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theGOOCH

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Forgive me for my stream-of-consciousness rambling, but maybe someone else can relate to this and maybe be helped by it...

I was just talking about this with my wife yesterday and I guess I never put it into words before....

I think my metabolism has become legendary around here; well my appetite used to be even greater. I eat close to 4000 cals to stay around 185 now, so can you imagine how much I used to eat when I was 227 and still probably gaining?

Some people think it's weird that I never cheat on my diet...never. I've been doing this for a year and I have not had one bite of food that I think is inconsistent with my plan.

I think I actually used to be addicted to things like pizza, fast food, mexican food etc. and eating that at all is just incompatible with my life now. Furthermore, a cheat meal is supposed to be in reason...what fun is that? If I were to have bacon, I wouldn't want 2 slices, I'd want a pound with 4 or 5 biscuits with gravy..I wouldn't want a couple slices of pizza, I'd want a whole large, or 14 tacos etc.

Right now I don't crave those things at all and I simply don't want them. On top of that if I did cheat just for convenience every now and then I'm afraid I'd lose control...Just like an alcoholic or drug addict. That just wouldn't be worth it especially for something I really don't want anyway.
 
You are a legend in your own mind.

And, you know what?

This is what matters the most.

And, makes one tick.

So what if the neighbors down the road call 911 due to how often you eat due to the great and powerful "Toilet Thunder" each time you eat.

There is no law against this, except the laws you create.

So the police walk off in amazement.

You set an example in which has transformed into the real you.

You are not any different than anyone else, really, in dealing with what nature has dealt them or trying to manipulate what nature has dealt.

I understand you more than you think :)

Once a few habits are changed, it can tend to spin off other new habits, and erode old habits, and then you hop around like a bunny rabbit.....

with new habits.......

All happy..........and SHIIIIIIIAT......

And transform into

A legend in your own mind......


WHICH IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT!


Best wishes,


Chillen
 
I guess what I'm coming to here is that for some people the conventional diet wisdom of "if you crave something, don't deny yourself" isn't a good idea. For me it's all or nothing.

Toilet thunder LMAO, you're something else
 
theGOOCH said:
I guess what I'm coming to here is that for some people the conventional diet wisdom of "if you crave something, don't deny yourself" isn't a good idea. For me it's all or nothing.

Toilet thunder LMAO, you're something else
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Exactly! And, I understand your point, and if you read my post in the right manner, it says just this.

Conventional diet WISDOM should be: "what works for the specific person" when applying basic and advanced basics of diet and fitness.

Basically, if it isnt broken, it need no fixen'

And, this can vary. You abstain, while others can do well allowing a little dirt in once in while.

While others who allow in a little dirt can wreak havoc on personal binges, and fall off their diet. While others binge or eat bad, and know not what they do to themselves.

One has to figure out their personal science, and it seems you have yours figured out.

While others can deal with craving something, fit it in their diet, and still stay on track, while keeping "their own" personal science in solid construction.

I am just saying, you are really no different than anyone else when dealing with "the self" and trying to figure out what works and what doesnt work when dealing with genetics and other things specific to the person.

They just vary in how its implemented, processed, and ultimately learning what works.

It still has to "fall within certain" personal parimeters to be successful. No way around this fact.


YEA! I like being something else........it stirs up the spirit on the board....

and this ROCKS!


Best wishes


Chillen
 
Yeah, I actually looked at your fitday account when you posted it and you were eating like right around 3600 calories every single day... ha. That is some dedication (to keep it so perfectly consistent), and good job.

Just out of curiosity.. how much exercise/activity do you do while you are cutting ?
 
I don't change my activity level whether I'm cutting, bulking, or maintaining. I lift 3 days per week and run 3 days per week.

Right now I'm forcing myself to take a week off to rest. I think it was about 9 weeks since I last took off any time. I'm always tempted to work out even when I know I need rest, so I'm going to visit my sister (away from my equipment) tomorrow through Sat LOL, I better leave my Garmin at home too.

I keep my calories within 30 of my goal....I'm not naive enough to think the real-life numbers are that exact, but I figure the closer I am on paper the closer I am in real life. There was one day a couple months ago when I accidentally ate like 400 calories over and I just about freaked out LOL
 
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I want to give you huge props for your dedication and determination to reach your goals. It takes a mentally and physically strong person to pursue what they believe it and keep striving for bigger and better goals.
 
