Can i have some advice on my workout plan for weight loss

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MAIRENJIE

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HI
I WOULD JUST NEED AN ADVICE IF IM DOING THE RIGHT WORKOUT FOR WEIGHT LOSS
I WEIGHT 80KG IM 5FOOT7
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
I REACH FAILURE ON EACH SET FOR BICEPS AND CHEST TO REACH HYPERTROPHY

MY WORKOUT PLAN

WARM UP 15 MINUTES

BICEPS CONCENTRATION CURLS
10 REPS 4 SET

DUMBBELL SHRUG
50 REPS 3 SET

CABLE CHEST PRESS
10 REPS 4 SETS

DECLINE SIT UPS
30 REPS 4 SETS

SKIP ROPE
100 SKIPS END OF EACH TRAINING ABOVE

30 MINUTE JOG AFTER ALL ABOVE

2 DAYS WORKOUT 1 DAY REST
 
This is a poor training plan, it completely lacks balance and has a high probability of causing long term problems.

What is your goal, weight loss ? or muscle gain ? Strength? or a combination ?

more info is needed to help you effectively.


PS. Please don't shout.
 
This is a poor training plan, it completely lacks balance and has a high probability of causing long term problems.

What is your goal, weight loss ? or muscle gain ? Strength? or a combination ?

more info is needed to help you effectively.


PS. Please don't shout.


im trying to gain muscle and loose fat, more precisely tummy fat
i came up with this training is because it is said that weight training burn fat even after workout, and so i did
skip rope to bring oxygen into my system
jogging is for keeping my target heat rate between 138-145 for 40 minutes, 5 minute walking 30 minute jogging 5 minute walking, to burn more then usual
i finish all of this in 1 hour and 30 minutes
from what i experiencing is my weight hasn't changed a bit but my chest, biceps and trap is really showing then usual, building my confidence:p:p

all above is from researching by myself on bodybuilding.com
 
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ok, there is nothing wrong with the cardio portion of your training, although HIT would be a little more efficient, the problem is with the weight training portion of your program.

by lacking balance I mean that Antagonist and agonist muscles often occur in pairs, called antagonistic pairs. As one muscle contracts, the other relaxes. An example of an antagonistic pair is the biceps and triceps; to contract - the triceps relaxes while the biceps contracts to lift the arm. "Reverse motions" need antagonistic pairs located in opposite sides of a joint or bone, including abductor-adductor pairs and flexor-extensor pairs.

When these muscles are not trained equally, an imbalance forms and often causes joint and postural problems and muscle strains.

so for example you are hitting your biceps but not training your triceps at all which can specifically lead to problems with the elbow so you need more variety in your training, this can be done by doing a full body routine each training session or you can do a split training session working one set of muscles one day and a different set of muscles during the next training session.

the next problem I see is the 50 reps for shrugs, this indicates to me that the weight is way to light for you, bring the weight up and lower the reps.

next, there is no exercises in your routine for legs, not only will a built upper body look silly on stick legs but for the best long term calorie burn from weight training leg training is essential, the biggest muscles are in your legs with the added bonus of heavy leg training is the boosted testosterone production which is stimulated.

You also have no back exercises other than shrugs, you need to have some pull exercises to train your back and balance out the chest work.

As for loosing the tummy, that all comes down to diet and not the exercise you are doing.
 
ok, there is nothing wrong with the cardio portion of your training, although HIT would be a little more efficient, the problem is with the weight training portion of your program.

by lacking balance I mean that Antagonist and agonist muscles often occur in pairs, called antagonistic pairs. As one muscle contracts, the other relaxes. An example of an antagonistic pair is the biceps and triceps; to contract - the triceps relaxes while the biceps contracts to lift the arm. "Reverse motions" need antagonistic pairs located in opposite sides of a joint or bone, including abductor-adductor pairs and flexor-extensor pairs.

When these muscles are not trained equally, an imbalance forms and often causes joint and postural problems and muscle strains.

so for example you are hitting your biceps but not training your triceps at all which can specifically lead to problems with the elbow so you need more variety in your training, this can be done by doing a full body routine each training session or you can do a split training session working one set of muscles one day and a different set of muscles during the next training session.

the next problem I see is the 50 reps for shrugs, this indicates to me that the weight is way to light for you, bring the weight up and lower the reps.

next, there is no exercises in your routine for legs, not only will a built upper body look silly on stick legs but for the best long term calorie burn from weight training leg training is essential, the biggest muscles are in your legs with the added bonus of heavy leg training is the boosted testosterone production which is stimulated.

