Wow, how tall are you? Your chest is the same size as mine but your waist is tiny, that must make for a pretty impressive back
Do you have back pics?
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Wow, how tall are you? Your chest is the same size as mine but your waist is tiny, that must make for a pretty impressive back
Do you have back pics?
I need to explain just a tad. I took my measurement this morning, but this was after a carb up the day before with lots of water (yesterday was a full body workout in the morning), and I tend to swell like a fricken balloon when my carbs are high, and my chest is normally around 45 (actually just shy or about 44) during the day on average. I just recently switched from splits (which for me have done me well), to a full body 3 days a week to provide a shock effect, and plan to stay with it long enough to see what results I get (4 to 6 weeks or shorter, just depends). Im currently zig-zagging my calories and messen' around with the carbs to see how my body responds. Just let you know I was full of water this morning (no poken' fun now...
), and this is the reason, its normally isnt this size. I was really puffy or hada puffy look, but it generally goes away in 24 hours, and doesnt effect my leaness at all.New Plan!!!
I've been given a new plan to work with, unfortunately the MP has gone which is a shame, I liked that, but this routine looks tougher than the last and I'm looking forward to it
Workout A..............Reps............Rest
Front Squats..........3,3,3,6,10.....60
Romanian Deadlift....10,10,10.......0
Static Lunge...........10,10,10.......90
Calf Raise...............8,8..............45
Workout B.......................Reps.............Rest
DB Chest Press.................5,5,5,8..........0
BB T-Row........................5,5,5,8..........60
Elevated Push Up Iso Hold..3x45sec.........0
Bent Over Cable Pulldown...10,10,10........60
Internal/External Rotation...10,10,10,10....45
Workout C.....................Reps..............Rest
Deadlift.........................3,3,3,6,10......60
Step Up........................10,10,10.........0
Split Squat....................10,10,10........90
Good Morning..................8,8................45
Now I'm off to find out what half these things are
It's been designed with improving my deadlift in mind
I've been given a new plan to work with, unfortunately the MP has gone which is a shame, I liked that, but this routine looks tougher than the last and I'm looking forward to it
Workout A..............Reps............Rest
Front Squats..........3,3,3,6,10.....60
Romanian Deadlift....10,10,10.......0
Static Lunge...........10,10,10.......90
Calf Raise...............8,8..............45
Workout B.......................Reps.............Rest
DB Chest Press.................5,5,5,8..........0
BB T-Row........................5,5,5,8..........60
Elevated Push Up Iso Hold..3x45sec.........0
Bent Over Cable Pulldown...10,10,10........60
Internal/External Rotation...10,10,10,10....45
Workout C.....................Reps..............Rest
Deadlift.........................3,3,3,6,10......60
Step Up........................10,10,10.........0
Split Squat....................10,10,10........90
Good Morning..................8,8................45
Now I'm off to find out what half these things are
It's been designed with improving my deadlift in mind
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I should point out that this plan is quite specific, I gave my trainer a target of getting my deadlift up from arount 310lbs to 400lbs by the end of the year. That probably explains why it looks quite light on the upper body.
I think like most people I spent too long workoing on my upper body for about the first 12 months in the gym so this should help even things out a bit
Does anyone care to bet whether I'll do it?
I've ready decided that I will so it's gonna happen
Although I have to say that my previous routine didn't have much upper body activity but I still got good gains from it. It just proves that the way to build your top half is to work the bottom half
Also, my last routine was devised with rehabilitation in mind so now the shoulder pain has subsided there's a bit more chest work in there
Does anyone have any feedback on the routine?
I think like most people I spent too long workoing on my upper body for about the first 12 months in the gym so this should help even things out a bit
Does anyone care to bet whether I'll do it?
I've ready decided that I will so it's gonna happen
Although I have to say that my previous routine didn't have much upper body activity but I still got good gains from it. It just proves that the way to build your top half is to work the bottom half
Also, my last routine was devised with rehabilitation in mind so now the shoulder pain has subsided there's a bit more chest work in there
Does anyone have any feedback on the routine?
