Body cleanses?

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Sara06 said:
Honestly? I was hoping it'd get rid of all the chemicals and crap I've ingested as well as *TMI alert* There's suppose to be all this yucky stuff stuck in your colon that will come out like black tar and it's supposedly really toxic. Though after reading more, I've read that it's rare for that to actually happen.
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Well... the chemicals you ingest can't be dealth with by cleaning your colon unfortunately. If the blood do not absorb them through the colon wall then you will shit them out, there is no "hanging around chillin' in the colon causing a rucus" unless you have a very rare disease. If they do get into your blood and they aren't supposed to be there then they either get peed out or they do their damage and there ain't no thang you can do about it... if only we could eat tons of fresh tuna and then do a colon cleansing and be rid of them heavy metals... I would simply love it!

And... like.. the black yucky stuff is probably feces, feces comes out aaaall on its own, don't you worry about that :) I really suggest reading the article on science-based-medicine I linked to above. Not that I'm saying you should take my word, but read it and form your own opinion, at least it will be better informed :)
 
.. Thanks to you I know have this image of those Scrubbing Bubbles in my colon...
 
A detox program can help the body's natural cleaning process by:
1) Resting the organs through fasting;
2) Stimulating the liver to drive toxins from the body;
3) Promoting elimination through the intestines, kidneys and skin;
4) Improving circulation of the blood; and
5) Refueling the body with healthy nutrients.

Detoxification works because it addresses the needs of individual cells, the smallest units of human life.
 
Pomme said:
A detox program can help the body's natural cleaning process by:[list of ridiculous claims removed]
Detoxification works because it addresses the needs of individual cells, the smallest units of human life.
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Please provide links to legitimate resources to back up your claims? I'm especially interested in the whole "cellular detox" argument.
 
Pomme said:
A detox program can help the body's natural cleaning process by:
1) Resting the organs through fasting;
2) Stimulating the liver to drive toxins from the body;
3) Promoting elimination through the intestines, kidneys and skin;
4) Improving circulation of the blood; and
5) Refueling the body with healthy nutrients.

Detoxification works because it addresses the needs of individual cells, the smallest units of human life.
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I love how I can find WHERE you get this information. I found the website. I won't post it cause it's junk but I'm curious..

1) Exactly what organs are resting? Supposedly you are stimulating the organs who eliminates toxins so the ones resting ust be...um..the other organs that keeps us alive? I don't want my heart resting..that's called DEAD.

2) The liver already eliiminates toxins by breaking them down. It's what it does. It's what it is designed for and has been doing for..oh...eons. So why do you think it suddenly needs help?

3) See #2

4) This one I'm curious about. Exactly what causes this increased circulation? Science plz.

5) I do that with something called eating.


Sorry Pomme but when I see something completely stupid, I tend to become sarcastic.
 
Pomme said:
A detox program can help the body's natural cleaning process by:
1) Resting the organs through fasting;
2) Stimulating the liver to drive toxins from the body;
3) Promoting elimination through the intestines, kidneys and skin;
4) Improving circulation of the blood; and
5) Refueling the body with healthy nutrients.

Detoxification works because it addresses the needs of individual cells, the smallest units of human life.
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Oh wow, what a ***load of horse****.. oh sorry.. let me take a serious look at this.

1: Who said the organs need resting? did they evolve to rest? do we have many diseases that are caused by organ-fatigue-syndrome? let me help you, noone, no, no, no.

2: Again, which toxins, how are they driven from the body, where do the toxins come out, what does the toxins do if left in?

3: Elimination? lmao.. of what?

4: Actually, no, the body tends to restrict bloodflow due to the decreased heat generation with the little-to-no heat generated by being on a "cleansing" diet thing. This is the same reason that people on VLCD's freeze on their hands and feed, the body restricts bloodflow to conserve heat to the torso where the vital organs are, this isn't a good (nor bad) thing, it just doesn't have anything to do with improving blood circulation.

5: Which healthy nutrients? Are you saying that ALL cleansing diets (with VASTLY different nutritional content) refuels the healthy nutrients? which nutrients? again... which nutrients?

