Sport Question about soda/pop and energy drinks

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Firstly, I have taken/take 5 hour energy (not often occasionally on weekends) and it DOES really work as far as giving you energy. I assume it's more healthy than large Monster/Rockstar energy drinks, but is it really NOT bad for you?

My second question is about diet soda. Is diet pop (in moderation, like to chase shots when drinking on weekends) really that bad for you? It has 0 calories, but I'm not sure what else is in it. Some people even say diet pop is worse then normal pop, which just seems ridiculous. If someone could enlighten me on this topic that would be great.
 
Also, as far as diet pop goes, I'm not sure what i can substitute out for a chaser on weekend because I REALLY prefer something carbonated.
 
There was a recent study on rats that found that rats fed artificial sweetener got fatter than those fed sugary food. The thought was that the sweet taste without calories confused their bodies so that they ate more to compensate. Of course, sugary drinks are generally not good for you either (except during or immediately after long or hard exercise).
 
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Firstly, I have taken/take 5 hour energy (not often occasionally on weekends) and it DOES really work as far as giving you energy. I assume it's more healthy than large Monster/Rockstar energy drinks, but is it really NOT bad for you?

My second question is about diet soda. Is diet pop (in moderation, like to chase shots when drinking on weekends) really that bad for you? It has 0 calories, but I'm not sure what else is in it. Some people even say diet pop is worse then normal pop, which just seems ridiculous. If someone could enlighten me on this topic that would be great.

Speaking strictly for proper tissue loss, and assuming you have (no adverse reaction to artificial sweeteners), diet soda is fine and will "fit within the perimeters required for tissue loss", not necessarily speaking to the health debate/argument. Moderation is a key factor here.

The same with Energy Drinks. If you choose to drink these, then you must consider some of their nutritional properties and how this "fits" within the requirement toward your personal goal (again, the health argument/debate being left out). Some can be up near 200 calories plus. While some of the SF/low carbohydrate varieties, are 10-20 calories per serving (and usually there are two servings). These have a very high amount of caffeine, and an exaggerated amount of other nutrients/micro nutrients, and can be unhealthy if consumed in excess (dependent on what this excess is), and how your body processes these sorts of amounts over time: which can be variable per person. Moderation is key.

And, I agree with Hoss.

Alcohol can be very complicated subject matter with people. But no matter the complication, the truth will remain the same.

Alcohol carries calories which can absolutely ruin a person dieting to lose tissue (dependent on what they ate during the day, and other factors), and this "can be" just the beginning of the sorrows, cause alcohol is processed much differently as compared to other liquids, and just simply does "things" contradictory to a persons goal when consumed in excess (depending on what this excess is).

Alcohol.......can be......a personal disaster for some people with personal goals.

And, this is just the beginning of your sorrows toward your personal goal.

The "type" of calories in this hypothetical environment DO MATTER. Why? Because the over-consumption of alcohol causes many organs in your body--to "shift focus" to a: "intoxicating invader", and it has no choice but to deal with it. Your liver is doing dead lifts in detoxifying your blood, and your kidney's are performing back-squats in filtering, and so on and so forth with physiological stresses. You become dehydrated (maybe....even sick, with nausea, and vomiting). You may drink boat-loads of water in the process. To put this simply, your body isn't necessarily in the "mood" for fat loss at this time, or in some cases improving another goal perimeter.

And (on the flip side), in this position, I don't think it has muscle growth on its agenda of primary importance at this time.

In addition, alcohol is a "great" dehydrator when consumed in excess, which is another negativity in muscle growth. A lot of variable factors can come into play (such as how frequent the excessive drinking happens, moderation, food consumption, etc).

I could go on with the excess negatives, but will keep it short.

Moderation is key here......and if you choose to drink, and have a personal goal........either fit it in....appropriately and healthy.....or......

If it doesn't fit. You must acquit: Get rid of it. :)

If you do not, and choose to drink anyway, and it affects your goal in some negative fashion, then you are drinking in self poured.............wine.


Best wishes,

Chillen
 
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Personally, I am of the opinion that manufactured food like products should be avoided at all costs. If there's no chance of it happening naturally it isn't food. And I don't think it is a good idea to trust Monsanto to make me food-like items that really are in anyway as good for me.

I have no problem with alcoholic beverages in moderation, but for the rest of your question, my advice would be to learn to drink water and juices, and avoid mixes of chemicals that claim to be edible.
 
Is diet pop (in moderation, like to chase shots when drinking on weekends) really that bad for you?

You're worried about the diet soda? That's like going to McDonalds and asking for a diet soda to go with your Big Mac because you don't want to fill your body full of crap.
 
You're worried about the diet soda? That's like going to McDonalds and asking for a diet soda to go with your Big Mac because you don't want to fill your body full of crap.

Sure I am. I appreciate all your guys responses, they were very enlightening, especially Chillens. However, I'm asking about the diet pop because I AM GOING TO DRINK, I'm a college student, I live with 5 guys in a party house who all drink, 2 of which are kinesology majors (pretty ironic), but it's just how it's going to be. Two times a week, so yes I'm concerned more about what my chaser is than the vodka because it's going to happen... Kansas Univ is a big party school and I know that it is a bit ridiculous but hey, it's a reality.
 
but hey, it's a reality.

No offense, but you act like you have no choice in the matter. If you are that little willpower...

