Man Titties/Fat into muscle

Why do you need a trainer?
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/seconded

The only real reason (aside from a source of motivation) to hire a trainer is if you don't know what you are doing. If you are already accustomed to the gym (i.e. you can tell the weight trees from the squat racks), there is very little that they can teach you that you couldn't get for free. If you are desperate to try out some new exercises, you can go up and ask any of the trainers standing around at the gym about 'em for FREE!!!

Funny thing about male trainers is that they are straight meat heads 99% of the time, and there is nothing that meat heads love talking about more than weight lifting. So, next time you have a question about the specifics of a lift, leave your wallet at home and just chat with chet.

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Back to the idea of fixing your man-boobs. All estrogen-testosterone talks aside, and keeping in mind that spot-diminishing is a myth (as people have already said), I have had the best results (both in myself and others) with shaping up a man's pecs when I vary the hell out of the pec workout. If you are super serious about blowing up your pecs, dedicate some real time to them in your routine.

Don't just flat bench with a bar and call it a day. Incline / Decline bench are great ways of hitting your pec. If you are just starting out with those exercises, use machines first (Smith / Hammer Strength machines are GREAT for those lifts if your gym has 'em).

Don't just use dumbbells for butterfly pecs. Go to the crossover cable machine and set 'em up like you see "sven the 'roider" doing. Obviously, start at a weight that you can finish 2 sets of at least 10. Vary where the cables are at, too. Don't always keep 'em high or at shoulder level.

Don't just do regular pushups. Kick your heels up on a bench. Do slow-motion pushups (count 8 mississippi on your way down and 4 on your way up).

Your pecs are huge muscles, and you can pack muscle on 'em pretty easily if you make sure to dedicate time to them.

Even if you still can't get rid of your man made mammoths through diet and exercise, if you build your pecs up they don't look near as bad. Plus, after you make your sweaterpuppets meat-filled, if you take a little time and learn to flex 'em individually, that is a trick that will drive the ladies nuts.

Good luck, man
 
PigtoBig said:
/seconded

The only real reason (aside from a source of motivation) to hire a trainer is if you don't know what you are doing. If you are already accustomed to the gym (i.e. you can tell the weight trees from the squat racks), there is very little that they can teach you that you couldn't get for free. If you are desperate to try out some new exercises, you can go up and ask any of the trainers standing around at the gym about 'em for FREE!!!

Funny thing about male trainers is that they are straight meat heads 99% of the time, and there is nothing that meat heads love talking about more than weight lifting. So, next time you have a question about the specifics of a lift, leave your wallet at home and just chat with chet.

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Back to the idea of fixing your man-boobs. All estrogen-testosterone talks aside, and keeping in mind that spot-diminishing is a myth (as people have already said), I have had the best results (both in myself and others) with shaping up a man's pecs when I vary the hell out of the pec workout. If you are super serious about blowing up your pecs, dedicate some real time to them in your routine.

Don't just flat bench with a bar and call it a day. Incline / Decline bench are great ways of hitting your pec. If you are just starting out with those exercises, use machines first (Smith / Hammer Strength machines are GREAT for those lifts if your gym has 'em).

Don't just use dumbbells for butterfly pecs. Go to the crossover cable machine and set 'em up like you see "sven the 'roider" doing. Obviously, start at a weight that you can finish 2 sets of at least 10. Vary where the cables are at, too. Don't always keep 'em high or at shoulder level.

Don't just do regular pushups. Kick your heels up on a bench. Do slow-motion pushups (count 8 mississippi on your way down and 4 on your way up).

Your pecs are huge muscles, and you can pack muscle on 'em pretty easily if you make sure to dedicate time to them.

Even if you still can't get rid of your man made mammoths through diet and exercise, if you build your pecs up they don't look near as bad. Plus, after you make your sweaterpuppets meat-filled, if you take a little time and learn to flex 'em individually, that is a trick that will drive the ladies nuts.

Good luck, man
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trainers with the proper knowledge help you keep the proper form and structure which most lack.

i see tons of guys in the gym that act like they know what their doing, but they have no clue and do crazy weird workouts
 
trainers with the proper knowledge help you keep the proper form and structure which most lack.

i see tons of guys in the gym that act like they know what their doing, but they have no clue and do crazy weird workouts
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While I agree that there are lots of people that hit the gyms that have no idea what they are doing, I see no advantage to keep paying a trainer whatever ridiculous price they are charging at the moment once you have learned your form, when you could just walk up to them and ask them for free. After a certain point, they just become a paid spotter. All of that, in effect, was just agreeing with steve. I've known people to blow money on a training session when they could have just talked to the person to achieve the same effect, so I was trying to save this fella some cash by pointing out that if he has questions that trainers in general are nice enough guys to just chat with.

And to tell you the truth, working in a gym is so incredibly boring that they will most likely welcome the contact, and meet whatever your needs are with enthusiasm.
 
The problem I see is 2 fold.

1) Most trainers wouldn't know proper form if it smacked them upside the head.

2) A good trainer will go well beyond teaching you proper form. A good trainer will 'read' your current status and adjust your workout accordingly. Unfortunately, most are simply 'clip board readers' following some prepackaged body part split program and no nothing better. They know nothing about the adaptive responses our bodies undergo wrt to training stress.
 
i trust those that i respect, and see as a knowledgeable person

just start weight training, and work out your chest with heavier weights to build up your muscles to be large.
 
