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Hi Everyone,

I'm new to this forum but I, being an avid fan of bodybuilding and since it's my main hobbie/interest to do, I have a dilemma in my hands and I would like for some help with. See, my main fitness goal is to gain lean muscle mass. Right now I'm at 163lbs and I want to reach at least 190lbs.
My workout routine consists of doing my weighttraining fri morning, sat morning, sunday morning and monday morning. i do my cardios only twice a week which is tuesdays and thursdays. My two question are is it best to workout on an empty stomach in the morning on my cardio days?? Two, what is the best preworkout supplement? I really appreciate the help and I look forward to sharing thoughts with everyone, thanks again!
 
fitlatino8 said:
Hi Everyone,

I'm new to this forum but I, being an avid fan of bodybuilding and since it's my main hobbie/interest to do, I have a dilemma in my hands and I would like for some help with. See, my main fitness goal is to gain lean muscle mass. Right now I'm at 163lbs and I want to reach at least 190lbs.
My workout routine consists of doing my weighttraining fri morning, sat morning, sunday morning and monday morning. i do my cardios only twice a week which is tuesdays and thursdays. My two question are is it best to workout on an empty stomach in the morning on my cardio days?? Two, what is the best preworkout supplement? I really appreciate the help and I look forward to sharing thoughts with everyone, thanks again!
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In truth, it doesnt matter when cardio is done. If doing cardio in the AM works for you then keep doing it.

The theory on cardio in the Am is mainly due to the "sleep fast" for about 8 hours that occurs when one sleeps or about 8+ hours between meals. Advocates say that the body is at its most vulnerable state for many biological reasons. This is the theory in basic form, and I dont advocate the theory.

But if cardio in the am works for you, then by all means do it. There are no draw backs really.

But remember, as with any exercise including cardio, if the diet isnt right and your eating more than you need, you will gain fat weight, and erase your hard work through cardio. Laws of Energy Balance.

I like doing cardi on on an empty stomach too. But I vary mine. I do it at different times. I may do cardio in the evenings for one week, and then the next week in the mornings, and the next in the early afternoon, and sometimes I may alternate during the week (really mess with the body's clock, screw it right up!.......Yea!......oh.....)


Cardio in Am is cool.
 
fasted cardio is not neccessary. I do it every once in a while to shock the body but where you are looking to put on size I would opt to at least having a protein shake before the morning cardio

Where you are looking to put on size you should be more worried about getting a nice big protein complex carb meal 1-.5 hours before your workout. Dont rely on supplements whole food is a lot better
 
I would never suggest one to perform fasted cardio when the goal is to achieve lean mass. You want to shy away from every catabolic potential situation their is and promote your body ALWAYS having material for growth in it.
 
I agree, eat something lite like a protein drink or some other food item high in protein about an hour or two before the am Cardio. Let it begin to digest before you do. However, I may ask what is your purpose with cardio while trying to gain lean body mass? Why is this included? (Im not objecting, I am just curious).
 
kind of on a tangent but are you saying you cant do some cardio to burn fat while at the same time (different days of the week) lifting and on a bulking diet to build mass?
also i didnt see anyone else comment on his schedule where you lift weight 4 consecutive days... im not trying to act like i know anything but i thought that you should have atleast a day of no lifting between each lifting day
 
sexanoe said:
kind of on a tangent but are you saying you cant do some cardio to burn fat while at the same time (different days of the week) lifting and on a bulking diet to build mass?
also i didnt see anyone else comment on his schedule where you lift weight 4 consecutive days... im not trying to act like i know anything but i thought that you should have atleast a day of no lifting between each lifting day
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What LV was saying basically eliminating a "possiblity" of a stimulant inhibiting muscle mass. I understand completely where he was coming from. He wants to enhance the muscle mass side of the equation and try to eliminate any possible negatives to this goal.

And, I agree with his point to a degree. The degree I may waiver is just the difference in what the goal of the person wanting to do cardio as it relates to muscle mass wanted by the person and this varies from person to person (if you see what I am saying).

