Please help! Midsection Issues.

[Avocado]

Grains actually lose most of their vitamins and minerals when they are processed (the nutrients are in the germ of the grain with is discarded) so I would suggests they are poor source of B vitamins and minerals such as magnesium.

So don't eat processed grains, eat them whole instead.

Low carb works for some, and not for others. I don't want to argue the health merits of either (that's been done a thousand times before here and elsewhere) but for those who can't/don't want to/don't believe in low carbing, can we agree that eating the grain as close to its natural state is the best option?

Take a food like pearled barley: it has a glycemic load of 11-25 (depending what source you use) which puts it lower than most fruit, many vegetables and a lot of dairy products. (On some charts, it's lower than green beans, which it seems my low carbing friends eat by the truckload. ) Pearl barley is high in fiber, B vitamins, several minerals, and iron. How is this a bad food?

For a lot of people, it is more realistic to make better choices about the carbs they do eat than to eliminate them altogether. Certainly, a low carb lifestyle works really well for some people, but I think it's important to make a distinction between whole and refined grains when discussing dietary choices.

 

[weightloss98]

Well, thanks alot for the info guys. . . So going on what you've been sayin what alterations should I make to my diet.

Ps, In all honesty I'm not stressed. There are many aspects of my life which are fantastic (Relationship, friends, work etc) This is one small part of my life thats all. If I was stressed I'd have no problem saying.

 

[Peakxvfitness]

Interesting debate, but we will agree to disagree on this. Your science and argument are poor, you provide no references. My original point was you lose weight by eating a lower carb diet with meat, fish, poultry, seafood, fruit and veg (and I also mean to include nuts, seeds, beans and legumes – although technically they are separate food groups). As you like science you will know there are roughly 50 nutrients that are essential for life including essential fats, amino acids, vitamins, mineral and water – you can get all of these nutrients from the foods I have mentioned, you don’t NEED grains, if you chose to eat them – so be it.

Obviously B12 is from animal products, but fruits and vegetables as well as nuts and seeds quite clearly do provide B vitamins as well as other vitamins and minerals. This is from McCance and Widdowson’s – The Composition of Food in case you would like to look it up.

Oats and brown rice are good sources of soluble fibre but so are apples, plums, tangerine, broccoli, carrots, peas, potato, and courgette. Plus I did suggest combining this with beans, nuts and seeds such as flax seeds, which are all great sources of soluble fibre. There is not much between a g of soluble fibre in grains and fruit and vegetables.

J. W. Anderson and S. R. Bridges (1988) Dietary fiber content of selected foods. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol 47, 440-447. You should look it up.

These are just 2 of many references.

It’s alarming that you’re not open to social proof and clinical experience. You can’t just rely on research papers. Research can be biased and needs to be interpreted carefully. Plus you have to be able to apply the science – there is no better proof than applying science to improve your client’s body shape and improve their health.

 

[Peakxvfitness]

So don't eat processed grains, eat them whole instead.

Low carb works for some, and not for others. I don't want to argue the health merits of either (that's been done a thousand times before here and elsewhere) but for those who can't/don't want to/don't believe in low carbing, can we agree that eating the grain as close to its natural state is the best option?

Take a food like pearled barley: it has a glycemic load of 11-25 (depending what source you use) which puts it lower than most fruit, many vegetables and a lot of dairy products. (On some charts, it's lower than green beans, which it seems my low carbing friends eat by the truckload. ) Pearl barley is high in fiber, B vitamins, several minerals, and iron. How is this a bad food?

For a lot of people, it is more realistic to make better choices about the carbs they do eat than to eliminate them altogether. Certainly, a low carb lifestyle works really well for some people, but I think it's important to make a distinction between whole and refined grains when discussing dietary choices.

I believe low carbs works for everyone – I don’t mean you have to eat an Atkins diet, just eat les carbs, especially starchy carbs. Research shows that by lowering carb content from 60% to 40% improves weight loss – this isn’t a “low carb diet”, it’s just lower carbs. This is what I was suggesting the to person who initiated this thread.

Pearl barley is processed to remove the hull and bran before it can be eaten, this isn’t a whole grain. If pearl barley is 11-25 on the GL scale, this is moderate to high GL, except for bananas, raisins, dates and papaya - fruits are low GL (below 10), except for parsnips, potato and sweet potato vegetables are below 10 on the GL. Except for quinoa, oats and whole meal pasta – grains are moderate to high GL. For the vast majority of the time I would not eat nor recommend foods that are moderate to high on the GL scale, this will cause poor insulin and blood glucose regulation and weight gain. Kellogg’s corn flakes have fibre, vitamins, minerals and iron – I wouldn’t eat them. Grains are not the best source of fibre – fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds and beans are.

I don’t mean to say pearl barley for example is bad for you (even though it contains gluten and this can cause problems for many people), you just don’t NEED it in your diet. If you chose to eat it, fine.

I agree it is sensible to make better choices about the carbs you eat and this is why I get my clients to eat better carb choices such as fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, beans, legumes and minimal whole grains – as you say.

 

[mubi]

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Right where do I start. I'm 27, 5 foot 9 inches and 12 stone (76 kg). I live a very active life, I exercise 4 - 5 times a week (cardio mainly but in the last 6 weeks started resistence training again).

I've been up and down in weight since I was 20. Up as high as 13 stone 8 pounds (86kg) and down as low as 11 stone 9 pounds. Its important to note that I've spent most of the last seven years at just under 13 stone so being this weight I know I've kinda got my weight under control.

I've stayed around 12 stone for most of this year with constant training and dieting.

This is my issue, my whole body is lean apart from my midsection (stomach and lower back). It's not like I'm carrying a little fat either its alot (sticks out a fair deal). Nothing I do affects it at all it seams.

My diet is as follows:-

Mon - Fri I eat virtually the same thing.

Breakfast - Oats (with water)
10:30 - snak bar (special K, Nutragrain etc)
12;30 - Brown rice / cous cous with chicken / prawns - peppers - onion etc
3:30 - snack bar
evening - time varys due to work training etc same as lunch.

Weekends I'll be honest I drink and for one day I'll eat what I want!

I mean I've got to have a life to you know.

I used to eat lots of bread, pasta, white rice this has been cut out from the start of the year.

Now don't get me wrong I'm down to 12 stone and maintaining it but my stomach is still the same. Arghhh

Any advice?

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