Oblivion's Log

Well, when eating 6-8 meals a day, snacks are often included as meals, but they still have to have protein in every "meal". Breakfast and PWO meals should be your largest calorie intakes, and the rest of the meals should be pretty even with one another.
 
Oblivion02 said:
Im usign the diet I found, but i find it rather hard to have 8 meals a day. So I was wondering, what if i just eat a big breakfast, decent lunch, decent dinner. And some healthy protein-full snacks in between? PLease help me out.
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Is it hard because of the amount of food or the timing of the meals?
 
Im thinking:
Breakfast(Big in carbs and protein) + Protein Shake
Snack#1(Carb and Protein)
Lunch(Carb and Protein) + Protein Shake
(Workout)
Postworkout(Carbs and Protein)
Snack #2: Protein Shake
Dinner(Protein and Carbs)
Snack #3: Protein Shake + Glass of milk (Before bed)

How's that sound? Please help me design a proper bulking diet. Should I instead of just eatin protein and carbs in every meal maybe eat some veggies or something? Please help me out here. Thanks in advance guys!
 
Oblivion02 said:
Im thinking:
Breakfast(Big in carbs and protein) + Protein Shake
Snack#1(Carb and Protein)
Lunch(Carb and Protein) + Protein Shake
(Workout)
Postworkout(Carbs and Protein)
Snack #2: Protein Shake
Dinner(Protein and Carbs)
Snack #3: Protein Shake + Glass of milk (Before bed)

How's that sound? Please help me design a proper bulking diet. Should I instead of just eatin protein and carbs in every meal maybe eat some veggies or something? Please help me out here. Thanks in advance guys!
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Where are your EFA's and other fats?
 
Amount of food not that much, but mainly the timing. Check out the new draft of the diet... tell me what you think. Thanks in advance!
 
I usually get some fats with my lunch and dinner... I also munch on peanuts (Protein + Fat). So... Could someone review and correct my diet plan? Thanks in advance!
 
New diet plan: (Suggested by Malkore)
Breakfast: Eggs - lots of egg whites and a couple yolks for fat.
Snack#1:Fat (like nuts) and Protein (a shake, or lean meat)
Lunch:Complex Carb, veggies and Lean protein (not a shake)
(Workout)
Postworkout:Sugar Carbs and Protein shake
Snack #2: Lean whole protein, complex carbs
Dinner:Lean whole Protein and veggies, lots of veggies
Snack #3: cottage cheese + Glass of skim milk

It includes more EFAs :) Opinions? What do you guys think of carbs for breakfast? I love eating oatmeal and sandwiches in the morning... Also, will this diet work for CLEAN BULKING? Avoiding fat gain as much as posible? because im chubby as it is (not fat, but chubby) and I dont want to get FAT... or fatER! So... Opnions pleasE?
 
Currently, what im doing is using this diet:
A typical weight training day should look like, and I will use a 5 p.m. workout time as an example:
Meal #1- Protein+Carbs (Oatmeal + Raisins)
Snack #1- Protein+Carbs (Sandwich)
Snack#2- Protein+Fats (Peunuts)
Meal #2- Protein+Carbs + Protein Shake (BEFORE WORKOUT)
Train(30mins - 1hr later)
PostWorkout -> Protein+Carbs(Protein Shake and some raisins)
Post-PostWorkout -> Protein+Carbs(Rice, Beans, Meat)
Dinner -> Protein + Fat(Usually some tuna salad)
Pre-bed -> Protein Shake

I've been doing this diet this week, at the end of this week, I will measure myself, and if all i notice is gains in my waist, im going to stop doing this diet. I'd like opinions on this diet, opinions on the one Malkore Suggested also, and any other general suggestions, please post up!

*Note: I do my protein shakes with milk, so in the prebed meal, i am gettin casein.
 
Oblivion, I know you're trying to find the perfect diet, but it's not going to happen until you take it on a test run the diet. A lot of things look great on paper but don't always workout when we start putting it in our bodies.

The setup you have outlined needs some tweaking from my stand point-more fruits, more vegetables.

Also, look at some of your meals, like dinner-"usually some tuna salad" is prob very few calories (~200-300 kcals) and you'll need to bump it by a bit.

Don't get discouraged if you put some fat on; a clean bulk is one thing but expecting to put no size on in the midsection while trying to bulk is a setup that will always fail in the expectations of a trainee.

Sooo...my thoughts-more fruit, more vegetables...these should give you the extra calories you need. In two weeks, if you haven't gained any weight...time to bump up the kcals.
 
personaly I'd stop worrying about putting on weight and add some more fruit and vegg and some more carbs and protien. Then if you feel your putting on too much fat, just take a few weeks to add a bit more cardio and let off on a few calories.

But as Evo said - try it out and see what you think.
 
Yeah I'd love to eat more fruits and veggies and i love rice... but since the diet says I cant have much carbs I was laying off... and on NON TRAINING DAYS i can only have carbs at breakfast and on my second meal. Could someone help me with the tweaking it part? I'd like more fruits and more carbs... But at what time? What meals? Help plz?
 
Carbs are really quite important. I don't know about why the 'diet' is saying you cannot have many. When I bulk I eat a ratio of 30/40/30 (protein/carbs/fat).. As the day goes on I lower carb intake and raise fat intake (to slow protein digestion).. Protein remains strong throughout with the biggest hit post workout. Guidlines vary from diet to diet (ratios, timing etc..) But the fact of the matter is, your body does need carbs for growth, energy, proper bodily function etc..
Another thing to look for is to ensure that you are getting at least 25 grams of fiber each day. Fiber keeps you regular which is very important when you are eating a caloric surplus.
 
My arms got to 14 inches, from 13.5... and my waist is still 38... Sounds good? :D

Im going to continue my current diet, but if I see its not working i'll switch it up... Also, ignoring my dietary guidelines, i've added more fruits and veggies to the diet. I love grapes, prunes, bananas, straweberries, etc. So I've added some fruits around the day, but not TOO many... :) Probably some raisins in the morning with my breakfast(oats or cereal), and I eat a banana at lunch or I blen a banana into a smoothie with my protein as a protein shake (PW), or just eat a banana sometime during the day. I noticed I feel way more engergetic during the day, specially after my breakfast... It really boosts me up... And wow... My friday workout was a killer... 2 sets, but 15 reps... Im still feeling the burn! :D I loved it, my quads are still burnin! Tomorow I begin Week #2... I'll keep ya updated! ;)
 
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Its amazing the effects of a good breakfast, yet many still think that they are not "breakfast people." Good job on the progress so far, stay motivated and you'll get there.
 
I also bought a cereal called Smart Start: Healthy Heart. Has plenty of carbs, has a decent amount of protein, and is quite tasty... If anyone could check it out and tell me what they think? I also add raisins to the cereal for even more carbs and fibers ;)
 
What im doing for my non workout days is just eatin healthy, but not a specific meal plan, and doing some light cardio and abs... Does this sound good?
 
Well week #2 has passed... on Friday, i reached failure when i only needed 2 reps more... :( But i rested a few seconds and did the reps anyway. I've come to realize that Fridays I cant push up my max weight because its 15 REPS! Which is alot... Today saturday, woke up, ate a bit of oatmeal with protein powder, but im soo sick of the protein powder's flavor(since that one day i tried it with water and almost puked) that I cant eat it completely... Im going to just make tons of protein bars with that powder and buy a new one. Well, I'll catch up with you guys later! Bye
 
Week #3 is done... All good, im doing less weight on Fridays since its 15 reps... When its many reps what I do is i lower a bit the weight... But its all good... Lets see how week #4 goes :)
 
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