Mindful Eating

Jericho said:
Are the people you are treating 1000 pounds cause if not, you are risking their lives. Medical professionals agree that for safe weight loss, it is 1% of your body weight a week. I'm 360 and to lose 10 pounds in a week would be damn harmful. Of COURSE people put weight back on because when they leave your boot camp stuff, they go back to eating even at a normal level and gain weight.

I know you are being helpful and some of what you say is good stuff...I am leery of anyone who either 1) claims such weight loss success and 2) actually promotes it as a good thing.
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To lose 10lbs of fat is not harmful but to lose 10lbs of muscle in a week is harmful. For someone that is over weight 10lbs is a relatively easy amount of weight to lose, through eating healthily and doing some exercise. A 10 lbs pound weight loss is a good amount to kick start and motivate someone to carry on losing weight. I am not claiming that you could lose 10lbs every week as that is just not possible.

Equally if someone is under medical supervision our programme is not suitable....we do not claim to be a medical centre. We will not accept anyone on the programme who is underweight (on the BMI scale) nor anyone who is under medical supervision.

1-2lbs a week is absolutely the right amount of weight to be losing over the long term and is a healthy and sustainable amount of weight to lose in a week. In a controlled programme with lots of exercise that amount can easily be healthily exceeded to at least 10lbs a week.

Following stomach surgery people lose huge amounts of weight every week and that is applauded and encouraged by the doctors. We achieve the same results without the operation.
 
shygemini said:
And how do you ensure which you are losing? If you are losing 10lbs a week, I am quite sure that most of it is muscle.
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What makes you quite sure ? What qualifications do you have to make that statement?

In order to maintain muscle mass our programme uses large amounts of natural sources of protein (and no we do not cut out carbs) also a high level of weight building exercises (ie weight training).

This way the body does not cannibalise its own muscle store to provide the energy it needs - it uses the fat stores. We test this through impedance testing - all our clients lose weight and gain muscle mass.

With proper nutrition and exercise advice you can indeed lose fat and gain muscle whilst losing weight overall. So you are quite wrong.
 
NuBeginnings France does not have nursing or medical staff. We are a holistic practice where the programme is centred around each guest and giving you the skills and knowledge to lead a healthy life. If you are unsure whether the programme is right for you please contact us and one of our advisors will be happy to talk to you.
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what makes YOU qualified? Sorry but if the medical community agrees that 1% of your body weight is safe and you are pushing for an average of 10 to 19 pounds then I'm more likely to believe the qualified people.
 
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Jericho said:
what makes YOU qualified? Sorry but if the medical community agrees that 1% of your body weight is safe and you are pushing for an average of 10 to 19 pounds then I'm more likely to believe the qualified people.
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The medical community do not espouse that the ONLY way to lose weight safely and sensibly is to do it at 1lb a week. It is Drs who perform stomach surgeries to allow their patients to lose huge amounts of weight fast. It is also doctors who support some VLCD (very low calorie diets).

If you re-read what I wrote I said myself that 1-2lbs a week is the safe and sustainable weight loss amount however it can be boosted to start or through the process by taking part in a well formed programme. The article you posted from the Mayo clinic supports exactly what I said.

If you wish to hide behind the excuse that the only safe thing to do is lose 1 lb a week then please do so. It seems very disingenuous to try and dissuade others from changing their lifestyle and making some serious losses just because you don't like the idea.

You are more than welcome to disregard what I say and what I think. However to decide I am not qualified to have an opinion rather defies the point of a forum.
 
NuBeginnings said:
What makes you quite sure ? What qualifications do you have to make that statement?

In order to maintain muscle mass our programme uses large amounts of natural sources of protein (and no we do not cut out carbs) also a high level of weight building exercises (ie weight training).

This way the body does not cannibalise its own muscle store to provide the energy it needs - it uses the fat stores. We test this through impedance testing - all our clients lose weight and gain muscle mass.

With proper nutrition and exercise advice you can indeed lose fat and gain muscle whilst losing weight overall. So you are quite wrong.
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Large amounts of protein will be converted to fat. Once all the protein you need to maintain muscle stores is used up, the rest gets made into fat. Quite simply, if you are consuming more protein than required, and (as you say) not cutting out carbs, you are bound to be consuming calories at an excess of that required, and will not be losing weight.
 
Ok, if I am wrong, I'll freely admit it but I would like you to tell everyone exactly what you and your center does. Don't be vague, be very detailed. I have a report from someone who was there (credibility is always questionable on the internet) so the scene painted is pretty much a boot camp like the biggest loser except without medical staff.

I'm stepping back. Going to listen with an open mind.
 
Jericho said:
Ok, if I am wrong, I'll freely admit it but I would like you to tell everyone exactly what you and your center does. Don't be vague, be very detailed. I have a report from someone who was there (credibility is always questionable on the internet) so the scene painted is pretty much a boot camp like the biggest loser except without medical staff.

I'm stepping back. Going to listen with an open mind.
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shygemini said:
Large amounts of protein will be converted to fat. Once all the protein you need to maintain muscle stores is used up, the rest gets made into fat. Quite simply, if you are consuming more protein than required, and (as you say) not cutting out carbs, you are bound to be consuming calories at an excess of that required, and will not be losing weight.
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You are absolutely correct that if you eat to much of anything you will gain weight - that's a fact. It's a balance and that balance is worked out by a team of nutritionists. The correct amount of calorie intake verses a defined amount of exercise will equal weight loss. What those calories are made up of makes a big difference.

We are a boutique boot camp, we are not militaristic in the slightest. People come to stay with us because they want to change. We help them make that change in a number of ways. Healthy eating, exercise, hypnosis, NLP and psychotherapy the latter 3 help people to address their issues with food (if they have any).

When a client leaves us, thats not the end of it. We monitor their progress for up to six months. We call them every week (after they have left our centre) for two months to make sure they are doing well and are happy and we generally help keep them motivated.
I will not post a direct link on this page, but feel free to google us or look on trip advisor. We have appeared in many magazines and had a number of celebs stay with us.

We are very passionate about what we do and I would be delighted to answer any questions you have. MOD EDIT: You were warned about this once already. We certainly do not pretend to be all things to all people. We are not right for everyone and we do not accept everyone onto our programme. If we do not believe we will change your life we will not accept you into our programme. We certainly don't want to waste your money and our time.

Just to really ram that point home we offer a 100% money back guarantee to every guest who comes to stay with us. No questions, no quibbles. If for ANY reason someone doesn't want to stay we give them all their money back. No problems.
 
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NuBeginnings said:
You are more than welcome to disregard what I say and what I think. However to decide I am not qualified to have an opinion rather defies the point of a forum.
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How does you being unqualified or not have anything to do with the point of a forum?

Get back to me in a week, when you return from your ban. Because, people who get banned obviously know what the point of a forum is, so I'm definitely going to take whatever you say as the unarguable truth :rolls eyes:
 
losing 10lbs in A week, would not be that bad if you are severely overweight, ... losing 10lbs / week constantly, however, would be unhealthy. That would be too much weight loss for most bodies to handle safely.
 
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