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[abear]

they provide no references to back up those statements so i would not give that link any respect.

Furthermore, taking more than five grams per day of creatine was associated with kidney and liver inflammation.

totally untrue.

The most common reason young athletes stop using the product is severe diarrhea and gastric distress

seen with those who take it incorrectly

Many athletes became predisposed to cramping and dehydration (even those promoting creatine supplements encourage hydration

again, from improper use

More scientific studies were done that showed positive effects in the exercise laboratory, but no positive effects with athletes in competition

references?

Touted as the "safe steroid," the use of creatine supplements was promoted as a powerful energy source for muscles.

pathetic

 

[evolution]

I only want to chime in on the references portion for those of you that are "creatine causes this because of studies...."

Go to to check out your questions before touting any surefire this or that.

 

[abear]

i agree

Ann Pharmacother. 2005 Jun;39(6):1093-6. Epub 2005 May 10. The effect of creatine intake on renal function. Pline KA, Smith CL. College of Pharmacy, Ferris State University, Big Rapids, MI, USA.

CONCLUSIONS: Creatine supplementation minimally impacts creatinine concentrations and renal function in young healthy adults. Although creatinine concentrations may increase after long periods of creatine supplementation, the increase is extremely limited and unlikely to affect estimates of creatinine clearance and subsequent dosage adjustments.
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Nutrition. 2004 Jul-Aug;20(7-8):609-14. Scientific basis and practical aspects of creatine supplementation for athletes. Volek JS, Rawson ES. Department of Kinesiology, University of Connecticut, Storrs, Connecticut 06269, USA.

In summary, the predominance of research indicates that creatine supplementation represents a safe, effective, and legal method to enhance muscle size and strength responses to resistance training.
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J Sports Med Phys Fitness. 2004 Dec;44(4):411-6. Is the use of oral creatine supplementation safe? Bizzarini E, De Angelis L. School of Sports Medicine, University of Trieste, Trieste, Italy.

This review focuses on the potential side effects caused by oral creatine supplementation on gastrointestinal, cardiovascular, musculoskeletal, renal and liver functions. No strong evidence linking creatine supplementation to deterioration of these functions has been found. In fact, most reports on side effects, such as muscle cramping, gastrointestinal symptoms, changes in renal and hepatic laboratory values, remain anecdotal because the case studies do not represent well-controlled trials, so no causal relationship between creatine supplementation and these side-effects has yet been established. The only documented side effect is an increase in body mass. Furthermore, a possibly unexpected outcome related to creatine monohydrate ingestion is the amount of contaminants present that may be generated during the industrial production. Recently, controlled studies made to integrate the existing knowledge based on anecdotal reports on the side effects of creatine have indicated that, in healthy subjects, oral supplementation with creatine, even with long-term dosage, may be considered an effective and safe ergogenic aid. However, athletes should be educated as to proper dosing or to take creatine under medical supervision.

personally, i feel teenageres have no use for creatine. heck, even someone new to training in their 30's or 40's have no use for creatine. but too many ppl want to use everything right when they start so we might as well educate them to proper use.

 

[MostWanted]

creatine.... ahhh yes... things you must first know about it...

it helps you retain water... meaning your muscles look bigger... you will get stronger and your muscles will repair quicker... yes you can get it naturally in red meats... should you take it? no...

there have be direct links to dehydration, liver failure and even near death experences with the supplement... i used it didnt like it... i know people who have passed out from dehydration from it... i know people who got big with it... but do you want to drink 2 gallons of water a day just so you dont pass out? do you want muscles that are really only retained water??

its your call, thats my 2 cents...

nowhere near true...i been taking it since i was the age of 14...now 16...nothing will happen ...you just have to take it in right amounts...

 

[MostWanted]

it does give some gastric problems though......if you do take it take it in phases...the loading phase take 5grams 5 times per day...and after the loading there is maintenance phase...take 5grams 2 times per day...and drink gallons of water to keep up with the demand...

 

[NewbyNaz]

nowhere near true...i been taking it since i was the age of 14...now 16...nothing will happen ...you just have to take it in right amounts...

That's just ignorant. 2 years straight you've been taking one supplement and never been off of it? I'm pretty sure that you need some time off of it. It is a great supplement, I use it, but you need to have periods where you are not using it. I do not know all the studies and information, but I just know that with myself, I put on 25lbs in 5 months, then got off of it and dropped down 6lbs but kept all of my strength. I went the next 3 months without, workouts went great, got back on for 3 months and now I just cycle every three months and it's great. That's my piece on it!

 

[Fil]

I'm going to toss in my 2-cents again regarding buffered creatine: kre-alkalyn. We've sold the stuff for years (in-store, we're not allowed to carry it on the Web), and people who take it say they get the same gains as creatine without dehydration or gastric distress. Lots of people are on the fence about it, but I take it and have never had any issues with it.

So if you're considering creatine, take a look at good kre-alkalyn brands out there.

 

[Cynic]

ok, I've been taking creatine since Oct. I get gastric upset if I take it raw, such as on my non-lifting days, or loading. If i have it with my PWO, I don't have any problem.

If you're taking it, you should be drinking lots of water, but two gallons is just straight-up an idiot's exhaggeration. A gallon on temperate days, on hot days, drink more.

I have no problems otherwise.

MissWhitney, you're talking nonsense. However, I'll concede that growing teenagers shouldn't be taking creatine.

 

[Linebacker9247]

Creatine is NOT they way to go. It fills your muscles with water, thus if you didn't take it and gaained same weight youd be stronger with out it because it biulds fake muscle. FOR LOOKS.

there are no PROVEN side affects. that doesn't mean there aren't any!!!

 

[evolution]

Creatine is NOT they way to go. It fills your muscles with water, thus if you didn't take it and gaained same weight youd be stronger with out it because it biulds fake muscle. FOR LOOKS.

there are no PROVEN side affects. that doesn't mean there aren't any!!!

I realize that you're new on this forum, but please look at dates before replying to them so that we can avoid drudging up months old posts.