Marijuana and exercise

[limestix]

It's legal as use for treatment of asthma in Canada, and many states in the US although I can't find a link to a government list of what can be treated with it. Probably because the government doesn't want people looking at this list to find something they have that's treatable.

I found some unofficial sources, just citing newspapers or whatever, heres one:


I don't feel like looking all too hard. But essentially THC is a bronchial dilator; it opens up the pathways to the lungs allowing you to breathe much better, which is why I smoke before I run

Obviously It won't help you in an asthma attack, but for treating chronic asthma, it works great

here is a study

 

[Backspace]

I don't feel like looking all too hard. But essentially THC is a bronchial dilator; it opens up the pathways to the lungs allowing you to breathe much better, which is why I smoke before I run

Hey

The bronchial close down after the intial affects. Like a suguar hi, it only last a small amount of time. They close down worse.

 

[limestix]

The bronchial close down after the intial affects. Like a suguar hi, it only last a small amount of time. They close down worse.

Care to back that up with anything? haha. I highly doubt that they close worse, I for one, have never experience anything like that, EVER. All it does is relax smooth muscles. It won't cause them to suddenly tense worse than ever before after the THC is metabolized. Have you ever smoked pot? I've never been anything but relaxed, tired and very very loose after it wears off, not tense and tight like you suggest.

And anyway the 'initial effects' last at least an hour, so no real worries there for running.

 

[Guitarded]

In what country is this legal? In what country is this actually considered to be a valid treatment?

Academic source(s) please

Marijuana is legal in the USA for treatment to Glaucoma.

Look it up.

 

[limestix]

Marijuana is legal in the USA for treatment to Glaucoma.

Look it up.

It's legal for much much more than that :xmas:

 

[Backspace]

Backspace, you are incorrect that my statement is incorrect.

From you site.

"Human marijuana research is limited, and the retrospective nature of these studies compromise their interpretation. Nevertheless, marijuana usage disrupts short-term memory, working memory, and attentional skills (Fletcher et al., 1996), and induces deficits in mathematical skills, verbal expression, and memory retrieval (Block and Ghoneim, 1993). Long-lasting cannabis-dependent short-term memory deficits (Schwartz et al., 1989) and residual neuropsychological effects (Pope and Yurgelun-Todd, 1996) persist even after abstinence. "

I Agree with you that it is defined as a Neurotoxin.

In saying that, your attitude towards the drug seems to be very extreme. It is a damaging drug. Smoking it everyday can led to serious long term problems.

But having a puff now and again is not going to make you a crack addict. To the person who started this thread, smoking every day is bad, drugs are bad, mmmmk?

 

[Backspace]

Care to back that up with anything? haha. I highly doubt that they close worse, I for one, have never experience anything like that, EVER. All it does is relax smooth muscles. It won't cause them to suddenly tense worse than ever before after the THC is metabolized. Have you ever smoked pot? I've never been anything but relaxed, tired and very very loose after it wears off, not tense and tight like you suggest.

And anyway the 'initial effects' last at least an hour, so no real worries there for running.

From personal experience, I was addicted to it for 8 years, smoking two to three times a day. When I was really sick from the flu, I would smoke it to open them up and help me breath (I also used to have asthma, I personally think that smoking it to cure Asthma is bizarre), however after the initial effects I would have trouble breathing. My doctor at the time confirmed this at the time.

I have not mentioned how it will effect muscles, I would have to agree, it is a great way to relive sore muscles and fully support the use of it as a medical treatment and occasionally pass time. I just wanted to share my experience with the functions of my broncili closing down more after an initial expansion.

But yes, if the initial effects last one hour then go for it, but when I smoke, the last thing I want to do is go running. Running and exercise are my way separating that aspect of my previous life. By all means keep doing it, I was just pointing out what I know.

 

[tcajim]

MJ is addictive, for one jman. If you have to ask if it is detrimental to exercising - then you already know the answer! ...ummm YES.

Three, and this is a rebuttal to the post by LEI yun fat, or whomever - but the big 'experiment' of sex before athletics/training, etc., has been proven to HELP with athletic performance... four hours after sex testosterone was higher than before sex according to Sport Science on FSN for a pro boxer... they actually took his blood to find that out.

Honestly, a stupid topic about the MJ thing tho... that's like asking if it is OK to drink alcohol every night and train? It's not a good thing.

 

[i_love_muscle]

It's legal as use for treatment of asthma in Canada, and many states in the US although I can't find a link to a government list of what can be treated with it. Probably because the government doesn't want people looking at this list to find something they have that's treatable.

I found some unofficial sources, just citing newspapers or whatever, heres one:


I don't feel like looking all too hard. But essentially THC is a bronchial dilator; it opens up the pathways to the lungs allowing you to breathe much better, which is why I smoke before I run

Obviously It won't help you in an asthma attack, but for treating chronic asthma, it works great

here is a study

Thanks!! You realize that for asthmatics, the THC would be in pill form

 

[LeiYunFat]

Three, and this is a rebuttal to the post by LEI yun fat, or whomever - but the big 'experiment' of sex before athletics/training, etc., has been proven to HELP with athletic performance... four hours after sex testosterone was higher than before sex according to Sport Science on FSN for a pro boxer... they actually took his blood to find that out.

