Andro

Not the most academic source, but the guy seems like he knows what he's talking about ( )

Some side effects of andro include:
Androstenedione supplementation may lead to elevated plasma estrogen concentration, which can lead to breast development in men, breast cancer, and pancreatic cancer
Using Androstenedione may lead to kidney and liver damage
You may also experience acne problems and oily skin - acne is associated with testosterone
It can lead to premature baldness in men
Taking Androstenedione can enlarge prostates, reduce sperm production and increase aggression
Can also lead to testicles shrinkage, infertility, loss of libido, and even impotence. **
Androstenedione can disrupt female menstrual cycles
Deepens voice and increase facial hair growth, and can also cause enlarged clitoris
Can lower HDL cholesterol (the good kind

** You may wonder why your this could happen. When the need for testosterone is satisfied, signal is sent to the hypothalamus and secretion is stopped. When you add prohormones in to your system, a similar effect takes place. So instead, your body doesn't get the chance to take its natural course of action.

This can be dealt with through cycling. Most information you read recommends 6 weeks on and 2 weeks off. However, it's in your best interest to take a equally long off period, or even longer off period. This gives your natural systems a chance to recover. I know a lot of people won't agree with me on this, but hey, it's just my 2 cents! In the end, it's still your choice. ;-)

Side note: It's not recommended for teenagers to use Andro, since alterations in hormone balance at a young age has adverse effects. If you're under 18, you should not use Androstenedione prohormones. Besides, at such a young age, you're full of raging hormones. ;-) I recommend you using creatine with whey protein - it works wonders. Read our articles on creatine and protein powder comparison.

The biggest drop in testosterone levels occur in your mid to late twenties, so this is a good time period to try out Andro if you're thinking about it. I sincerely hope that you fully understand the benefits and the possible side effects of Andro before purchasing.
 
As soon as I read the part about Anrdo that said "May cause men to develop breasts because if the estrogen" I knew it wasn't for me.... :11doh:
 
I know what it is smith, I'm just letting you know where I stand. I'm no one to judge believe me, you asked for opinions. Now don't be upset that they're not what you were expecting.

I wish you all the luck in the world with it, it's just not something I would do.
 
Androdiol doesn't come in grape flavor.

Smith, don't you have some ^^^^ from the supplement store that's just called "Andro"? I think I may have seen that stuff here and there.
 
SmithMachine said:
So you guys think this is as potent as normal steroids??? how is it even legal then?
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So what you're saying is you don't even know what you're putting in your body and the side-effects?

I'm sorry (and this is no where near a cheer for steroids) but at least AAS have been researched long term and we know the side-effects fully. It seems everyone jumps on the pro-hormones like they're okay because they're not a steroid and we really have no idea what in the world we're injesting except a bunch of long chemical names.
 
SmithMachine said:
So you guys think this is as potent as normal steroids??? how is it even legal then?
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because Australia is still catching up to all these 'tricks' the supp makers use.

5 years ago you could legally buy pro-hormones and pro-steroids here, even at GNC. That's why I even have some experience. I tried a few things that are not illegal, including 4-androstenendiol.

I specifically remember the warning on the bottle: DO NOT TAKE THIS IF YOU HAVE ANY HISTORY OF PROSTATE CANCER IN YOUR FAMILY.

pretty scary really.

I think everyone's point here is that you're buying stuff you have no clue about. it might be placebo, it might actually have stuff that works...and it might work against you.

Trust me, you don't want to grow breasts. If you do we'll all call you Chyna.
 
Oh man what is this andor stuff - is it the stuff they put and women start getting beards and deep voices while men get women's boobs and girlie voices?
 
I can understand the huge urge to gain muscles, but I agree with everybody else in this topic... Your a young dude you don't need that kind of stuff right now (at least).

Just start eating more and find a routine that works for you... you'll put on muscle.
 
Let's say you have decided, SM, that the side effects are worth the gains even with our information. It's fine, that's your decision to make. But to further inform you, you're no where near the level of fitness that I would advocate using these type of supplements. Once you've decided you're willing to take them, they're a tool in your bag. And imo, you jumped the gun and used it too soon. This decision, forgetting your health, will hinder results later on.
 
jeez guys its not like i am right into this ^^^^....i am just trying it out and i have bought one bottle. I will also say that this is probably the most expensive supplement i have ever bought when it comes to volume, price and over all use expectancy of the thing. i ain't gonna buy another bottle of this and am just gonna stick to protien powder and wait till i can cycle on creatine again.
 
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