I know exaclty where you're coming from and am in the same position. I used to eat an unbelievable amount of fast fried food and now I don't think I could ever go back to it because I'd completely lose control.

I hate the fact other people make comments like "You're so skinny now it's time to treat yourself' my god they don't know where I've come from do they! Some people also try and make it sound like I have an eating disorder just because I won't eat it, luckily I've reached a point where I don't care what others think because I realise I'm the most important person :yelrotflmao:
 
I consider it a weakness myself... to not be able to eat something because you fear losing control and eating too much.

I'm reading an interesting book here about Chris Farley’s biography: The Chris Farley Show. It's about Farley’s addiction to food, alcohol, and drugs. It seems that whenever he did a little of anything, he lose control and has to go on a binge beyond the normal range. The thing I gathered is that he never went into the root of the problem. The problem is that he just "gave it up" without knowing why and suddenly when he's confronted with food, drugs, and alcohol, he suddenly remembers all the good in it, but don't remember why it's bad.

Now I'm not saying that what you're doing is bad or anything. I mean you look great. However, I think for most normal people, food is powerful. If you're out with friends or just drive around, you can easily want to try new things at fast food and so fort. Heck I remember back when the McRibs came out and people actually got into a van and drove across the country to each McDonalds to try out the McRib until it went out. I think they joked about it on the Simpons once. The point is, fast food is bad, yes, but only if you eat every single day of your life. If you just happen to want a Big Mac and Coke, I say go out and have yourself a Big Mac and Coke. No sense in forbidding it just because it's "bad." As a matter of fact, no food is good. I mean no matter what you get, it will have something bad in it. For example, fruits and veggies, grown near cities, can have toxic chemicals in it. Eat enough of it, and who knows what will happen.
 
Dallen said:
I consider it a weakness myself... to not be able to eat something because you fear losing control and eating too much.

I'm reading an interesting book here about Chris Farley’s biography: The Chris Farley Show. It's about Farley’s addiction to food, alcohol, and drugs. It seems that whenever he did a little of anything, he lose control and has to go on a binge beyond the normal range. The thing I gathered is that he never went into the root of the problem. The problem is that he just "gave it up" without knowing why and suddenly when he's confronted with food, drugs, and alcohol, he suddenly remembers all the good in it, but don't remember why it's bad.

Now I'm not saying that what you're doing is bad or anything. I mean you look great. However, I think for most normal people, food is powerful. If you're out with friends or just drive around, you can easily want to try new things at fast food and so fort. Heck I remember back when the McRibs came out and people actually got into a van and drove across the country to each McDonalds to try out the McRib until it went out. I think they joked about it on the Simpons once. The point is, fast food is bad, yes, but only if you eat every single day of your life. If you just happen to want a Big Mac and Coke, I say go out and have yourself a Big Mac and Coke. No sense in forbidding it just because it's "bad." As a matter of fact, no food is good. I mean no matter what you get, it will have something bad in it. For example, fruits and veggies, grown near cities, can have toxic chemicals in it. Eat enough of it, and who knows what will happen.
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Obviously it's not something that will control everyday of a persons life but which would you consider more of a weakness, someone having the will power to stay completely away from food that gives the body next to none of the vital nutrients or someone who eats **** everyday of their life and goes to great lengths to eat a specific type of food?
 
If I really craved something I might try it, but I really don't want it. Would I go back to my old ways? I don't think so, but It's not something I want to test when I really don't want the junk food....why tempt fate for something I'd rather not have anyway?

I'm a pretty strong person in that respect and can kick things when I really want. I went back to drinking coffee a few weeks ago then I though "this is ridiculous, I'm hooked on this shiat again." I quit cold turkey and went through the withdrawal headaches for a few days and that was that.

