Dr Phil Show Bails Coward Florida Teen Adult for TV Ratings

Well when someones first suggestion to a family with kids who have special needs is to INSTITUTIONALIZE them, ....Yeah, I got a big problem with the d!ckhead. He doesn't understand anything, it's a bunch of crap, that sadly you have bought into.......

yeah theres a real solution :confused:

I agree gotfit. Dr. Phil is the quintessential tool.
 
I'm not saying I like the guy or I would go on it. I'm just saying if he helped someone, then wouldn't that be good?

If Dr. Phil is like this, imagine how much worst others must be in the same profession? I mean if Dr. Phil is supposed to be the best, then what is the norm and what is the low like?

Sadly, we're all too common in this day and age to institutionalize people who really have normal problems. Like ADD for example. I think South Park best explained it in that one episode where all the children were put on that ADD medication. If someone is mad, they're suppose to be. If some little kid is screaming and kicking and bullying other children, then clearly it has something to do with home life rather than just the kid messed up. If mom and dad are divorced and child is living with mom who works 11 hours a day, then clearly the child is going to be guided by outside influences which usually has a tendency to make children violent.
 
Well when someones first suggestion to a family with kids who have special needs is to INSTITUTIONALIZE them, ....Yeah, I got a big problem with the d!ckhead. He doesn't understand anything, it's a bunch of crap, that sadly you have bought into.......

I have a hard time believing that someone who has PhD. in Psychology doesn't understand anything. He was just a regular doctor before he got the show. Are you saying that you think all psychiatrists are useless and that people with emotional issues should all be institutionalized?
 
I have a hard time believing that someone who has PhD. in Psychology doesn't understand anything. He was just a regular doctor before he got the show. Are you saying that you think all psychiatrists are useless and that people with emotional issues should all be institutionalized?


Uhh degrees don't mean jack. I know award winning architects that couldn't design a tool shed. Anyone with financial resources can get a degree. You can't base how good someone is at ANY profession based on educational merit alone. A degress is simply a piece of paper that you paid for that allows you access and / or licensure in a particular field.
 
I'm not saying I like the guy or I would go on it. I'm just saying if he helped someone, then wouldn't that be good?

If Dr. Phil is like this, imagine how much worst others must be in the same profession? I mean if Dr. Phil is supposed to be the best, then what is the norm and what is the low like?

Yeah there are other bad folks in this area, but he has media that spread his pollution to people who know no better. NO ONE thinks "he's the best" who is familiar with dealing with some of the issues he talks about.

Sadly, we're all too common in this day and age to institutionalize people who really have normal problems. Like ADD for example. I think South Park best explained it in that one episode where all the children were put on that ADD medication. If someone is mad, they're suppose to be. If some little kid is screaming and kicking and bullying other children, then clearly it has something to do with home life rather than just the kid messed up. If mom and dad are divorced and child is living with mom who works 11 hours a day, then clearly the child is going to be guided by outside influences which usually has a tendency to make children violent.

That's just it, he isn't helping. It is an illusion... Here is a letter regarding that episode from all of the Major advocates of Aspergers/Autism:



anyway on the run will respond more later.
 
Uhh degrees don't mean jack. I know award winning architects that couldn't design a tool shed. Anyone with financial resources can get a degree. You can't base how good someone is at ANY profession based on educational merit alone. A degress is simply a piece of paper that you paid for that allows you access and / or licensure in a particular field.

Well, I do believe he has helped people, and I've taken a few good bits of advice from his show and his books.
 
I have a hard time believing that someone who has PhD. in Psychology doesn't understand anything. He was just a regular doctor before he got the show. Are you saying that you think all psychiatrists are useless and that people with emotional issues should all be institutionalized?

Well, my sister is a psychiatrist, and to be honest, many of them are more f'ed up than the rest of us.......

However, I think he is especially screwed up......He is just all about the money, not much better than an episode of Jerry Springer.....
 
Some of his viewpoints I do not like.