You also have no back exercises other than shrugs, you need to have some pull exercises to train your back and balance out the chest work.

As for loosing the tummy, that all comes down to diet and not the exercise you are doing.



Thanks for the advice, what your saying is i need to balance out more.
I noticed that i do have weak triceps, and i can try working out my back.
As for legs i used to weigh 100 kg, my calf and thigh are huge, but for testosterone i will try.
I use 13 kg on each hands for shrugs,second set is pain, last rep becomes like living hell, so is it still not enough?
I eat six eggs for proteins before workout, and some carbs for energy, and i have no idea what i should eat after workout.
Overall, i need to get professional training program from a trainer.
So much to do, so little time and no knowledge to how.:(:(
oh and i forgot to mention i'm 23, if this info is needed.
 
You will find a lot of the diet info you need in the sticky posts on the forum but basically you need to calculate what your daily calorie needs are based on your weight and activity level http://www.calculator.net/calorie-c...ghtmeter=180&ckg=60&cactivity=1.375&printit=0

keeping to a small calorie deficit to minimise muscle loss, it will be slow, but a faster loss with a larger deficit will put your muscle at risk. Lifting heavy with low to moderate reps will help to maintain muscle while dropping the fat, you are not going to gain muscle in a calorie deficit but your muscle may appear bigger as you become more defined.

protein when lifting should range between 1.2 - 1.6 grams per kg of bodyweight. there is 6 grams of protein in an average egg. but protein timing has been shown to be not as important as many think, therefore so long as you are getting enough each day it doesn't matter when you have it. After training you should have a small amount of carbs to replenish muscle glycogen.
 
Hello Mairenjie and welcome to the forum.

I agree with Trusylver in stating that your current training regime is lacking, not least in the amount of compound exercises that appear to be absent (those that utilise more than one muscle group). The more compound movements you incorporate, the greater your strength and muscular gains. Examples can include squats, barbell press and lat-pulldown. Moreover, you’re not currently performing any exercises that specifically target the muscles of your back or your shoulders (shoulder shrugs develop the traps, not the three heads of the shoulder). However, since you’re just starting off, don’t feel too bad, as even experienced gym users and personal trainers all started somewhere.

Taking things slightly back to the drawing board, I’d replace the cable chest press with either a barbell or Smith machine press, as the movement recruits your anterior deltoids (front shoulder muscle) and triceps as supporting muscles when lowering the weight towards your chest. The movement also primes the supporting muscles to be worked in isolation, once compound movements have been executed.

Equally, while back exercises chiefly recruit your rhomboids and lats, the movement to create contraction and extension in their fibres also relies upon contraction and extension of your bicep, as a supporting muscle. Again, the action can prime the biceps to be worked in isolation later in a session.

As for the legs, don’t make the mistake of thinking that they don’t need to be exercised. Although you consider that they already possess mass, the mass possessed isn’t exercised muscle. Despite their size, if you push them, you’ll no doubt find that they tire quickly as the fibres don’t have the endurance.

To demonstrate further, I weigh 20KG more than you do, Mairenjie, yet I’ll routinely exercise my quads, hamstrings and calves in order to ensure that they’re sufficiently conditioned to handle middle-distance running.

Moving on, I’d possibly re-evaluate how many shoulder shrugs and bicep curls you currently perform, choosing to incorporate them alongside some of the compound movements I’ve listed above. Remember, compound first, isolation second.

Concerning other points raised, I’d also agree with Trusylver in suggesting that when introducing a calorie deficit, with the aim of shedding excess fat, you cannot increase muscle mass. This is largely due to your calorific intake.

In order to increase size and mass, you need to consume a greater amount of calories than your TDEE. However, to ensure that increased calorie consumption doesn’t lead to increased fat storage, HIIT must be performed, as the activity creates a huge energy deficit while also maintaining a raised level of insulin sensitivity.

Taking into consideration that you’re just beginning, concentrate upon running a calorie deficit, while developing muscle that’s metabolically active, to provide a leaner, more athletic appearance.

