You are on a roll of excellent posts today.
Here is a hug
Now, I dont want some strange man calling and threatening me (Your hubby)
Just kidding.
Best wishes,
Chillen
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You are on a roll of excellent posts today.
Here is a hug
Now, I dont want some strange man calling and threatening me (Your hubby)
Just kidding.
Best wishes,
Chillen
LOL, no promises..... 
Thanks Chillen, I'm just trying to help
I think the mods here are trying to accommodate the members best they can, the suggestions are reasonable but, as in all cases, it takes a bit of consideration regarding how the overall effects of a suggestion will have on the forum, it's members, and the new members that the forum has/will attract(ed).
Often it is how the suggestion is executed that will make the difference, and if it will be beneficial to cohesiveness of the forums community that needs to be scrutinized. The more member "friendly" a place can be, without anarchy the more people will enjoy being a part of it and feeling comfortable in the community.
Cheers,
Diane
You are on a roll of excellent posts today.
Here is a hug
Now, I dont want some strange man calling and threatening me (Your hubby)
Just kidding.
Best wishes,
Chillen
Thanks Chillen, I'm just trying to help
I think the mods here are trying to accommodate the members best they can, the suggestions are reasonable but, as in all cases, it takes a bit of consideration regarding how the overall effects of a suggestion will have on the forum, it's members, and the new members that the forum has/will attract(ed).
Often it is how the suggestion is executed that will make the difference, and if it will be beneficial to cohesiveness of the forums community that needs to be scrutinized. The more member "friendly" a place can be, without anarchy the more people will enjoy being a part of it and feeling comfortable in the community.
Cheers,
Diane
Notwithstanding any other issues members have with the actual content of any of Gas's posts, given Evo's post suggesting that there is no hard evidence - such as a common IP address - by which to accuse Gas of actually being a former member then perhaps these ( as yet ) specific unfounded allegations being leveled toward Gas should come to an end.
Okay, I rest my case. I'm sorry. My point is, whoever it is, they should stop. You're right, unsupported accusations don't really belong here. I won't do it, so I request that others not do it either.
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Thanks Chillen and Evo for clearing things up. I didn't know that it was two different IP addresses. No more jumping to hasty conclusions for me...
Also,
Thanks Chillen and Evo for clearing things up. I didn't know that it was two different IP addresses. No more jumping to hasty conclusions for me...
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I would strongly disagree.
If a thread topic, post or word is - by most reasonable standards - considered gratuitously profane or vulgar, then I see no value in re-directing that sort of profane / vulgar content to a designated area of the forum. Doing so, serves no purpose in furthering the PG aims of the forum IMO - and if anything, it would represent a step backward IMO.
The simpler solution IMO is to simply not to tolerate what may be deemed to be unreasonable or gratuitous profanity or vulgarity.
If the view is that the value and attractiveness and opportunities for growing the membership of this forum are somehow enhanced by allowing varying opportunities for gratuitous profanity or vulgarity or to put it another way, we have to allow some form / degree of gratuitous profanity and or vulgarity in order not to jeopardize the value and attractiveness and opportunities for growing the membership of this forum - then I think we have to give our collective heads a shake and come to grips with what this forum is really is all about.
In my view, there is a bit too much vulgarity on this forum as it is lately. Evo said it best.......
" the forum seems to have pushed it way beyond bad taste.....it's gotten a bit too far..........it needs to be tamed down "
...so I would welcome measures which would lower the probability of gratuitous profanity or vulgarity to be posted....and not changes to ensure it either remain as it is now ...or, worse yet, might possibly increase the frequency of gratuitous profanity or vulgarity.
To me, a separate area where standards and rules are different than elsewhere on the forum, only accessible by only certain members of the forum adds no value to the forum IMO and it is exclusionary in nature as well.
My point being , you can have a thriving and growing forum community in which there is a very low tolerance for gratuitous profanity or vulgarity IMO.
Again, this forum is primarily all about health and fitness topics - and even taking into account those ' off topic ' forums / threads I don't see any reason to keep them for all members to access - there should be full transparency of the forum's content to all members IMO.
But if some topic should arise ( even here ) that might warrant it being semi-public for privacy reason then there is no reason it shouldn't be under the same gratuitous profanity or vulgarity rules as the rest of the forum.
However, to allocate a semi-public area for the sole purpose of having different and potentially more lax rules on gratuitous profanity or vulgarity isn't a sufficient rationale IMO....if anything, doing so will more than likely only serve to increase the frequency of gratuitous profanity or vulgarity - which none of us want.
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sure, but the fact is, there is a level of vulgarity that already exist here, and it can either be contained or squashed. The mods have chosen not to squash it so far, so why not contain it?
The moderators let it get to where it is, I am just trying to offer one solution. They have the power to turn around and say "no vulgarity or you are banned" or "have at it" It is up to them what they want to do and how they want the forum to become.
However, it is as it is now, and I am suggesting something that could help make it easier to contain a situation that seems to be negatively affecting the forum.