Oh wait.. there are so many things wrong with your last sentence that I don't even know where to start. Human life isn't single celled, sorry... the smallest unit of individual human life is a single human being. Unless you are going to make a COMPLETE fool of yourself and claim that due to souls or some other nonsense a single sperm cell is human life then .. wrong... also, the smallest unit of life isn't a single cell by definition, since noone can even really agree on a definition of what is "alive" (look up virus for a good example of baffling things) but say... what about the needs of the organelles? the "organs of the cell".. what about their needs? oh... do you even know what an organelle is? Now were you knowledgeable about biology you could probably counterargue with something about the definition of an organelle but... I won't hold my breath...

I am still waiting for someone to show me a single double blinded placebo controlled study showing ANY efficacy of cleansing or detox...

Just sayin'

P.S. So happy to be a non-moderator, not representing anything, able to be snarky as needed :p
 
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clever_plant said:
And... like.. the black yucky stuff is probably feces, feces comes out aaaall on its own, don't you worry about that :) I really suggest reading the article on science-based-medicine I linked to above. Not that I'm saying you should take my word, but read it and form your own opinion, at least it will be better informed :)
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Well, Unless you have a terrible diet, then some metamucil gets all that "crap" out over the course of a week and you realize it's about time for a change of pace :puke: :D
 
Who pissed in your cheerios?!

If people want a place to invest/find out about stupid diets/products then there are pleeeeenty of assholes on the internet who will happily help them out :)

Just not here, I'm afraid.
 
would you hire a personal trainer who weighs 400 lbs?

just pay attention to who you take advice from in regards to nutrition
 
You are right. If you do not believe the facts we have stated about detox, then ask your doctor. I am sure they will say the same.
 
"3: Elimination? lmao.. of what?"

Candida,highly processed foods and additives,chemical flavorings like MSG and aspartame,food colorings,pesticide residue from nonwashed non organic produce,mercury


"Actually, no, the body tends to restrict bloodflow due to the decreased heat generation with the little-to-no heat generated by being on a "cleansing" diet thing. This is the same reason that people on VLCD's freeze on their hands and feed, the body restricts bloodflow to conserve heat to the torso where the vital organs are, this isn't a good (nor bad) thing, it just doesn't have anything to do with improving blood circulation."

actually restrictive bloodflow is caused from blood cells losing protons due to acid eating away at them,the protons "positive charges" is what keeps blood cells seperarted and what keeps them not "clumpy" and allows them to move efficiently through the veins,the heat issue you mentioned is only based on external environment and cleansing would have nothing to do with this


"5: Which healthy nutrients? Are you saying that ALL cleansing diets (with VASTLY different nutritional content) refuels the healthy nutrients? which nutrients? again... which nutrients?"

any non bad fats that arent stuck to your intestinal walls,this built up feces stuck inside your intestines prevents nutrients that can potentially be converted into energy to be able to travel efficiently to organs that need them because the intestines are clogged

"Oh wait.. there are so many things wrong with your last sentence that I don't even know where to start. Human life isn't single celled, sorry... the smallest unit of individual human life is a single human being. Unless you are going to make a COMPLETE fool of yourself and claim that due to souls or some other nonsense a single sperm cell is human life then .. wrong... also, the smallest unit of life isn't a single cell by definition, since noone can even really agree on a definition of what is "alive" (look up virus for a good example of baffling things)"

mitochondria inside of a cell have there own dna and can reproduce inside a cell but they need the host to reproduce so actually a cell is the smallest form of life.Same thing with viruses,same thing with prions,they cant live without a host so they cant be the smallest form of life


"1: Who said the organs need resting? did they evolve to rest? do we have many diseases that are caused by organ-fatigue-syndrome? let me help you, noone, no, no, no"

actually different organs are more efficient during certain times of the day,the only organ that doesnt take a break or need rest is your heart
 
I'm sorry, I believe we will have to just agree to disagree here. We have stated our side and our facts, you are stating what you view are your facts.

Please consult a doctor before trying any of this in the first place. Thank you.



due to the nasty turn this thread has taken, I am closing it down.
 
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