Continuing this side convo about trainers......

If you don't know anything yourself, it's hard to put a metric on knowledge or competence of a trainer. You could certainly let results speak for themselves.

Or you can look at some of the programming and coaching he/she does/uses and bring it to a place such as this and see how it stacks up to facts, empirical evidence, and science.
 
myth= you cannot turn fat into muscle. This is a common misconseption. building your chest muscles will tighten your chest area. But only losing wieght can remove fat. I agree with these guys that trainers are unneccessary. there are plenty of site on the internet that can give you information on routines and different workouts to build different parts of your body. I myself have even visited YouTube to get new workout ideas. It is very important to change your workout rountines every 3 weeks or so. I myself have man boobs. lol. i've lost 65 lbs in the last 2 years and they are much smaller now. I was 295 and am now 230. Be sure to work all parts of the pec. I usually do an incline and decline bench along with the standard bench to work the top and bottom of the pec. Make sure that the bench is the first workout you do when you get to the gym. Making it top priority will give you maximum results.
 
Nobody needs trainers.

Some trainers can make a world of difference though.

And why do you need to change your workout every 3 weeks? Why is this "very important"?
 
Your muscle get used to certain exercises. some exercise will get to seem easier. Changing your workout will challenge those muscles. I'm not talking about changing your entire workout but changing it slightly even will keep those muscles challenged. For example: Every 3 weeks my bench routine changes from using an olympic bar to dumbells. My workouts are very intense so many other people may not change there workout for up to 8 weeks, but i do recommend it.
 
I don't think you realize that blanket advice like that doesn't work in the face of a wide spectrum of people. Some people can ride out the same program for months or even a year without changing. It all depends on training age, genetics, recoverability, etc.

I'd consider myself an advanced trainee and I still continue to use programs for months on end.
 
well you obviously agree that at some point you need to change your workout. I admit i'm not a so called expert. All i can say that i have heard from many people that changing your workout every 3-4 weeks or every 4-8 weeks is a good idea and it deffinately works for me. there are alot of expert out there that say alot of different things. you are right to say that everyones body is different and it may not be neccessary to change it that often. This is mearly advice, something to tryout and see if it works for you. Changing your workout every 3 weeks deffinately is not going to hurt.
 
Hurt?

No.

Hinder progress?

Certainly in some cases.

That's my point.

Changing stuff up for the sake of changing things with no real, solid metric to call for said change is silly in my opinion.
 
i do not change for the sake of changing. I have seen real advancement from changing up my routine every 3 weeks. solid metric. Like i said earlier, this may not work for everyone but eventually you do have to change your workout. Any expert will agree
 
When did anyone say you never have to change your workout?

You make progress doing anything consistently and progressively.

I'm all about optimal progress. Progress is fine, certainly. And if you enjoy what you're doing, that's great. But you have to be careful when you're hand out blanket advice.

You should switch your routine when it is optimal for your body.
 
well maybe i'm wrong. you seem to know everything. But most people don't know when it's time for them to change there workout routine and will slow there results. merely trying to give some informative advise. as far as my "blanketed advise" i don't know this kids body and neither do you. He needs to figure out what works for him. Maybe it was my bad assuming.
 
FEELthePUMP said:
well maybe i'm wrong.
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No, I wouldn't say you're wrong. You're simply don't have the experience to 'see the big picture' is all.

You've been successful yourself, and I'm happy for ya.

But you haven't physically trained a wide array of people to understand how various body adapt in response to training.

I'm simply expounding on your point so we can collectively express the most solid information possible for the benefit of the forum. It's not about me vs. you and if you can't see it in that light, I don't think you're going to like this forum very much.

you seem to know everything.
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See above.

Stop trying to make this a personal thing.

It's not.

And that's fallacious.

But most people don't know when it's time for them to change there workout routine and will slow there results.
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If "most people" read the stickies they'd have a much better clue.

Also, so b/c they don't you're suggesting they change for the sake of change when if you understood the adaptive responses in various population, I don't think you'd be making that recommendation. But you're refusing to let go of your preconvieved notions based on your "n=1" experiment so there's not much I can do at this point.

People can read and take what they want from this little discussion. If they choose to listen to you, that's fine. It's not going to kill them or harm them so we really need not spend more time saying the same things over and over.

merely trying to give some informative advise.
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I understand what you're trying to do.

When "informative advice" is handed out to people who know no better and someone with a little more experience than the advisor disagrees or has more to add, he or she is probably going to do so... especially given the means of communication we're using right now.

You're seeing this as an attack on you.

I'm seeing this as progress for better information on the forum.

as far as my "blanketed advise" i don't know this kids body and neither do you.
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This actually shows your ignorance on the subject to be honest. For starters, the OP started this thread more than a year ago. Be that as it may, he explained that he is just starting to get into weight training.

Therefor, he is a novice.

A novice, generally, is the last person who needs to be switching things up every 3 weeks.

He needs to figure out what works for him. Maybe it was my bad assuming.
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Maybe.
 
well i agree with just about everything you jsut said. As far it being a personal attack i feel it was and still is. You say it wasn't but then you come back and call me ingnorant. HAHA. Well i for one have had enough. Lets leave it at that. i think we both have better things to do.
 
LOL. wanna know somethin really funny. you probably know this already. But i got that from an Arnold Schwarzenegger video i was watchin on YouTUbe. lol. I thought it was funny so i used it.
 
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