Please. I saw that episode of sports science. It was hardly scientific. The guy knew beforehand what the experiment was going to be. And he was a proponent of sex making him perform better. Biased results are garbage. The results were inconclusive. More free test doesn't mean better fight performance. So my analogy was made to point out that:

1.) both are commonly asked questions
2.) both have not had great deals of scientific research in this context
3.) effects on training are more psychological and subjective

My analogies were not faulty and your rebuttal has failed. Please enjoy the rest of the thread where we discuss this topic, rather than reading the first two posts and trying to pick us apart.

 

[i_love_muscle]

Marijuana is legal in the USA for treatment to Glaucoma.

Look it up.

We weren't even talking about glaucoma. Please read the posts.

 

[limestix]

From personal experience, I was addicted to it for 8 years, smoking two to three times a day. When I was really sick from the flu, I would smoke it to open them up and help me breath (I also used to have asthma, I personally think that smoking it to cure Asthma is bizarre), however after the initial effects I would have trouble breathing. My doctor at the time confirmed this at the time.

If you think smoking while sick, especially with a cold or the flu is a good idea, that;s your own fault I guess It certainly does not prove that smoking would cause your bronchial tubes to close up after it's worn off, it proves that it caused your probably already irritated throat and respiratory tract to flare up.

But I love running with it. It helps me breathe better, helps me push myself more, and makes me more motivated. The great thing about the substance as it can do just about whatever you want it to. It effects everyone differently.

Thanks!! You realize that for asthmatics, the THC would be in pill form

or vaporized, or in edibles, of course.
Ifound it pretty shocking it was one of the medical uses.

 

[i_love_muscle]

or vaporized, or in edibles, of course.
Ifound it pretty shocking it was one of the medical uses.

Yeah, but after doing some research, the bronchodilation effects are very short lived. So standard drug treatment is still more effective

Although the side effects of one of my asthma medications (if I took just one dose too many for my system) was "cardiac arrest" and "death" (Advair). All sympathomimetic medications have similar warnings.

I hate reading the side effects ... the list is huge, and then I get to thinking "do I really want to take this sh!t? Is breathing really that important?"

 

[Backspace]

But I love running with it. It helps me breathe better, helps me push myself more, and makes me more motivated. The great thing about the substance as it can do just about whatever you want it to. It effects everyone differently.QUOTE]


That was a long time ago.

 

[tcajim]

Please. I saw that episode of sports science. It was hardly scientific. The guy knew beforehand what the experiment was going to be. And he was a proponent of sex making him perform better. Biased results are garbage. The results were inconclusive. More free test doesn't mean better fight performance. So my analogy was made to point out that:

1.) both are commonly asked questions
2.) both have not had great deals of scientific research in this context
3.) effects on training are more psychological and subjective

My analogies were not faulty and your rebuttal has failed. Please enjoy the rest of the thread where we discuss this topic, rather than reading the first two posts and trying to pick us apart.

Not trying to pick you apart, or anything like that. My rebuttal has not failed.

The show stated that there was more testosterone in his blood four hours after he had sex.

That was my point.

 

[luker459]

we have zero tolerance for crap like that and if anybody we hung out with brought out any MJ to a party, they'd be asked to leave immediately.

LOL. Get off your high horse. Would i be correct in assuming that alcohol is consumed at these parties? I wonder which drug would be deemed worse by healthcare workers who actually have to deal with the affects of each.

They are both drugs. Just because one is illegal doesn't mean it is necessarily worse.

Would you also kick anyone out if they brought cigarettes to a party?

 

[LeiYunFat]

"Smoke weed everyday"- Snoop Dogg
"Sweat daily"- FF

 

[Nihilarian]

I don't know about anyone else here, but when I started it was extremely easy to give up, nowadays it seems more of a fashion icon to smoke MJ. I want my quick reflexes and fertility in mint condition too, hehe

 

[bsturk]

Marijuana is legal on a state level for medicinal purposes in 13 of the 50 United States for all of you who keep saying that it is illegal. 'I love muscle', you are a typical mis-informed citizen of our great country. Understand that there are many politicians, companies, and people that benefit from the negative stigma associated with marijuana. Knowing this should cause you to question any information regarding its use. I encourage you to educate yourself on the real facts & myths concerning the use of marijuana. Since I am a new member to this forum it will not let me post urls but google "drug policy marijuana myths" and you should find the site that I wanted to refer you to as one of the first results. Drug policy dot com.

I am also very concerned with treating my body as a temple and not trashing it but I have found that the benefits of marijuana are greater then the disadvantages. The smoking of anything can be extremely harmful to your lungs, of course, but smoking is not the only way to take advantage of the effects of marijuana. Baking with marijuana or using a vaporizer are healthier alternatives that are just as effective if not more.



To answer your question Guitarded,
I have seen no negative effects as far as muscle growth or fitness progress in my experience with smoking marijuana and following a fairly strict workout schedule. As long as you keep up your motivation and continue to push yourself I don't believe marijuana will have any adverse effect.

 

[Kraken]

I like to take bong rips before I work out.