HIIT vs jogging whats better for burning fat?

no worries, i wish i did ironman i use to do mini versions on the beach when i was younger. Have a bad knee now so i cant really do anything involing stressfull continuall cadences.

At least your not working out 100%, even though it may be longer what your doing now :)

Its kinda good that it is tough, because you dont want the random person off the street to be able to do it, but restricted to those who train their guts off!
 
you must be a fit b***** too! whats your resting heart rate? be interesting to know what your lactate threshold it too
 
Just had dinner - 3 chicken breasts, 2 large piles of whole grain rice, and veggies.

Just checked HR- it is 59, i am 39 years old, I weigh 182.5. and i am 5'9.75"

tonight i swam 1.2 miles in 38 minutes ;)
 
generally the lower it is the fitter you are.

are you serious? just measure your heart beat for 15seconds then times by 4
 
I want to add just a little something back to the original HIIT conversation.

In my personal experience, I've burned tons more fat doing HIIT than traditional cardio.

Plus it's more fun for me since I love the feeling of being completely exhausted and pushing through it (at a safe level)..so I love it.

Also, my heart rate dropped a pretty good amount when I first started doing HIIT. I'm not sure how much, but I've been doing HIIT for awhile now and my heart rate is around 53-55 usually.

On some days I've actually had it down to 49 lol.
 
Only disingenuous frauds claim HIIT is superior for fat loss. Sorry to burst some bubbles here, but exercise does NOT have much of an impact on losing fat. Diet is 90 % of it. Look up Dr. Melanson, there is no afterburn in the next 24 hours as falsely believed by exercise buffs. Recent peer reviewed scientific literature supports this . Exercise does NOT speed the metabolism when you are done.

This whole issue is one of Lyle McDonald's pet peeves. The Tremblay Study did NOT in any way find "9 times greater fat loss". After 15 weeks there was ONLY 2 pounds lost in the interval subjects.

There were other factors too in the study - diet was NOT controlled. Using Tremblay's research for the " HIIT is better for fat loss" argument is fraud. I have spoken to Tremblay himself. His research shows no such thing.


Diet is for fat loss. HIIT is for the anaerobic system. Running steadily burns TWICE the calories HIIT does, and remember there is NO AFTERBURN. HIIT does NOT burn many calories.


If you get hungrier from steady state running, though, and overeat , then that is a problem, and negates the dramatically increased calorie burn of steady state running .

And please don't even start the farcical "sprinter vs marathoner" argument, another pet peeve of Lyle McDonald. Sprinters do NOT do HIIT. There sprint workouts do NOT resemble it in the least.(this is something HIIT proponents never mention)


MOST (75 %) of an Olympic sprinter's workout is LOW INTENSITY tempo runs . ( this is also something HIIT proponents never mention)

THAT is how they lean out if anything (exercise wise) mixed with diet. The person's build picks the sport. Persons who naturally look like sprinters go into sprinting.

There are plenty of steady state runners I see with great bodies. (of course their calorie intake is correct)

There is NOTHING magical about sprinting for fat loss purposes , despite the farcical hype.
 
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Very interesting discuss here, I've joined the community because of this thread. Sorry if bump is not allowed :D I'm Daniel from Spain and would like to add some thoughts.



First: LOL at latest reply... so HIIT is just an illusion?


From my experience, HIIT is a very nice way to lose fats while having fun. I was near to obese (5'9' tall and 210 pounds). Now i'm on the 175-ish and still cutting. Steady cardio seemed like a hateful training way. Very boring.

I purchased a spinning bike for home and performed some HIIT routine for beginners, basically 8-10seconds ubersprints (and I mean, true 100% allout) and then 50-52 seconds jogging at 60%. The numbers fit exact minutes so it would be easier to check times on the LCD. Of course setting the bike with some kind of intermediate/hard resistance.

After some time I managed to increase to 12seconds sprints and reduce jog/rest times to 18 seconds. IMHO the rest times are the key. Also I was very worried about my sprint times might be ridiculous, but I researched for long and found an article talking of short sprints being more "efficient" to improve your anaerobic capacities and increasing metabolic rate for further 48 hours. In other words, more amount of short sprints would be better than a shorter amount of long sprints.

Furthermore, it's kinda impossible to sustain a let's say 30 seconds * real 100% sprint*, unless your name is Usain Bolt :D


Now I have been out of training world because some issues but I'm starting again, now on real running. I suggest noobs and obese people to start with static bike or spinning bike but once you are average capable, the static bike won't be enough for keep improving IMO.
 
I have also tried HIIT, the one I found consisted of sprint for 30 secs and jog for 1 min do this for 10 mins, then 25 mins on a bike to maintain your heart rate (Of whcih i find this the most difficult part of the session, as I get bored exteremly quickly!) then back to the treadmill for another 10 mins on 1 mins sprints and 1 1/2 mins jog (I usually quit close to 8 mins on this, as I am spent). The problem I have is I get bored very quickly when running or cycling. When I finish this session, I am well and truely spent! but I recover extremely quickly.

the thing I need to know is how often should I do this programme in a week?

I also play netball (a bit like Basketball, but not able to move with the ball) (90 mins per week training, 90 mins per week playing, and up to 180mins a week umpiring!), also where Possible I try to go to the gym and do core and Body Combat too. Time is short due to Netball commitments (I also coach).

I am female, 37. 5'7" and about 200lbs!!! (14st 4.5lbs) I need to lose about 3 stone to be happy, but I am very fussy with my food, and obviously not in a good way!!!

looking forward to your advice

donna
 
More and more studies are showing the value of interval training for fat loss, and while it is true that your eating habits have a much more significant impact on real fat loss, the best exercises are those like HIIT where your level of intensity is constantly changing.

Netball sounds pretty cool, but 90 minutes of physical activity per week is nowhere near enough, especially if you're struggling with food! The good thing about high intensity interval training is that your workouts don't need to be very long, so you can do them more often. If you have the time, try putting aside 30 minutes/day to work on your interval training at whatever intensity level you can consistently give it.

It's important to remember, however, that if you really want to see legitimate fat loss you've gotta start eating better.
 
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