Best of luck though, and try to live with some moderation in all aspects. Enjoy life and have fun, just not at your own expense :)
 
No offense, but you act like you have no choice in the matter. If you are that little willpower...

Best of luck though, and try to live with some moderation in all aspects. Enjoy life and have fun, just not at your own expense :)

I respect that... and I know what I'm doing on the weekends isn't the best for me but there's a lot more people out there doing a LOT worse things to their body-- I know I shouldn't look at it like that =/.
 
Firstly, I have taken/take 5 hour energy (not often occasionally on weekends) and it DOES really work as far as giving you energy. I assume it's more healthy than large Monster/Rockstar energy drinks, but is it really NOT bad for you?

My second question is about diet soda. Is diet pop (in moderation, like to chase shots when drinking on weekends) really that bad for you? It has 0 calories, but I'm not sure what else is in it. Some people even say diet pop is worse then normal pop, which just seems ridiculous. If someone could enlighten me on this topic that would be great.

Diet soda, every once in a while, is not a problem. The alcohol would be more of a concern because it slows the absorbtion of good nutrients into the muscle cells.
 
You're worried about the diet soda? That's like going to McDonalds and asking for a diet soda to go with your Big Mac because you don't want to fill your body full of crap.

Just wanted to drag this point up.
Yeah I order a diet soda if i ever have a mcDonalds.
a big mac and frys is over 1000 cals. I can justify that in my diet. But there is no point in having an extra 310cals of sugar just for the slight difference in taste.
 
Just wanted to drag this point up.
Yeah I order a diet soda if i ever have a mcDonalds.
a big mac and frys is over 1000 cals. I can justify that in my diet. But there is no point in having an extra 310cals of sugar just for the slight difference in taste.

Your diet is about a hell of a lot more than calories, when I refered to McDonald's as 'a load of crap', calorie content didn't enter my mind.

If you justify what you consume by calorie counts then you need to take a long hard look at your diet (and get your blood pressure checked)

If you fancy looking at just numbers then what about this?
Big Mac + medium fries = 74% of your daily fat allowance
Medium regular Coke = 19% of your daily carb allowance
 
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Sure I am. I appreciate all your guys responses, they were very enlightening, especially Chillens. However, I'm asking about the diet pop because I AM GOING TO DRINK, I'm a college student, I live with 5 guys in a party house who all drink, 2 of which are kinesology majors (pretty ironic), but it's just how it's going to be. Two times a week, so yes I'm concerned more about what my chaser is than the vodka because it's going to happen... Kansas Univ is a big party school and I know that it is a bit ridiculous but hey, it's a reality.

OK, so then why do you need a chaser?

Time to grow up and be a man, take your drink neat :D
 
Your diet is about a hell of a lot more than calories, when I refered to McDonald's as 'a load of crap', calorie content didn't enter my mind.

If you justify what you consume by calorie counts then you need to take a long hard look at your diet (and get your blood pressure checked)

If you fancy looking at just numbers then what about this?
Big Mac + medium fries = 74% of your daily fat allowance
Medium regular Coke = 19% of your daily carb allowance


What about diet soda though? I carbonate my own water and drink 6 liters daily, but on the weekends, If I’m eating out, I’ll have a diet Coke or Pepsi. Is that a big deal?
 
What about diet soda though? I carbonate my own water and drink 6 liters daily, but on the weekends, If I’m eating out, I’ll have a diet Coke or Pepsi. Is that a big deal?

In one word: No.

However, why do you carbonate your water?

Peace


Chillen
 
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I just like the fizz on the tongue I guess, without it the water is just dull (to me). Weaned myself off Coke to Diet Coke to heavily flavored carbonated water to lightly flavored carbonated water to just pain carbonated water. I just prefer the carbonation. That’s not to say I don’t enjoy an ice cold glass of water without carbonation on occasion.
 
If you justify what you consume by calorie counts then you need to take a long hard look at your diet (and get your blood pressure checked)

My blood pressure is very good. I my sister is a nurse and I have it tested every week.
I only have fast food between 1 and 4 times a month.
I'm just saying... if you are going to eat crap, no point in drinking extra sugar.
 
My blood pressure is very good. I my sister is a nurse and I have it tested every week.
I only have fast food between 1 and 4 times a month.
I'm just saying... if you are going to eat crap, no point in drinking extra sugar.

I justify what I eat partially by calorie allotment and specific goal position, and rock-out in earning my goal plans. It is a very important consideration.

Additionally, dependent on dietary perimeters applicable to ones goal position (and physiological complications, Insulin resistance/Insulin Sensitivity, and the alike), cutting out some sugars (or other carbohydrates) is a very good thing to do, dependent on the persons goal.

Throughout my fitness and personal goal desires, I have consumed Crystal Lite (which shares a type of relationship with ingredients in diet soda, though its not carbonated water; its more flavored water). I am doing just fine.

For example, if I set calorie and macro nutrient perimeters (when BF is low), stabilizing my insulin is an important consideration (to a degree), and sugary drinks simply "do not fit", while drinks like Crystal Lite, do (for me), when water gets too bland tasting after awhile. In contrast, if I am (or if one is) post glucose depletion, and the body is primed for carbohydrate super-compensation, than sugary based foods can be less of a problem than the norm.

Peace and success, Elan


Best wishes,

Chillen
 
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