Sport is this true about protein??

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.8 to 1 gm of protein per kg was the guideline they were referring to, I believe.

As I understand it, the "official" guidelines from all the major associations is .8-1.0 gm per Kg for the average healthy adult, and up to 1.5 g per Kg for athletes.

I'm sure it's out there, and I'm not disputing it b/c I know there is almost always evidence to support more than one point of view. It's just the "1 g per lb" always seems to somehow (directly or indirectly) tie back to the supplement companies (who have obvious reasons for pushing a recommendation higher than all the associations).
 
I got the point of your post Evo. I was thinking it to be unreasonable to add more protein and you revealed my "itty bitty" thinking. thx fer that.
 
deschain said:
.8 to 1 gm of protein per kg was the guideline they were referring to, I believe.

As I understand it, the "official" guidelines from all the major associations is .8-1.0 gm per Kg for the average healthy adult, and up to 1.5 g per Kg for athletes.

I'm sure it's out there, and I'm not disputing it b/c I know there is almost always evidence to support more than one point of view. It's just the "1 g per lb" always seems to somehow (directly or indirectly) tie back to the supplement companies (who have obvious reasons for pushing a recommendation higher than all the associations).
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Actually, the 1 gram is on a ' per pound ' of bodyweight basis.

According to the American College of Sports Medicine the suggested protein intake of grams per day for ' experienced male bodybuilders and strength athletes ' is 1.6 to 1.7 g/kg bodyweight.

Conversion to ' lbs ' is 2.2 lbs / kg. So, 1.6 to 1.7 g/kg bodyweight works out to about .73 - .77 g/lb. bodyweight.

This ( 73 - .77 ) simply ' rounds up ' 0.8 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight.
 
Ah, thanks.

So,the ACSM does not recommend 1gm per pound (and up), but .8 max for an athlete? or is that minimum and it goes up from there?

Well, the FDA may be a bunch of idiots, but the ACSM sure isn't. lol
 
flyinfree said:
ok,, I'm not buying it in my case. I appreciate the simplicity.
But, i gotta tell ya. I came up at 112 grams of protein. I can't imagine slamming another 80 grams in. holy moly!!

today's food:"
Breakfast
yogurt
2 serving of fresh cherries
2 servings of walnuts

snack
1 / 2 orange bell pepper
4 chillens (it's an oat cookie)

lunch
chicken breast
8 oz of beef heart


snack
100 cals snack - sun chips
nectarine
cucumber

dinner
snapper (fish) and fresh scallops no sauce
brocoli and carrots
potatoes mashed

chillens and milk (desert of champions) - oat and raisen
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Try to take in some type of protein with your snacks. Penuts, milk, jerky, peanutbutter.... That will up your intake some. Also do you work out? If so mix up a protein shake and that will put you over the top
 
I have added cottage cheese over the last few days 2 times per day. It is good with lots of pepper.

hahaha! I might break a sweat every once in awhile. No steroids.

More portable protein ideas? The LV list is pretty much all "have to be cooked" things.

Also, on milk- Whole, Vitamin D, 2%, Goats Milk? What is best?
 
I think the more important equation is this: just ensure yourself that your getting at least .8 to 1.5 (at least somewhere in there) of protein; however, with this in mind, the more important elements are the total circumference of the diet nutrients, rather than just the over rated and over hyped protein. Just one essential organ not getting what it needs, will hamper progress, and you can take all the protein you want, its not gonna help ya. The body works as a machine and together as one unit, and protein is just one important element among many other important elements the body needs. Its a small peice in the larger pie.

Jackie, just make a decision, and forget the debate on how much. Making a decision on what to do in your question, is what you need. Protein is NOT the muscle breaker nor muscle maker when considering OVERALL circumference of what the body needs, its just a play enumerator. IF it were, lets remove steroids, and we would have a different (what they call) professional body building competition set. Its difficult growing muscle naturally or to develop more muscle, and whats more important is the overall circumference of nutrients and calories.

Good luck to you Jackie.
 
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matt182 said:
Essentially theres no conclusive that consuming anymore than around 140g of protein will provide anymore benefits.
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Except every Pro IFBB bodybuilder, every amateur bodybuilder over 100kg lean, every competitive powerlifter, every strongman.

If I ate 140g of protein a day I would starve and my body would eat itself.
 
Except every Pro IFBB bodybuilder, every amateur bodybuilder over 100kg lean, every competitive powerlifter, every strongman.

If I ate 140g of protein a day I would starve and my body would eat itself.
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I completely agree. And have also tried this argument.

There are members of this forum that refuse to take into account practical knowledge and experience, or anything that is not "proven" by research.

+rep for practical experience.
 
Conan Stevens said:
Except every Pro IFBB bodybuilder, every amateur bodybuilder over 100kg lean, every competitive powerlifter, every strongman.

If I ate 140g of protein a day I would starve and my body would eat itself.
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Your right you would starve, unless the protein was just PART of the diet, which is obviously what were talking about:rolleyes:

If the best marathon runners in the world swore by their creatine use, i suppose you would assume that it was the cause of their achievments.
 
sorry matt i am 145kg lean I think I know what it takes to pack on muscle, as do all the Mr. Universes that I know, etc.

You go eat your 140g a day and see how far you get, when you hit over 100kg lean please do tell me about it I would be very interested to see your diet and results.
 
flyinfree said:
I am active! I weigh 193 lbs. SO, 193 grams of protein sounds like a lot. If I were to just eat 20 gram protein bars that would be 10 of them. let alone all the calories that would be.

no intent to debate, just trying to understand.... i am trying to work this diet thing and get ready for a traithlon event.

I ate a 1/2 pound of beef heart last night. Do you happen to know the protein count in that?
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It says a gram of protein for each pound of lean mass. If you weight 193 lbs. I can guarantee that it is now all lean mass.
 
Conan Stevens said:
sorry matt i am 145kg lean I think I know what it takes to pack on muscle, as do all the Mr. Universes that I know, etc.

You go eat your 140g a day and see how far you get, when you hit over 100kg lean please do tell me about it I would be very interested to see your diet and results.
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i was referring to the average person.
Dont worry buddy :hug2:
 
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