are these man boobs or pecs?

this is my first post and ive been self conscious about my chest for a while. i go to the gym mon-fri to get bigger for football and i was wondering whether these are man boobs or pecs. ive heard from different people that they are pecs and others man boobs. so i was wondering what your opinion was and what i should do to shape them to be more like legit pecs. and i also 5'8 and 140 pounds. some of the pics im flexing others i not
 

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They look like pecs with excessive body fat. Nothing that weight training and some cardio can't fix. Also- what does your diet look like?
 
i eat a lot of protein in each meal with about 500 ml of water in every meal. eat ever few hours of about 300-400 calories each so i intake about 1800 a day. certain days they look more muscular such as yesterday, but today they seemed a bit pudgier then usual since i worked my chest yesterday. But yes i would like to reduce the fat on top cus they do have the shape of pecs i think
 
i eat a lot of protein in each meal with about 500 ml of water in every meal. eat ever few hours of about 300-400 calories each so i intake about 1800 a day. certain days they look more muscular such as yesterday, but today they seemed a bit pudgier then usual since i worked my chest yesterday. But yes i would like to reduce the fat on top cus they do have the shape of pecs i think

I meant... give us an example of a typical day of eating. I bet a lot of it has to do with your diet. And like 01 asked: are you working out just your chest?
 
What happens when you jiggle them?
like jump up and down?

and then i eat pretty healthy. no soda or sugar, or junk food.
morning: low fat yogurt and granola, or a banana and a balance bar
snack: trail mix/ nuts
lunch: turkey sandwich on whole wheat with a slice of cheese and veggies. no mayo or mustard though.
snack: fruit
then i work out by lifting weights and playing basketball for about an hour and a half combined
after workout: EAS shake with a balance bar
dinner: piece of lean chicken with veggies and brown rice

and i dont only do chest
mondays: bench press/flys/biceps/incline bench/triceps
tuesdays: legs (squat deadlift, etc)
wednesday:back/shoulders/bench press/decline bench/biceps/triceps
thursday:legs(same as tuesday)
and i do cardio everyday by playing basketball or treadmill
 
like jump up and down?

and then i eat pretty healthy. no soda or sugar, or junk food.
morning: low fat yogurt and granola, or a banana and a balance bar
snack: trail mix/ nuts
lunch: turkey sandwich on whole wheat with a slice of cheese and veggies. no mayo or mustard though.
snack: fruit
then i work out by lifting weights and playing basketball for about an hour and a half combined
after workout: EAS shake with a balance bar
dinner: piece of lean chicken with veggies and brown rice

and i dont only do chest
mondays: bench press/flys/biceps/incline bench/triceps
tuesdays: legs (squat deadlift, etc)
wednesday:back/shoulders/bench press/decline bench/biceps/triceps
thursday:legs(same as tuesday)
and i do cardio everyday by playing basketball or treadmill

Check out how much sugar is in that yogurt, same with the balance bar. I'd also add some more protein to your snacks. I can't really understand your program but it sort of looks like... a full .. no nevermind it's not that clear.

I think that if you put a weight training program together that was more structured and hit all of your major muscles 3 times a week and continued to do cardio at least 5 days a week.. you may start to see results. Check out this article too, I found it quite interesting:
 
Check out how much sugar is in that yogurt, same with the balance bar. I'd also add some more protein to your snacks. I can't really understand your program but it sort of looks like... a full .. no nevermind it's not that clear.

I think that if you put a weight training program together that was more structured and hit all of your major muscles 3 times a week and continued to do cardio at least 5 days a week.. you may start to see results. Check out this article too, I found it quite interesting:

any tips on a better weight training program?
 
Also, you've said you do workout the rest of your body. Do you find you equally strain each of your muscle groups? I know a lot of people with chest strength will be benching big numbers but doing a lot less with every other muscle group, is that the case my any chance?
 
Sure. Do you want to do full body training or split? How many days do you want to dedicate to weight training?
split. but in the summer i am going to start doing full body training to change things up. so both would be helpful if you can give me tips. and i typically lift mon-thurs. sometimes friday. but cardio at least 5-6 days a week.

and to trainer's question. i do work out and strain all of my muscle groups as equally as possible. one mistake i was making was not working my shoulders and back, but now i am starting to dedicate a day to working that muscle group.
 
split. but in the summer i am going to start doing full body training to change things up. so both would be helpful if you can give me tips. and i typically lift mon-thurs. sometimes friday. but cardio at least 5-6 days a week.

and to trainer's question. i do work out and strain all of my muscle groups as equally as possible. one mistake i was making was not working my shoulders and back, but now i am starting to dedicate a day to working that muscle group.