I've been given a new plan to work with, unfortunately the MP has gone which is a shame, I liked that, but this routine looks tougher than the last and I'm looking forward to it
Workout A..............Reps............Rest
Front Squats..........3,3,3,6,10.....60
Romanian Deadlift....10,10,10.......0
Static Lunge...........10,10,10.......90
Calf Raise...............8,8..............45
Workout B.......................Reps.............Rest
DB Chest Press.................5,5,5,8..........0
BB T-Row........................5,5,5,8..........60
Elevated Push Up Iso Hold..3x45sec.........0
Bent Over Cable Pulldown...10,10,10........60
Internal/External Rotation...10,10,10,10....45
Workout C.....................Reps..............Rest
Deadlift.........................3,3,3,6,10......60
Step Up........................10,10,10.........0
Split Squat....................10,10,10........90
Good Morning..................8,8................45
Now I'm off to find out what half these things are
It's been designed with improving my deadlift in mind
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400lbs, no problem!!
I've just been told that these will be performed in this order
A, B, C, B, A, B, C
and on the days M,T,T,F
Workout A..............Reps............Rest
Front Squats..........3,3,3,6,10.....60
Romanian Deadlift....10,10,10.......0
Static Lunge...........10,10,10.......90
Calf Raise...............8,8..............45
Workout B.......................Reps.............Rest
DB Chest Press.................5,5,5,8..........0
BB T-Row........................5,5,5,8..........60
Elevated Push Up Iso Hold..3x45sec.........0
Bent Over Cable Pulldown...10,10,10........60
Internal/External Rotation...10,10,10,10....45
Workout C.....................Reps..............Rest
Deadlift.........................3,3,3,6,10......60
Step Up........................10,10,10.........0
Split Squat....................10,10,10........90
Good Morning..................8,8................45
A, B, C, B, A, B, C
and on the days M,T,T,F
Workout A..............Reps............Rest
Front Squats..........3,3,3,6,10.....60
Romanian Deadlift....10,10,10.......0
Static Lunge...........10,10,10.......90
Calf Raise...............8,8..............45
Workout B.......................Reps.............Rest
DB Chest Press.................5,5,5,8..........0
BB T-Row........................5,5,5,8..........60
Elevated Push Up Iso Hold..3x45sec.........0
Bent Over Cable Pulldown...10,10,10........60
Internal/External Rotation...10,10,10,10....45
Workout C.....................Reps..............Rest
Deadlift.........................3,3,3,6,10......60
Step Up........................10,10,10.........0
Split Squat....................10,10,10........90
Good Morning..................8,8................45
Moan of the day
I have to have a moan, I'm very sorry, I'm just getting a bit wound up by the amount of 'wiki' experts we have on this site. For all the Wiki experts out there, if you haven't read it already take a look at this from the weight lifting stickies, this is the kind of person we need more of
This is my favourite quote from this article
"I call it the Big Head Syndrome (BHS). BHS strikes when an individual (usually around 20 years old) reads a few books, memorizes some things, and then vomits it back up on the test. After some time, the academic world can actually brainwash the common sense and sheer logic out of you. This is when you get your elitist Boy Scout badge and your attitude changes."
Do we have anyone on here prepared to say what they know for themselves rather than what they've read somewhere and vomited up over and over again on this site? I'm fed up of hearing arguements like 'but the latest research from iceland says....' or 'tests on albino mice in Mexico show that....'
Research has it's place but it's not the be all and end all of everything, research is often flawed and on many occasions completely wrong
Why are so few people on here saying things like 'I did this....and it worked'.
It seems like too many people are scared to go against the grain and post what they really think.
Maybe it's the threat from this dumb rep system we have where people are getting rediculous levels rep power and giving each other little green bars to show how smart they are. Everyone wants to jump on the popularity band wagon at the moment and it's breeding a culture of collective arse licking and bullying of independent thinkers
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Rant over
I have to have a moan, I'm very sorry, I'm just getting a bit wound up by the amount of 'wiki' experts we have on this site. For all the Wiki experts out there, if you haven't read it already take a look at this from the weight lifting stickies, this is the kind of person we need more of
This is my favourite quote from this article
"I call it the Big Head Syndrome (BHS). BHS strikes when an individual (usually around 20 years old) reads a few books, memorizes some things, and then vomits it back up on the test. After some time, the academic world can actually brainwash the common sense and sheer logic out of you. This is when you get your elitist Boy Scout badge and your attitude changes."