Once you’ve attained that goal (through researching BMR/TDEE calculators), you can begin to add lean muscle mass. Moreover, your improving level of cardiovascular fitness, attained during your weight loss journey, will place you in greater stead to perform HIIT during your bulking phase.
 
You will find a lot of the diet info you need in the sticky posts on the forum but basically you need to calculate what your daily calorie needs are based on your weight and activity level http://www.calculator.net/calorie-c...ghtmeter=180&ckg=60&cactivity=1.375&printit=0

keeping to a small calorie deficit to minimise muscle loss, it will be slow, but a faster loss with a larger deficit will put your muscle at risk. Lifting heavy with low to moderate reps will help to maintain muscle while dropping the fat, you are not going to gain muscle in a calorie deficit but your muscle may appear bigger as you become more defined.

protein when lifting should range between 1.2 - 1.6 grams per kg of bodyweight. there is 6 grams of protein in an average egg. but protein timing has been shown to be not as important as many think, therefore so long as you are getting enough each day it doesn't matter when you have it. After training you should have a small amount of carbs to replenish muscle glycogen.


so basically is that i should cut down my calorie intake and start toning my whole body instead
 
Hello Mairenjie and welcome to the forum.

I agree with Trusylver in stating that your current training regime is lacking, not least in the amount of compound exercises that appear to be absent (those that utilise more than one muscle group). The more compound movements you incorporate, the greater your strength and muscular gains. Examples can include squats, barbell press and lat-pulldown. Moreover, you’re not currently performing any exercises that specifically target the muscles of your back or your shoulders (shoulder shrugs develop the traps, not the three heads of the shoulder). However, since you’re just starting off, don’t feel too bad, as even experienced gym users and personal trainers all started somewhere.

Taking things slightly back to the drawing board, I’d replace the cable chest press with either a barbell or Smith machine press, as the movement recruits your anterior deltoids (front shoulder muscle) and triceps as supporting muscles when lowering the weight towards your chest. The movement also primes the supporting muscles to be worked in isolation, once compound movements have been executed.

Equally, while back exercises chiefly recruit your rhomboids and lats, the movement to create contraction and extension in their fibres also relies upon contraction and extension of your bicep, as a supporting muscle. Again, the action can prime the biceps to be worked in isolation later in a session.

As for the legs, don’t make the mistake of thinking that they don’t need to be exercised. Although you consider that they already possess mass, the mass possessed isn’t exercised muscle. Despite their size, if you push them, you’ll no doubt find that they tire quickly as the fibres don’t have the endurance.

To demonstrate further, I weigh 20KG more than you do, Mairenjie, yet I’ll routinely exercise my quads, hamstrings and calves in order to ensure that they’re sufficiently conditioned to handle middle-distance running.

Moving on, I’d possibly re-evaluate how many shoulder shrugs and bicep curls you currently perform, choosing to incorporate them alongside some of the compound movements I’ve listed above. Remember, compound first, isolation second.

Concerning other points raised, I’d also agree with Trusylver in suggesting that when introducing a calorie deficit, with the aim of shedding excess fat, you cannot increase muscle mass. This is largely due to your calorific intake.

In order to increase size and mass, you need to consume a greater amount of calories than your TDEE. However, to ensure that increased calorie consumption doesn’t lead to increased fat storage, HIIT must be performed, as the activity creates a huge energy deficit while also maintaining a raised level of insulin sensitivity.

Taking into consideration that you’re just beginning, concentrate upon running a calorie deficit, while developing muscle that’s metabolically active, to provide a leaner, more athletic appearance.

Once you’ve attained that goal (through researching BMR/TDEE calculators), you can begin to add lean muscle mass. Moreover, your improving level of cardiovascular fitness, attained during your weight loss journey, will place you in greater stead to perform HIIT during your bulking phase.

so i should start toning my whole body with less calorie intake advices by trusylver
and what your saying is that loosing weight is priority, then i can start build building.
 
ok
so it seem that i have to go back to the drawing board.
never should have eaten those pizzas back in the day
i used to eat 2 pizza a day for straight 11 months back in the day
lol
 
Yes, Mairenjie, whole body toning will serve you better in the longer term, as you're less likely to suffer from muscle imbalances. Once your muscles have grown accustomed to resistance training, you can begin to introduce split resistance training. For example, a split training schedule may look like this:

Monday: Chest/Back & Cardio
Tuesday: Legs and Shoulders
Wednesday: Rest
Thursday: Arms & Cardio
Friday: Chest/Back & Cardio
Saturday: Legs & Shoulders
Sunday: Rest

On days that you perform cardio alongside resistance, perform resistance first. By performing resistance before cardio, you won't wholly deplete the glycogen stored in you muscles, meaning that both your resistance and cardio workouts will be far more productive.

