I didn't just make it up:yelrotflmao: I read it in the book "Burn the fat feed the muscle" by Tom Venuto.
Why do you think that is wrong?
Sport Diet/Nutrition Advice
- Thread starter JackFx
- Start date
Sport Fitness
I didn't just make it up:yelrotflmao: I read it in the book "Burn the fat feed the muscle" by Tom Venuto.
Why do you think that is wrong?
The differences in eating 6 meals or 3 meals a day is marginal when it comes to metabolism.
Though there are plenty of reasons for bodybuilders and lifters to split their meals up that way such as:
-insulin control
- easier time getting required protein
- easier to eat a high calorie diet
Though there are plenty of reasons for bodybuilders and lifters to split their meals up that way such as:
-insulin control
- easier time getting required protein
- easier to eat a high calorie diet
Ive read running burns muscle, 200gs of protein a day etc, does that mean its true? of course not.
People need to think critically and ask who wrote this? what are their qualifications? does it contradict with other sources? is it peer reviewed? do they have any particular agenda or bias? etc.
You either misinterpreted what he was saying, or what his saying is false.
I typed his name in google, he looks like a gimmick. A plethora of money grabbing opportunties. I wouldnt be suprised if the protein industry or some other powerfull industry has payed him to write something favourable for them.hmmmm
People need to think critically and ask who wrote this? what are their qualifications? does it contradict with other sources? is it peer reviewed? do they have any particular agenda or bias? etc.
You either misinterpreted what he was saying, or what his saying is false.
I typed his name in google, he looks like a gimmick. A plethora of money grabbing opportunties. I wouldnt be suprised if the protein industry or some other powerfull industry has payed him to write something favourable for them.hmmmm
No it's a very respected book, and he's very respected in the bodybuilding world.
Why do you think that is false?
Where is YOUR proof that we can store amino acids and that we shouldn't eat them every 3 hours?
I agree that your sources are for the most part reputable and I actually own a copy of burn the fat feed the muscle and agree that TOm Venuto has backed up the information he is sharing with convincing arguments. THe reason im making a big deal about this it could make a difference with people trying to lose a lot of weight, I myself lossed 100lbs and this method helped. Regardless of amino acid uptake or metabolism or whatever, it is a known fact that the absorptive phase is between 3 and 4hrs after a meal and insulin inhibits lipoprotien lipase and glycogen phosphorylase, In the post absorptive phase glycogen synthase and lipase are active, its simple as that. After this phase, the body must maintain blood glucose levels because the brain is an obligate glucose user because triacylglycerols cannot cross the blood brain barrier. The postabsorptive phase is essentially starvation mode. minimizing the postabsorptive phase, is the best way to keep your metabolic rate constant and at full potential. DO you think that its ok to eat right up until bedtime? do you think you should have your largest meal in the evening and not at breakfast? Do you think its ok to skip a meal or breakfast? If you dont agree with either of these statements then you need to look back at your sources and critically think about the reasons why these things occur and are relevant for yourself and not be dependent upon others who may or may not be right. Can you tell me scientifically why eating 3 meals aday is no differently then eating 6? Sometimes even reputable sources can be misleading. But im glad that your arguing a point because we both were able to develop a critical argument based upon. I'm not even saying that I am 100% right we still dont know all the effects and communication between hormones and how they work but Im just using known facts and generating an argument.
Last edited:
I do... what's wrong with it???
Im not sure what your point was, im not saying 6meals a day is bad (its good), what im saying is you dont need a heap of protein each meal to keep your muscles from catabolism.
Im not saying we can store amino acids, isnt that in my favor? Because they cant get stored all the extra amino acids will be excreted which is tough work on the body. (long term effects?). The onus is on you to prove we need lots of protein every meal, im not going to waste my time trying to convince the unconvincable..
Phate - youd be pleasantly suprised.
Im not saying we can store amino acids, isnt that in my favor? Because they cant get stored all the extra amino acids will be excreted which is tough work on the body. (long term effects?). The onus is on you to prove we need lots of protein every meal, im not going to waste my time trying to convince the unconvincable..
Phate - youd be pleasantly suprised.
yah sorry about the confusion i thought someone said that its not beneficial to eat 6 meals a day, I agree w/ matt in that plasma clearance rate wont change so when you eat your protein (amino acids) isnt that big of a deal, when you break em apart is just easier to digest cuz protein is the hardest thing for your body to break down.
I dont see where anyone said frequent meals "wasnt beneficial"; however, if one "chooses" to believe the frequent meals improve metabolism, buy all means it is their choice.
I happen to have the PDF version of "burn the fat feed the muscle", and there are only two things I disagree with him on:
1. His belief on frequent meals "improving metabolism".
2. And "some" cardio information he provides.
There has been a discussion on this before on this forum.
Best regards,
Chillen
Last edited:
Can you tell me about the cardio part? I haven't read it for a long time..