The fuel sources for cardio dependent on intensity and duration can get complicated.

With this said, if there is a adequate diet surplus when considering cardio as an option for exercise, yes one CAN gain muscle mass.

The opposite is true, however. If you eat more than you need even with cardio at adequate intensity levels and duration, you can still gain FAT WEIGHT, because the surplus calories can in affect erase the benefits cardio had given. This proves the importance of KNOWING YOUR DIET.

I advocate proper rest in-between workout sessions. The true growth occurrs outside the gym, not inside the gym.

Sexanoe, schedule rest days with your workout, give proper time for your body to recover. Do not follow a program that provides no rest, for the AVERAGE person this will only bring heartache.
 
Thank you for the advice Chillen. The more I thought about what you said, the more it makes sense. The main goal here is for me to retain as much calories as possible and not burn them. However, the only reason why I do keep cardio as part of my routine is so that I can strenghten my heart muscles and improve on my cardiovascular conditioning. Here is my workout schedules and my dieting.......

SUN- Legs and Shoulders. MON- AM Cardio (Intake creatine and have a toasted wheat bread with eggs. I take this every morning before I head out to the gym on my workout days but in my off days, I would replace the creatine drink with my protien shake. The protein shake is taken 3 times daily regardless.) Triceps Back. Tues- Off Wed- Off Thurs-Off FRI- Chest and Abs SAT- Biceps Abs and Cardio. My dieting other than my suppluments which would be weightgainer/Protien shake and creatine, I would also have pasta, wheat bread with tuna, eggs, lettuce, broccoli, peanut butter sandwich, Chicken Wings, Whole Chicken, Mash Potatoes (Varies at times) and White rice with beans. Any other recommendation would be greatly appreciated, thanks again!
 
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fitlatino8 said:
Thank you for the advice Chillen. The more I thought about what you said, the more it makes sense. The main goal here is for me to retain as much calories as possible and not burn them. However, the only reason why I do keep cardio as part of my routine is so that I can strenghten my heart muscles and improve on my cardiovascular conditioning. Here is my workout schedules and my dieting.......

SUN- Legs and Shoulders. MON- AM Cardio (Intake creatine and have a toasted wheat bread with eggs. I take this every morning before I head out to the gym on my workout days but in my off days, I would replace the creatine drink with my protien shake. The protein shake is taken 3 times daily regardless.) Triceps Back. Tues- Off Wed- Off Thurs-Off FRI- Chest and Abs SAT- Biceps Abs and Cardio. My dieting other than my suppluments which would be weightgainer/Protien shake and creatine, I would also have pasta, wheat bread with tuna, eggs, lettuce, broccoli, peanut butter sandwich, Chicken Wings, Whole Chicken, Mash Potatoes (Varies at times) and White rice with beans. Any other recommendation would be greatly appreciated, thanks again!
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You could make a diet/training journal in the correct portion of the forum. Where you could input diet and training data, and ask questions how often has you wish. This is your diary so you control what goes it it; however, alot of eyes watch these logs, and members tend to respond more, and I think you will get alot more support.

Just a suggestion for the Brotha!..............Name it Fit's Pit.....or something like this...........ROCK ON!

Let me know, and I can help ya there.....or what ever you choose......but I think its a good idea.........
 
Chillen said:
You could make a diet/training journal in the correct portion of the forum. Where you could input diet and training data, and ask questions how often has you wish. This is your diary so you control what goes it it; however, alot of eyes watch these logs, and members tend to respond more, and I think you will get alot more support.

Just a suggestion for the Brotha!..............Name it Fit's Pit.....or something like this...........ROCK ON!

Let me know, and I can help ya there.....or what ever you choose......but I think its a good idea.........
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Thanks again for the advice chillen! Fit's Pit eh? I like it!! I'm using that name, thanks again and if I ever do need anymore advices, I'll let u know!
 
Lets makes some NOISE in......"FITS PIT!" LOL

OKay.........rock it!
 
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