For now, though, simply concentrate upon increasing your cardiovascular fitness and improving your muscular strength (compound movements), in order to provide you with a base from which to build.
 
Yes, Mairenjie, whole body toning will serve you better in the longer term, as you're less likely to suffer from muscle imbalances. Once your muscles have grown accustomed to resistance training, you can begin to introduce split resistance training. For example, a split training schedule may look like this:

Monday: Chest/Back & Cardio
Tuesday: Legs and Shoulders
Wednesday: Rest
Thursday: Arms & Cardio
Friday: Chest/Back & Cardio
Saturday: Legs & Shoulders
Sunday: Rest

On days that you perform cardio alongside resistance, perform resistance first. By performing resistance before cardio, you won't wholly deplete the glycogen stored in you muscles, meaning that both your resistance and cardio workouts will be far more productive.

For now, though, simply concentrate upon increasing your cardiovascular fitness and improving your muscular strength (compound movements), in order to provide you with a base from which to build.


One last thing, can you introduce me to a routine of what i should do
that i can follow right now so that i can prepare for future split resistance training.
And please let it be specific if possible, cause i have no idea what i should do for cardiovascular and strength training.
I apologize for all the trouble, and thank you sooooooo much for the opportunity.
Finally i can see myself a better and healthier person in the future.
 
There's no need to apologise, Mairenjie, since that's why the likes of Trusylver, myself and others exist upon the forum, to guide novices, providing them with the knowledge they need to be successful.

As for an introductory routine, I’d suggest that you perform resistance and cardio on alternate days, since its adherence will provide your muscles with 48 hours rest between sessions. Don’t underestimate the importance of rest days, either, since they’re equally as valuable to your development.

As for how a beginner routine should look, since you’ll be largely incorporating compound movements into whole body resistance sessions, the amount of sets performed throughout won’t be as heavily concentrated, as you’ll being lifting more weight overall, while concentrating upon the eccentric (lowering phase) of each movement.

Moreover, in order to ensure gains in strength and muscular shape, you should be choosing a weight that allows you to reach failure after 8-12 reps.

A beginner’s all over body routine should look something like this:

Barbell/Smith machine press (2x8-12 reps)

Lat pull down (3x8-12reps)

Upright row (3x8-12 reps)

Barbell shoulder press (2x8-12reps)

Romanian Deadlift (3x8-12 reps)

Barbell/Smith/Hack squat (3x8-12 reps)

Calf raise/press (3x15 reps)

Incline lying chest fly (2x8-12reps)

Bicep curl with dumbbell (2x8-12 reps)

Cable machine tricep pushdown (3x8-12 reps)

Seated shoulder press with dumbbell (3x8-12reps)

Lying plank (4x30s)

Although the above is largely representative, don’t feel too disheartened if you’re unable to execute all of the sets/reps, as increasing strength and endurance of the muscle fibres will quickly allow you to accomplish such a routine.

Concerning cardio, your immediate goal is to increase how efficiently your body is able to utilise oxygen during exercise, with the ultimate aim of allowing steady state cardio to be maintained over a 30-40 minute period. Such an achievement also increases your stamina, placing you in a far better position to incorporate HIIT.

As for beginner cardio routines, upon the assumption that you’re exercising in the gym, alternate cardio between the elliptical trainer, stationary bikes, the StairMaster (highly recommended) and the treadmill. In doing so, you’ll gain a feel for them all, something that’ll prove important when it comes to eventually performing HIIT.
 
There's no need to apologise, Mairenjie, since that's why the likes of Trusylver, myself and others exist upon the forum, to guide novices, providing them with the knowledge they need to be successful.