I'm saying it exist here already, I'm not suggesting we go and recruit porn stars to help promote the site.
Well I would also like to hear what measures could help lower the profanity, but I haven't heard any yet, and merely saying that it should be isn't going to make it happen. Constructive ideas as to how this could be accomplished is much more productive than merely taking offense to a suggestion I thought *might* be conducive to both parties.
SELF exclusionary. No one is being kept out against their will.
Sure you can, but at the moment it exist here.......
She started asking where Der's posts had gone even though they were deleted before Gas joined and also seemed to have a personal issue with certain members from the first day. She claims to be a 'friend' of a current member but that seems an unlikely reason to put so much effort into trolling
Anyway, one point that people don't seen to have taken on board in this thread is - The vulgarity has stopped, why are people still making an issue out of it?
Gotfit, do you think there is too much vulgarity on the forum now? Mods have been editing posts that we found to be too offencive. I haven't seen anything too bad lately except people insulting and provoking Gas, something I have been working on improving. If you think it is too bad now and that the little vulgarity that is on the forum now needs to be moved into a separate section I think that would be moderating way too heavily. We can't expect everyone to pretend they are writing an academic essay in all their posts, it would kill the personal feel of the forum. The way I see it, some vulgarity should just be left around the boards, as long as it doesn't get too bad it is OK. And for the very heavy stuff that is offencive, we should delete it instead of letting it flourish in its own section.
Those are my thoughts.
Those are my thoughts.
Well i think vulgarness should be allowed to an extent. An example would be this...
NOT ALLOWED: An example of me talking about women's private area's etc.
REASON: Could offend someone.
ALLOWED: Me talking about taking a dump on someone's head.
REASON: Its just a bit of immature fun, i dont see how that really could offend someone.
NOT ALLOWED: An example of me talking about women's private area's etc.
REASON: Could offend someone.
ALLOWED: Me talking about taking a dump on someone's head.
REASON: Its just a bit of immature fun, i dont see how that really could offend someone.
Quite right.
And as I said earlier, people like Evo have said the vulgarity has " pushed way beyond bad taste.....it's gotten a bit too far..........it needs to be tamed down ".
The mods - or Evo at least - have chosen to to suggest that the current level of vulgarity is unacceptable and needs to be reduced.
Again, I agree.
And once again, I think if we use Evo's comments ( above ) on the matter, I think what the mods want - i.e generally less vulgarity - is quite clear.
Seems to me, the issue isn't where in the forum an unacceptable level ( or otherwise ) of vulgarity may or should exist , but that if an unacceptable level of vulgarity actually exists anywhere on the forum, it needs to be dealt with.
And if that is the case, steps should be taken to try and have it return to acceptable levels of vulgarity etc. - however the mods / admins wish to define that. The rationale being, that gratuitous profanity or vulgarity adds no value to the forum and may in fact be offensive to people in the same name calling, personal attacks etc. are. - which also aren't tolerated.
Yes, I know.
And up until now, it's out of hand
Perhaps we should start a thread exploring how to find such " Constructive ideas " help promote the reduction of gratuitous profanity or vulgarity - not a further debate of whether we should tolerate gratuitous profanity or vulgarity mind you - but to try an reduce it.
In other words, if you simply ask the members how they might approach the goal of reducing gratuitous profanity or vulgarity, I'm sure some ideas may spring out of that. I have one or 2 myself.
Correct.
And up until now, it's gotten out of hand.
I was on another fitness forum and a guy made a post about his cheat meal at a junk food place. Instead of a pic of a burger, the guy posted nudity. Imagine if I had family around or was viewing this in a public place? Its easy to major on the minor and draw the wrong crowd from the internet.
Because the site is supposed to be a fitness site, schools/parents and so on that use filters can let impressionable kids onto these sites. A locker room section is bad news in my opinion.
Because the site is supposed to be a fitness site, schools/parents and so on that use filters can let impressionable kids onto these sites. A locker room section is bad news in my opinion.
Bloody hell, it was out of hand, it's been dealt with, you're all sounding like a broken record. Can't this just get dropped now?
come on Evo. You should know thats not hard to do. Let me just go double click a script routine I have and change my IP addy. Then I'll come back as Oil or something.
If we really want to stop ' vulgarness ' then choosing to avoid terms that trigger the profanity filter - i.e **** - might be a pretty good place to start IMO.
Wrangell WTF, i let the filter do its job. Usually i would put sh1t. But i let it do its job. Stop caring about every little thing that doesnt suit your preferences.
Nothing is perfect.
I think you're clutching at straws now for a justifiable reason to carry on the arguement. There is very little vulgarity still around on the site but lots of people still moaning about it which is making the situation worse.
If you don't drop the issue then some people are going to wonder why they're making the effort to tone down their posts when they'll get moaned at for past indiscretions anyway
Quite right ...people can choose whether to use a gratuitous profanity - filtered or otherwise - in their posts on a regular basis or not.
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