I'm gonna rape a man

And no, I've never gotten raped, however, I know of guys who have been.

By a girl?
 
By a girl?

OK- Forgive me, but there is also some recovery to be had here.

I was raped by a girl. My first sexual experience was a babysitter. I was in 1 or 2 grade, I remember the house I lived in. I do not remember erection details, nor do I remember orgasm details, but I do remember her yelling at me alot.

Today, I beg to be raped, but my honey just won't pull my hair-- hahahahaha

TMI

FF
 
By a girl?

yeah, and in the front too! :p

Technically, if you have sex with a guy (or a girl offcource) when he is very drunk, too drunk to resist or know entierly what's going on, it's rape.
I've heard of that happening quite a bit.
But I know/heard of some involving drugs. One guy said he woke up with a used condom still on him, head hurting like hell, etc.

I just think that you don't hear a lot about it. Specially the drunk thing, because most guys don't report it (same with girls, but I think more guys don't). I think when it comes to drunk rape, guys have a very different attitude towards it. Aslong as they know who the girl was and that she was OK looking, it probably won't matter as much to them. However, that doesn't mean consent, since they actually weren't aware enough to consent when it happened. But if they had been, some of them probably would have consented. I quote: "I don't know why she did it, I mean I would totally have done her if she just asked me. Man, I feel so violated".
 
However, that doesn't mean consent, since they actually weren't aware enough to consent when it happened.
In a scenario where the man drunk him self into such a stupor. It is partly his fault for allowing himself to become such an invalid.

Had he been more "responsible" with his drinking it would not have taken place.

If your going to get so hammered that you don't even know who your screwing. You might want to keep the drinks at home and have a "party" of your own, so to speak. Public places (bars even) might not be the best place to allow yourself to become so drunk to a point you might be considered mentally retarded.
 
In a scenario where the man drunk him self into such a stupor. It is partly his fault for allowing himself to become such an invalid.

Had he been more "responsible" with his drinking it would not have taken place.

If your going to get so hammered that you don't even know who your screwing. You might want to keep the drinks at home and have a "party" of your own, so to speak. Public places (bars even) might not be the best place to allow yourself to become so drunk to a point you might be considered mentally retarded.


I'm going to have to agree with this. I believe the same thing when it comes to women too. If you are so drunk or wasted on whatever (by your own doing) and you have sex with someone during that time how are you going to say it was rape? Maybe you did consent you just can't remember. Maybe you both were wasted out of your minds. I think using the word rape in a case like that weakens the meaning of the word.

Obviously it's rape if someone forces themselves on you (whether you are buzzed or not). No means no of course and the trouble is that a woman is physically weaker than a man and would not be able to fight him off. But that's where it's almost impossible for a man to get raped since he should be able to easily fight her off. If she insists and he gives in that's not rape, it's seduction.
 
In a scenario where the man drunk him self into such a stupor. It is partly his fault for allowing himself to become such an invalid.

Had he been more "responsible" with his drinking it would not have taken place.

If your going to get so hammered that you don't even know who your screwing. You might want to keep the drinks at home and have a "party" of your own, so to speak. Public places (bars even) might not be the best place to allow yourself to become so drunk to a point you might be considered mentally retarded.

I agree, it's stupid to get that drunk, but it's still rape. There's alot of cases just like that (usually with girls being the victim though). It's very hard to prove though.
Besides, it's not hard to get people drunker than they want to be.

And yeah, if both the girl and the boy are drunk, you can't really call it rape.
IMO though, any person who is sober and takes advantage of another person when they are too drunk to be aware of what is happening, deserves to be called a rapist.
 
IMO though, any person who is sober and takes advantage of another person when they are too drunk to be aware of what is happening, deserves to be called a rapist.
Thats a tad vague, Karky. So your saying If you were blind drunk and I took advantage of you by convincing you to give me 5 bucks. I would be considered a "rapist" in your eyes? ;)
 
Trevor, Kary's grammar and spelling is often better than yours, hun

And unlike him, english is your first language! lol

He was just joking, lol :p
and about spelling "kary"??
I'm always joking.. I tried being serious once, but then I started laughing..:eek:
 
Trevor, Kary's grammar and spelling is often better than yours, hun
And unlike him, english is your first language! lol

Thats very true! However, At least I know how to correctly spell his name.

Any other thing you wish to point out about me, hun?
 
I agree with the drunk thing. If you get yourself drunk, then you should be responsible enough to do it in a safe place where you can't get taken advantage of. Now if someone else gets you drunk or slips you a drug without you knowing that's what they're trying to do, that's another story. That should be considered rape.
 