As for an introductory routine, I’d suggest that you perform resistance and cardio on alternate days, since its adherence will provide your muscles with 48 hours rest between sessions. Don’t underestimate the importance of rest days, either, since they’re equally as valuable to your development.

As for how a beginner routine should look, since you’ll be largely incorporating compound movements into whole body resistance sessions, the amount of sets performed throughout won’t be as heavily concentrated, as you’ll being lifting more weight overall, while concentrating upon the eccentric (lowering phase) of each movement.

Moreover, in order to ensure gains in strength and muscular shape, you should be choosing a weight that allows you to reach failure after 8-12 reps.

A beginner’s all over body routine should look something like this:

Barbell/Smith machine press (2x8-12 reps)

Lat pull down (3x8-12reps)

Upright row (3x8-12 reps)

Barbell shoulder press (2x8-12reps)

Romanian Deadlift (3x8-12 reps)

Barbell/Smith/Hack squat (3x8-12 reps)

Calf raise/press (3x15 reps)

Incline lying chest fly (2x8-12reps)

Bicep curl with dumbbell (2x8-12 reps)

Cable machine tricep pushdown (3x8-12 reps)

Seated shoulder press with dumbbell (3x8-12reps)

Lying plank (4x30s)

Although the above is largely representative, don’t feel too disheartened if you’re unable to execute all of the sets/reps, as increasing strength and endurance of the muscle fibres will quickly allow you to accomplish such a routine.

Concerning cardio, your immediate goal is to increase how efficiently your body is able to utilise oxygen during exercise, with the ultimate aim of allowing steady state cardio to be maintained over a 30-40 minute period. Such an achievement also increases your stamina, placing you in a far better position to incorporate HIIT.

As for beginner cardio routines, upon the assumption that you’re exercising in the gym, alternate cardio between the elliptical trainer, stationary bikes, the StairMaster (highly recommended) and the treadmill. In doing so, you’ll gain a feel for them all, something that’ll prove important when it comes to eventually performing HIIT.

thats a days routine?
if not then how to seperate them and when should i have rest days
 
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As I'd stated, when beginning, you should alternate the days that you perform cardio and resistance. However, as both your cardio endurance and muscular strength increase, you should seek to increase levels of both.

To ensure that focus is placed upon the eccentric (lowering) phase during resistance workouts, you should be aiming to take 2-3 seconds to lower the weight to its starting position. In doing so, you'll be creating microscopic tears in the muscle fibres, something that will lead to your ability to progressively overload the muscle (lifting heavier weights).

Nonetheless, a beginners routine for the first 6-8 weeks should look something like this:

Monday: 3o minutes cardio
Tuesday: Resistance.
Wednesday: Rest
Thursday: 30 minutes cardio
Friday: Resistance
Saturday: Rest
Sunday: 30 minutes cardio.

For the first six 6-8 weeks, until your fitness and endurance increase sufficiently, every third day, allow a day of rest. In doing so, you'll be providing your muscles with at least 48 hours rest in between workouts.

Most importantly, though, after both cardio and resistance exercise, aim to consume a meal that is balanced in both protein and carbohydrate, in order to help repair damaged muscle fibres and to replace depleted glycogen reserves.
 
You are doing cardio, you also have to concentrate on diet (nutrition).. here I would like to recommend you some weight management tips:
  • Eat a healthy, well-balanced diet.
  • Balance physical activity with diet to maintain your desired weight. Aerobic exercise will help increase muscle tissue and burn calories.
  • Gradually adjust your eating habits to encourage a permanent lifestyle change. You may need counseling and behavior modification to change your diet.
  • Avoid alcohol, or drink in moderation.
 
That workout program is not very good. I agree mostly with what MrNiceGuy says but I would to full body workouts instead of splits 3x/week.

Upper body workouts on their own especially on women and beginners are not very effective for weight loss. Since there is little muscle mass.
 
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Hi I thought I'd write something on this forum because I'm interested in what was said about antagonistic muscle groups. I've started a program that uses this effect to burn calories and build muscle without cardio, weights or getting hot in workouts. Its only been a while but I'm unlikely to hurt myself as you imagine weights and resistance .. I pulled a muscle in the gym a few years ago that stopped me going .. Hence why I put the weight on.
 
Hi Janey,

I've just joined the group and came across your post that was interesting. Could you explain more?
 
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