry

Thinking of moving Rich?

 

[Typhon]

Thinking of moving Rich?

If I didn't have kids I'd be straight out of here.

Although Canada's too cold and Australia's out as I'm Arachnophobic

 

[i_love_muscle]

Hey Typhon, Canada is a huge country. We have all kinds of weather, depending on where you live. Summer high temps are anywhere from +20C to +40C and winter low temps are between -30C and -50C (sometimes those are the highs, too).

You might want to try the Okanagan area in British Columbia. They have AWESOME weather. But they do get snow in the winter.