So I'm welcome to have sex without if I ever meet you while you are very drunk? Thanks.

I'm afraid the law disagrees with you, atleast Norwegian law.

a 15 year old girl doing what 15 year old girls do. Go to a party with her friends, end up really drunk, talking to some guy she doesn't know. She wakes up in an unfamiliar bed with an unfamiliar guy, and she's not a virgin anymore. Are you seriously telling me you don't think that's rape? That you think it's her fault?
 
So I'm welcome to have sex without if I ever meet you while you are very drunk? Thanks.

I'm afraid the law disagrees with you, atleast Norwegian law.

a 15 year old girl doing what 15 year old girls do. Go to a party with her friends, end up really drunk, talking to some guy she doesn't know. She wakes up in an unfamiliar bed with an unfamiliar guy, and she's not a virgin anymore. Are you seriously telling me you don't think that's rape? That you think it's her fault?

Yes, why on earth would a 15 year old be drinking to the point that she didn't know what was going on? Why would a 15 year old be drinking at all?

Yes, what the guy did was very wrong, but the girl is partly at fault. She has the responsibility to take care of her own body and part of that means being aware enough in an unfamilliar or dangerous place. Now, if she were forced to drink that much or if she were slipped a date rape drug, that would be another story. But if she willingly got that drunk herself, it was her choice, and she is partly at fault. Again, I'm not saying that the guy wasn't wrong in what he did, but the girl willingly put herself in a risky situation.
 
my k, p, and enter buttons are messed up on my keyboard.
I don't believe I asked for a "why". Thanks anyway, though!

Again, I'm not saying that the guy wasn't wrong in what he did, but the girl willingly put herself in a risky situation.
Right, Like you put your self in a risky situation when you drive. Does that mean when a person comes across the lane and hits you head on it isn't their fault because YOU placed your self in the risky position in the first place? No...

I understand what your saying. It is in part agreeing with what I said in my post in the previous page. However, it still is a choice of the male individual (in this scenario) to take advantage of a girl who's judgment ability has been impaired through an external product(beer in this case).
In which case, regardless of the fact the girl allowed herself to become drunk. He knew this and took advantage of the situation. Majority of fault goes to the guy in this case.
 
Yes, why on earth would a 15 year old be drinking to the point that she didn't know what was going on? Why would a 15 year old be drinking at all?

Yes, what the guy did was very wrong, but the girl is partly at fault. She has the responsibility to take care of her own body and part of that means being aware enough in an unfamilliar or dangerous place. Now, if she were forced to drink that much or if she were slipped a date rape drug, that would be another story. But if she willingly got that drunk herself, it was her choice, and she is partly at fault. Again, I'm not saying that the guy wasn't wrong in what he did, but the girl willingly put herself in a risky situation.

In your opinion, would that be rape?

15 year olds drink all the time in my home town, underage drinking = our culture (sad but true). Kids that young don't know how to handle their liqour. Often times, they don't "willingly" get that drunk, since they have no idea what they are doing. They sit and shot, feel fine. Then they stand up, and BANG. It happenes very fast, believe me, I've been part of that culture.
IMO, it's rape even if the girl did willingly get that drunk, but most people don't willingly get that drunk. It's usually an accident, they drink too much, don't know the right "drinking technique" etc.

I do agree though, that putting yourself in such a vounerable position is not wise. But you should be allowed to walk around drunk out of your skull without anyone taking advantage of you (unfortunately, that's not how the human race works)
 
Yes, I agree that it's still rape. I said that if a guy were to do that it would be very wrong, but the girl could significantly reduce her risk if she weren't participating in that kind of behaviour. As for culture, believe me it's in American culture too. It's a huge part of it. It doesn't mean that you have to join in on it though. I'm 17. I do not drink. I have never drank. It's not legal. Even though a lot of adolescents do it and it's part of the culture, that doesn't make it okay. It's against the law and it's just plain not smart. I have too much to worry about already. Why throw in the added complication of alcohol? Alcohol tends to ruin a lot of fun if not used responsibly.
 
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A girl who gets taken advantage of because she is drunk deserves it. (they are in a predators hangout)

It is the same reason that people who get attacked by sharks deserve that. (they are swimming around in the sharks food bowl)

Ultimately, right or wrong, that is the situation.

Does that mean when a person comes across the lane and hits you head on it isn't their fault because YOU placed your self in the risky position in the first place?

We all accept the fact that you can get in a car accident. We all take the risk. It is no different.

If you drive long enough, you will get in an accident.

If you go out getting hammered enough times, you are going to get taken advantage of.

The difference is that you can be smart about drinking and not put yourself in the situation.
 
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