Here are a few combinations:

Mon- Chest/shoulders/tri's
Tues-legs
Wedn-Back/bi's

Mon-Chest/Back
Tues- legs
Wedn-Shoulders/tri's and bi's

Mon-Chest
Tues-Legs
Wedn-Back
Thurs-Shoulders/bi's and tri's

Full Body- (a couple of each)
Mon-Legs/chest/back/shoulders/arms
Wedn-Legs/chest/back/shoulders/arms
Fri-Legs/chest/back/shoulders/arms

What do you think? Do you like any of these?
 
Here are a few combinations:

Mon- Chest/shoulders/tri's
Tues-legs
Wedn-Back/bi's

Mon-Chest/Back
Tues- legs
Wedn-Shoulders/tri's and bi's

Mon-Chest
Tues-Legs
Wedn-Back
Thurs-Shoulders/bi's and tri's

Full Body- (a couple of each)
Mon-Legs/chest/back/shoulders/arms
Wedn-Legs/chest/back/shoulders/arms
Fri-Legs/chest/back/shoulders/arms

What do you think? Do you like any of these?

i like your second workout combo. and the full body workout. thank you so much these are really helpful. i just have a question though. should i not do legs on thursdays and take a day off?
 
i like your second workout combo. and the full body workout. thank you so much these are really helpful. i just have a question though. should i not do legs on thursdays and take a day off?

It's totally up to you. I think that if you work hard on those 3 days that'll be fine but if you'd like to do legs twice a week you certainly can.
 
Keep us posted on your results.

I hate to jump on ya, because I feel like you've given a lot of good advice throughout the forum, however I don't think I would advise any kind of split routine to someone who's new to training and looking to "get big for football".
I can't think of many instances in football (or life for that matter) where you only need strength in one half of your body, so why would you train that way?

I say you definitely START with a full-body routine incorporating overhead and bench presses, front & back squats (LOTS OF SQUATS), deadlifts, and cleans. The majority of your strength comes from your bodies ability to transfer movement from your legs and through your core - your training should incorporate that as much as possible. "Bi's and Tri's" should not be a staple in your routine, however you can throw them onto the end of a workout if you feel it's necessary.

Finally, if you're looking to get big, you'll probably need to eat a lot more than 1800 calories, depending on your current size. You can certainly get stronger on that amount of food, but you wont get much bigger.
 
I hate to jump on ya, because I feel like you've given a lot of good advice throughout the forum, however I don't think I would advise any kind of split routine to someone who's new to training and looking to "get big for football".
I can't think of many instances in football (or life for that matter) where you only need strength in one half of your body, so why would you train that way?

I say you definitely START with a full-body routine incorporating overhead and bench presses, front & back squats (LOTS OF SQUATS), deadlifts, and cleans. The majority of your strength comes from your bodies ability to transfer movement from your legs and through your core - your training should incorporate that as much as possible. "Bi's and Tri's" should not be a staple in your routine, however you can throw them onto the end of a workout if you feel it's necessary.

Finally, if you're looking to get big, you'll probably need to eat a lot more than 1800 calories, depending on your current size. You can certainly get stronger on that amount of food, but you wont get much bigger.


I appreciate your concern. Did you read post #12 though?

A workout split is a term given to how you split up your workout. More like: "What days you do what muscle group". For example, doing biceps back and legs on Monday, and doing triceps shoulders and chest on Wednesday or Thursday is a workout split. You are still covering all of the major muscles once a week.

In any case- read post #12 again.
 
I appreciate your concern. Did you read post #12 though?

A workout split is a term given to how you split up your workout. More like: "What days you do what muscle group". For example, doing biceps back and legs on Monday, and doing triceps shoulders and chest on Wednesday or Thursday is a workout split. You are still covering all of the major muscles once a week.

In any case- read post #12 again.

I re-read post 12, but still stick to what I said. Granted, he might prefer a split and you provided decent enough help with that - props to you on providing advice based on his request.

However, I fail to see the need for anyone new to training to split anything up. From a functional physical strength perspective, is there ever a time where you need your chest to function at max capacity without the use of your core, legs, back, etc?

Honestly, I'm sorry if my post came across as an attack on what you posted, I didn't mean it that way. I really do think you offer a lot of good information and you're an asset to the forum. Plus I think you'r avatar is cool, and I might have those same sunglasses :) - I just had to chime on the general ineffeciency and lack of applicability of a split routine when training for function.
 
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