I do have weaknesses however, and I'm not afraid to admit that. For instance I'm really bad at handling stress, even from every day type stressors. This can make my bp jump up and I'm currently working on that. I found a great book on cognitive behavioral therapy and it's already helping some
 
Isn't everyone technically addicted to food? It's just a matter of which food you chose to consume during your "life-long" addiction. Think about it. Alcoholics wake up and have to start drinking, just in the way that all humans have to wake up and eat, all day long. The difference maker is the people who eat crap because it's easy and fast and they don't have to do anything, and the people who are conscious about what they eat, and they spend time preparing things...
 
MarkMyWords said:
Isn't everyone technically addicted to food? It's just a matter of which food you chose to consume during your "life-long" addiction. Think about it. Alcoholics wake up and have to start drinking, just in the way that all humans have to wake up and eat, all day long. The difference maker is the people who eat crap because it's easy and fast and they don't have to do anything, and the people who are conscious about what they eat, and they spend time preparing things...
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In SuperSize me, Morgan Spurlock proved that people an get addicted to fast food, like nicotine.
 
jaim91 said:
In SuperSize me, Morgan Spurlock proved that people an get addicted to fast food, like nicotine.
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Actually he didn't prove anything other than the fact that McDonalds is a highly recognized product. All he proved was that the brand is highly recognized by people and well respected. He didn't prove that it's bad... of course anything will be bad if you ate it for 30 days straight. Heck, if all I ate was fruits for the next 30 days, I would have just about the same result of lack of energy, possible weight loss or gain depending on how much I ate, etc. This experiment he did was an attack without any scientific proof other than ones that people already know about.

In my opinion people are attacking the fast food industry for no reason. Fast food was invented just for that... a quick grab to eat. Sort of like in an amusement park or at the movies, you want a quick bite to eat. The food isn't meant to be nutritional or anything like that.
 
theGOOCH said:
If I really craved something I might try it, but I really don't want it. Would I go back to my old ways? I don't think so, but It's not something I want to test when I really don't want the junk food....why tempt fate for something I'd rather not have anyway?

I'm a pretty strong person in that respect and can kick things when I really want. I went back to drinking coffee a few weeks ago then I though "this is ridiculous, I'm hooked on this shiat again." I quit cold turkey and went through the withdrawal headaches for a few days and that was that.

I do have weaknesses however, and I'm not afraid to admit that. For instance I'm really bad at handling stress, even from every day type stressors. This can make my bp jump up and I'm currently working on that. I found a great book on cognitive behavioral therapy and it's already helping some
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The question is "why did you quit" not so much as "I just quit." Simply saying, "It was bad for me" is not good enough to quit something. It will only last for a limited time before you want it again. No matter how powerful your will power or motivation is, it will never stick unless you make it a discipline and in order to do that, you must first understand why you must quit or do something.

The one thing that surprises me most is how Monks can want absolutely nothing. They have no wants or needs other than what is provided to them. I question why they are like this? They certainly don't have the willpower to not want something. They simply do not desire it. They have the discipline, through years of practice to not want or need. If they made it a battle of will power or motivation, then they would have failed long ago since will power and motivation are only finite features of a human.

This is why so many people fail diets and exercise programs and a lot of other things in life. It's not so much that they are weak minded or something is wrong with them. They had the desire, motivation, and will power to stick with it... but they lacked discipline and that is why they failed.
 
Dallen said:
The question is "why did you quit" not so much as "I just quit." Simply saying, "It was bad for me"
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That's where we disagree. You can quit simply for that reason. Not everyone succeeds, but some do...and I will

You have to know your own strengths and weaknesses.
 
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theGOOCH said:
That's where we disagree. You can quit simply for that reason. Not everyone succeeds, but some do...and I will
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You know you will because you know you have the mental and physical skill that is superior than Doctor Phil.

You are fierce personal competitor with yourself and you conquer all.

No one can penetrate it.

No one can do crap.

They do not have the friggggggggggen required tools.

Because YOU RULES!

When you RULES you dont EVER exprerience defeat.

Isnt this frigggggggggggggggggen NEAT....that you can never be BEAT!



ROCK ON.............GOOCH!

You will always be Undefeated.

OH!!!!!!


What a feelen'!


Take your passion and make this happen!


Best wishes,


Chillen
 
Grrr. Wish I could cut crap food out like you. Like every day ile have a chocolate bar but I do alot of biking and exercise but I need to cut the crap out really
y :(
 
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