Sport How much red meat per week?

[SXIPro]

Beef. It's what's for dinner.

My father was a butcher. We ate red meat at least 4 days a week, usually 5 growing up. He had his first heart attack at 33 years old. Looking at him, you never would have known he was at risk. Had his second heart attack at 55 and had succesful bypass surgery. He is battling colon cancer right now. Yes there were other contributing factors to his health issues I'm sure, specifically his love of salty potato chips, but still I try to limit myself somewhat on the red meat. At least compared to how much I ate it as a kid.

But, God knows, there is nothing better than a huge barely cooked slab of grilled steak on your plate. Or even a giant burger cooked rare from Longhorns or Hard Rock Cafe. :jump1:

 

[Phate89]

Beef. It's what's for dinner.

My father was a butcher. We ate red meat at least 4 days a week, usually 5 growing up. He had his first heart attack at 33 years old. Looking at him, you never would have known he was at risk. Had his second heart attack at 55 and had succesful bypass surgery. He is battling colon cancer right now. Yes there were other contributing factors to his health issues I'm sure, specifically his love of salty potato chips, but still I try to limit myself somewhat on the red meat. At least compared to how much I ate it as a kid.

But, God knows, there is nothing better than a huge barely cooked slab of grilled steak on your plate. Or even a giant burger cooked rare from Longhorns or Hard Rock Cafe. :jump1:

If he weight trained, and kept himself in shape he would not have suffered from any of that.

Like I said before and will say again, the only people that need to worry about red meat intake are average joes who don't lift or keep in shape.

I know people who eat a pound of beef a day, 1/4th a cup of butter, 10 boiled eggs a day and they managed to lower their cholestrol and blood pressure, and thats because they train hard and don't sit on their ass after the meal watching tv.

 

[SXIPro]

He may not have 'weight trained' in the gym, but he was lifting more weight on a daily basis than most guys I ever see in the free weight room. He swam 3 days a week and played tennis all the time. He was no couch potato by any stretch of the imagination. He is 70 now and I still wouldn't mess with him. I'm sure genetics are a part of his problem, and genetics are also part of the reason some folks you know can eat like the old style Russian powerlifters and not drop dead at the buffet table.

 

[Phate89]

He may not have 'weight trained' in the gym, but he was lifting more weight on a daily basis than most guys I ever see in the free weight room. He swam 3 days a week and played tennis all the time. He was no couch potato by any stretch of the imagination. He is 70 now and I still wouldn't mess with him. I'm sure genetics are a part of his problem, and genetics are also part of the reason some folks you know can eat like the old style Russian powerlifters and not drop dead at the buffet table.

And how would they have been able to LOWER their cholestrol and get in even BETTER shape after they started eating like a true carniovore?
Your Dad might have "exercised" but exercising is not the same as intense training.

 

[SXIPro]

Whatever, dude. You are obviously right and I am wrong. I bow to the one who knows all there is to know about the effects of red meat on cardiovascular health. High intensity cures all ills, it could probably even stave off death permanently. Let me call Al Gore. Maybe once he hits the Squat rack at Gold's, global warming will be cured as well.

 

[matt182]

How can you be so arrogant an ignorant Phate,

"If he weight trained, and kept himself in shape he would not have suffered from any of that"

If someone directed this response to me id be outright offended. Whats your basis for that and do you even realise the enourmous complexities of such diseases. Its not simply "weight train, get fit and youll be fine - no need to worry"


I mean seriously, theres stacks of evidence out there that if you consume too much meat, especially if processed, it raises your risk REGARDLESS if you weight train or not.

 

[philsaigon]

I bow to the one who knows all there is to know about the effects of red meat on cardiovascular health.

Ditto

How can you be so arrogant an ignorant Phate,

Ditto

 

[Chillen]

Like I said before and will say again, the only people that need to worry about red meat intake are average joes who don't lift or keep in shape.

This statement is false.


Best wishes,


Chillen

 

[tribal1]

As the saying goes too much of everything is poisonous. Even too much exercise/weight training is bad for you as you can get injured. No one is superman to eat as much as they like/eat poorly and then "exercise it off".

 

[SXIPro]

Wow. I thought for sure when I logged on this morning, I was going to be bashed beyond belief for stating my points and differing opinions to a Senior Member.

matt182, philsaigon, Chillen, tribal, Thank you all very much for your input on this thread.

 

[Typhon]

so defenitely dont make that assumption from that one article, and i hope tribal understands that i wasnt implying that either.

Don't worry, I never accept the results of any research to be 100% accurate, I just add the data to my head and create a much larger picture. I just thought that part of their findings jumped out of the page at me

*Thread Hijack*
Just out of interest though, when you read these research projects do you ever wonder how many other factors are at play that seriously compromise the findings?

In my work I deal with statistics and consumer panels and although I don't know this for sure I'd bet my house that people who eat a high fibre diet are also far more likely to be higher earners, non-smokers, less stressed and get far more exercise. Is it not possible that these factors seriously skew research findings that are based around diets?

 

[theGOOCH]

I try not to go above 1 steer per week