Do we have anyone on here prepared to say what they know for themselves rather than what they've read somewhere and vomited up over and over again on this site? I'm fed up of hearing arguements like 'but the latest research from iceland says....' or 'tests on albino mice in Mexico show that....'
Research has it's place but it's not the be all and end all of everything, research is often flawed and on many occasions completely wrong
Why are so few people on here saying things like 'I did this....and it worked'.
It seems like too many people are scared to go against the grain and post what they really think.
Maybe it's the threat from this dumb rep system we have where people are getting rediculous levels rep power and giving each other little green bars to show how smart they are. Everyone wants to jump on the popularity band wagon at the moment and it's breeding a culture of collective arse licking and bullying of independent thinkers
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Rant over
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It's not just today man, it been happening here for a long time it's just that this kind of arrogant behaviour has become accepted on this site now.
Remember Conan Stevens that was on here? 350 pounds of muscle but because the methods he used weren't written in a text book he was ridiculed and eventually he stopped posting. I also think that he was wrong about some things but the guy deserved respect, he acheived more than just about anyone else on here but he got a load of crap from 150lb skinny guys telling him he knew nothing about how to build muscle and he just had enough and left.
In the last week I've heard so much crap about things that can't be true because research doesn't support it that it's pissing me off
Yes, I remember him. I think it was Tan that was all over him, I think. One thing is for sure, he was big.........and this speaks volumes "that something is working" eh? Even IF science doesnt support it.
Admittingly, Wrangell sometimes gets on my nerves with his over analyzing and debate nature.. I respect his "paper" knowledge he displays, but not his over analyzing. I thought it was the protein thread......If Im out of line...just flame me.......I can........well.........chill it out.....
But I had to make that one post. I can delete this post if you wish........Yes, I remember him. I think it was Tan that was all over him, I think. One thing is for sure, he was big.........and this speaks volumes "that something is working" eh? Even IF science doesnt support it.
Admittingly, Wrangell sometimes gets on my nerves with his over analyzing and debate nature.. I respect his "paper" knowledge he displays, but not his over analyzing. I thought it was the protein thread......If Im out of line...just flame me.......I can........well.........chill it out.....
Lol, you don't need to delete it, but I'd like to make clear that this isn't about Wrangell or the Protein thread (well maybe 0.01%), I have respect for Wrangell and the knowledge he's built up; I'd just like it if people like him could give some more respect to those that may hold unfashionable opinions but have at least formed them through their own experiences
The Tanizaki case was a good one, he drove Conan off the site with his nasty trolling but people started to actually support Tanizaki in his attacks, maybe through fear that he would start picking on them, or maybe it was because they were jealous of a person who'd achieved far more than them and wanted to have a dig too.
Either way, the people who make the most noise on this site are those that are quoting out of a text book. If that's all you need to know then why come on here in the first place? Just go buy the bloody text book.
I for one want to hear more from people like Evo, Karky, FF, Mreik, LV, Tony and yourself of course
on how they achieved what they have rather than the last thing they read on the damn internet
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People just trust science too much. They think that science knows it all and can provide all the answers.
Even after the physicists a long time ago accurately described all the relevant scientific principles like mechanics, aerodynamics, friction etc. that you need to know to effectively make cars, automotive engineers continue to make better and better cars. And when your car is broken, you don't ask an engineer to fix it, he can't, a mechanic can.
It's just different levels of abstraction. The science or even engineering stuff just doesn't easily apply to working out that it's the gear box that's broken and it's cheaper to replace it than repair it. In many ways it's like the difference between knowing the rules of chess and actually being a good player.
Now add to the fact that medical science is no where near the level of accurate knowledge that the physical sciences have. Most processes in the body aren't understood. The full complexity of how it all interacts isn't even remotely grasped. It's a science that in large part is based on trial and error. Most medication, they only suspect how it functions, the argument for using it is that "we've tested it on animals and some patients, and it benefits most without a high risk of side effects".
It's also not uncommon that results are misinterpreted. A favorite story was that bingo apparently kept the elderly fresh and made them live longer. Then research showed that mental acuity was retained through physical exercise and not mental exercise, and the old results were flawed simply because the weak and more likely to die elderly statistically also went out less in general and specifically also went to bingo less. The causality was the reverse, weak people went out less instead of that going out made them healthy. Who knows, maybe next year they'll find a gene that makes people healthy and want to exercise, and it turns out exercise doesn't do jack for health.