This I am able to weed out.

However, if someone were to have enough of the correct depth perception and were able to read between the lines and adapt and moderately change some of his contents (and attitude), one can be successful in obtaining rather beneficial knowledge.

This can go with anything we view. There are some values for one's self if it is look at properly. Always something to learn and something to adjust when learning to make it applicable to one's self. Perception is king of the hill, and mows down many mountains.

For example, he specifiies WILL POWER doesnt exist. I disagree. However, I do know it can be a major player in the circumference of a human being, and know that one's personal soup of motivation can be different from person to the next.


One must not be weak minded (and allow personality to disengage it) when looking at things, or one can miss things that can be learned from something one thinks there is nothing to be learned--in a positive manner.

Chillen
 
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Overall, I like him, but I find it funny he gives diet advice. He's certainly not obese, but he's no specimen either. Chillen I agree with you about the "willpower" issue too. I cringe when he says that.
Sometimes he goes into a little bible thumping too which I'm not crazy about.

I don't think the Jerry springer comparison is fair. His show isn't trashy like that at all.
 
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I agree with him on the willpower issue. One needs to make a conscious decision to change their lifestyle. Simple "willpower" will not suffice. It takes full determination, not just a pledge to do better without any plan to back it up.

"Willpower" is a cop out. It means avoiding the issue at hand. You try to change one behaviour without examining how to solve the whole problem. Changes made solely based on willpower will not last. The person will slip back into their old routine.
 
I agree with him on the willpower issue. One needs to make a conscious decision to change their lifestyle. Simple "willpower" will not suffice. It takes full determination, not just a pledge to do better without any plan to back it up.

"Willpower" is a cop out. It means avoiding the issue at hand. You try to change one behaviour without examining how to solve the whole problem. Changes made solely based on willpower will not last. The person will slip back into their old routine.

Well SP. We do have something we COMPLETELY disagree on, my friend.

There are many tags of definitions one can apply to the meaning of Will Power--and ones "perception" applied to Will Power is the key issue.

Perception is KING.

Correct Will Power can be a friend to lend a hand of change. DR. Phil is full bunk on this issue (but we must add in cetain phrases he adds with this opinion).

Concerning my personal soup of motivation, Will Power was the one "noodle" attached to the other "noodles" in my chicken soup, with my mind being the chicken nuggets, and the broth being my body.

May you never look at chicken soup the same. :) :)

When one gets up in the morning and doesnt feel like working out. Is it Will Power that makes the person do it or some "spin offs" of Will Power like desire, and other NOODLES?

How one looks at things makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE!

:)


Best wishes,


Chillen
 
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Well SP. We do have something we COMPLETELY disagree on, my friend.

There are many tags of definitions one can apply to the meaning of Will Power--and ones "perception" applied to Will Power is the key issue.

Perception is KING.

Correct Will Power can be a friend to lend a hand of change. DR. Phil is full bunk on this issue (but we must add in cetain phrases he adds with this opinion).

Concerning my personal soup of motivation, Will Power was the one "noodle" attached to the other "noodles" in my chicken soup, with my mind being the chicken nuggets, and the broth being my body.

May you never look at chicken soup the same. :) :)

:)


Best wishes,


Chillen

I would say that your definition of willpower is different than most. The average person's definition of will power is simple. "I'm going to do/not do this because I have to. I'm going to stick to it." They say it without any regard for why they're going to do it, how it's going to fit in with everything else in their life, what to do if they fail and so forth. If you're doing something without a reason, then the old habit will surely slip back in.

Your definition of willpower is all encompassing, so I agree with you. You're all for setting up a personal plan of success and sticking to it. The problem is, most people don't know how to really do that. They just try to change a behaviour without any real plan and wonder what went wrong when that initial impetus fades and they slip back into their old habits.
 
I agree with him on the willpower issue. One needs to make a conscious decision to change their lifestyle. Simple "willpower" will not suffice. It takes full determination, not just a pledge to do better without any plan to back it up.

"Willpower" is a cop out. It means avoiding the issue at hand. You try to change one behaviour without examining how to solve the whole problem. Changes made solely based on willpower will not last. The person will slip back into their old routine.


what??!!!???

willpower IS SYNONYMOUS with determination........

willpower:

will·pow·er or will pow·er (wĭl'pou'ər) Pronunciation Key
–noun

1.control of one's impulses and actions; self-control.

2.the trait of resolutely controlling your own behavior

3.The strength of will to carry out one's decisions, wishes, or plans
 
what??!!!???

willpower IS SYNONYMOUS with determination........

willpower:

will·pow·er or will pow·er (wĭl'pou'ər) Pronunciation Key
–noun

1.control of one's impulses and actions; self-control.

2.the trait of resolutely controlling your own behavior

3.The strength of will to carry out one's decisions, wishes, or plans

Okay, I must be working off a completely different definition of willpower than everyone else and I must sound totally crazy.

Here's where I'm coming from. Let's use smoking as an example. When someone tries to quit by using willpower alone it means that they just try to stop, no questions asked. They don't have a plan for how to stop, deal with cravings, deal with social situations that involve smoking or any other things that may get in their way. They just think if they try hard enough, it will work. Some people can do that, but most can't. They need a plan.

I guess your definition covers all the bases, but when people talk about willpower not working it means they didn't have an adequate plan before they started trying to change the behavior.
 
Okay, I must be working off a completely different definition of willpower than everyone else and I must sound totally crazy.

Here's where I'm coming from. Let's use smoking as an example. When someone tries to quit by using willpower alone it means that they just try to stop, no questions asked. They don't have a plan for how to stop, deal with cravings, deal with social situations that involve smoking or any other things that may get in their way. They just think if they try hard enough, it will work. Some people can do that, but most can't. They need a plan.

I guess your definition covers all the bases, but when people talk about willpower not working it means they didn't have an adequate plan before they started trying to change the behavior.

lol, well I understand what you are saying, Yes, you need a plan, and you should understand what your weakness is and your strengths to help you accomplish your goal. Saying you are going to do something blindly will lead you nowhere fast.....:)
 
SP. I always have your best interest at heart.

Likewise, I dont expect everyone to agree with how I feel; however, if anything remember "multiple angles of thought" (even on ideas you dont agree with) can spin off other benefiting thoughts when reading or hearing material---->and can stimulate the brain.

Being multidimensional will open the mind--so spend some time.

IMO, do not "necessarily" (dependent on what this is) be closed minded to ideas you completely disagree with. Weed it like you would a garden--you just may find something beneficial if your perception is open.

For example, I could "spin off" some positive benefits from what you said, by taking your base point premise and stimulating thought roots.



I will use myself as an example.

Earlier I said I completely disagreed with you.

You said in part:

One needs to make a conscious decision to change their lifestyle. Simple "willpower" will not suffice. It takes full determination, not just a pledge to do better without any plan to back it up. "Willpower" is a cop out.

And, lets say I change my opinion for a moment:


A conscious decision, example: Okay I am going to lose weight.

In my noodle soup (he, he, :)), I have will power, but man I feel like crap, demotivated, so I pull another noodle to assist me, determination, desire, OR revert to the progress I have made noodle, or the plan noodle.

Boy this perked me up, and INCREASED my Will Power.......... Willpower "may have" copped out, but the "other" noodles (he, he) enhanced it, and brought it back.

So, twisting things a small tad, makes you correct. See the picture? :) :)


Even negativity can be a positive if perception is on key.

Its just that how, why, or even when persons pull form always available resources (their noodle soup) can be different from one person to the next.

But leave your mind open to help yourself.


:)


Chillen
 
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Okay, I've got you. What I gathered is that willpower can be useful if you have the other "noodles" to go along with it. But the single noodle alone, without the others to back it up if there is a problem, will not suffice.
 
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