I'm not knocking science, it continually brings great results for all of us, but medical science isn't exact, and we're at the car-fixing-mechanic level here.
Even after the physicists a long time ago accurately described all the relevant scientific principles like mechanics, aerodynamics, friction etc. that you need to know to effectively make cars, automotive engineers continue to make better and better cars. And when your car is broken, you don't ask an engineer to fix it, he can't, a mechanic can.
It's just different levels of abstraction. The science or even engineering stuff just doesn't easily apply to working out that it's the gear box that's broken and it's cheaper to replace it than repair it. In many ways it's like the difference between knowing the rules of chess and actually being a good player.
Now add to the fact that medical science is no where near the level of accurate knowledge that the physical sciences have. Most processes in the body aren't understood. The full complexity of how it all interacts isn't even remotely grasped. It's a science that in large part is based on trial and error. Most medication, they only suspect how it functions, the argument for using it is that "we've tested it on animals and some patients, and it benefits most without a high risk of side effects".
It's also not uncommon that results are misinterpreted. A favorite story was that bingo apparently kept the elderly fresh and made them live longer. Then research showed that mental acuity was retained through physical exercise and not mental exercise, and the old results were flawed simply because the weak and more likely to die elderly statistically also went out less in general and specifically also went to bingo less. The causality was the reverse, weak people went out less instead of that going out made them healthy. Who knows, maybe next year they'll find a gene that makes people healthy and want to exercise, and it turns out exercise doesn't do jack for health.
I'm not knocking science, it continually brings great results for all of us, but medical science isn't exact, and we're at the car-fixing-mechanic level here.
Lol, you don't need to delete it, but I'd like to make clear that this isn't about Wrangell or the Protein thread, I have respect for Wrangell and the knowledge he's built up; I'd just like it if people like him could give some more respect to those that may hold unfashionable opinions but have at least formed them through their own experiences
The Tanizaki case was a good one, he drove Conan off the site with his nasty trolling but people started to actually support Tanizaki in his attacks, maybe through fear that he would start picking on them, or maybe it was because they were jealous of a person who'd achieved far more than them and wanted to have a dig too.
Either way, the people who make the most noise on this site are those that are quoting out of a text book. If that's all you need to know then why come on here in the first place? Just go buy the bloody text book.
I for one want to hear more from people like Evo, Karky, FF, Mreik, LV, Tony and yourself of course
I'd be the first one to admit, I have had no formal education in diet and training. My education is more personal: the trials and errors of trying to reach my own personal goal and the experiences in this journey, and educating myself to get the job done---and adjusting what I apply based upon bodily feed back and could have cared less if it was supported by science or not, as long as it personally made a difference.
I respect him to, and most of the time I just ignore the thread he is involved in, if a debate going on; he really gets motivated when a debate is on in a subject matter. I think he just likes debating a science subject, which is fine, but I have other appeals and goals.
(edit: I wish conan would come back, his input could have been valuable to a few people)
I agree in how you feel.......Hey......I have a few spare....chillpills.......wants some?.......No charge......for a friend..........
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Just a few bits I liked above ^^ but that was a fantastic post all round, thanks for putting it in my thread
I agree in how you feel.......Hey......I have a few spare....chillpills.......wants some?.......No charge......for a friend..........
Cheers buddy, I'm off home to play with my little girl now, that's a great stress reliever
Wow I just read all this now. Wiki experts, I like that, kind of like the internet gurus. Dont forget to mention theleip in that list of people, her determination and dedication to real world results is unsurpassed. Not saying you didnt think of her
Anyways I came in here to give you this piece of info:
There is actually less stress absorbed into the foot WITHOUT shoes than with shoes. Remember that the next time you decide to treat your feet to a huge pair of cinder blocks – otherwise known as basketball shoes. One of the easiest ways to improve movement efficiency and coordination is to get a hold of a pair of Nike Frees and/or train barefoot on grass.
Damn nice front squats also.
Anyways I came in here to give you this piece of info:
There is actually less stress absorbed into the foot WITHOUT shoes than with shoes. Remember that the next time you decide to treat your feet to a huge pair of cinder blocks – otherwise known as basketball shoes. One of the easiest ways to improve movement efficiency and coordination is to get a hold of a pair of Nike Frees and/or train barefoot on grass.
Damn nice front squats also.
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