Sport Your opinion- A calorie is a calorie or not a calorie?

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davidjr74

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I have no answer becaucs this has been confusing me for a while and has been debated a long time but I haven't seen a straight answer.

To Lose Fat you need to burn more calories then you eat. Thats a fact.

Lets say you eat 2000 calories and thats -500 below mainteance. Each of the persons below Weight Lifted for Strength 3x a week and did a day of cardio. Assume they all achieved the same macros (40/40/20) too despite the way they ate.

Person 1: 2000 calories from 100% clean food
Person 2: 2000 calories from 75% clean food
Person 3: 2000 calories from Junkfood

Wouldn't they all lose 1 pound of fat?
 
I used to believe that 500 calories of chocolate isn't the same 500 calories of fruits because the different in fat, etc.

But then everyone else would say that 500 calories are 500 calories nonetheless, and if you want to eat 2000 calories full of pizza, hamburgers its the same as 2000 calories eating healthy

I still have my doubts. even if i am below my calorie intake for the day, i will not eat junk food.
 
The difference is let's say you eat 2000 calories of pizza or chocolate compared to eating 2000 calories of healthy foods such as grilled chicken + brown rice + veggies.. the pizza or chocolate is like eating empty calories or too many calories of one thing that your body is not benefiting from for the most part. Where as the healthy foods give you energy and nutrition your body needs and can use to burn off more calories throughout the day. I know this doesn't answer your question exactly but hope it helps!
 
haha i have also thought about something like this before

they would have to be clones of the same dna first of all.

secondly, food is your body's fuel. quality DOES MATTER as well as quantity.

the person who ate 100% clean would have much better biological valued foods, giving him/her a huge edge in performance against the others because his/her body would have better quality fuel to maintain, rebuild, run, supply energy and thrive!

its like comparing soy protein to egg protein. eggs are just better quality!

i believe they would all lose similar amounts of weight, but i believe the trainee with the clean foods would perform better at almost anything.
 
A calorie is a calorie; what else can a calorie be? It's like asking if a tire is a tire...they all do the same thing and provide the same effect.

That being said, I remember two people who went on a McDonalds diet for 1 month and monitored their kcal intake so that they were going below maintenence. End result was that they all lost weight (fat).

The McDonalds diet challenge was due to that Forrest guy or whatever his name was eating McDonalds for 1 month and getting fat. What do you expect when you take a vegetarian, suddenly feed him an extreme amount of kcals over maintenence and he doesn't work out or have any activity. :rolleyes:
 
jmanjman47 said:
I have no answer becaucs this has been confusing me for a while and has been debated a long time but I haven't seen a straight answer.

To Lose Fat you need to burn more calories then you eat. Thats a fact.

Lets say you eat 2000 calories and thats -500 below mainteance. Each of the persons below Weight Lifted for Strength 3x a week and did a day of cardio. Assume they all achieved the same macros (40/40/20) too despite the way they ate.

Person 1: 2000 calories from 100% clean food
Person 2: 2000 calories from 75% clean food
Person 3: 2000 calories from Junkfood

Wouldn't they all lose 1 pound of fat?
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Don't forget, person 3 ( depending how much fat they consume of those 2,000 calories ) may eat somewhere close to 25 % +/- less food in actual weight than person 1 in order to hold at 2,000 calories - which may be tough to do since people are used to eating similar sized portions IMO - causing person 3 to consume more than 2,000 calories just to consume the same amount of food they are used to.

Putting the thermic effect of food aside for the moment, another way to look at it, is that if a person is used to eating 500 grams of food - holding the 500 grams constant - person 1 will lose fat quicker than person 3.
 
Also you have to look at performance enhancement. Most people are going to perform better with a higher level of vitamin and nutrients, be less prone to injury, ie better nutrients help aid into better recovery. So perhaps a few months testers doesn't cut it in truly letting you know if clean diet wins over junk diet.

Like anything that has potential to do long term damage, with the human bod things are not always so black and white. Energy is energy yes, but there good nutrients and non existent ones. Instead of debating is a calorie a calorie you should be debating is a nutrient and nutrient and in THAT aspect they most certainly aren't.
 
Thanks for the answers!

Even though the third guy is eating junk food he is still losing a pound. Of course he'll probably have a hard attack by the time he is 30...


I was just wandering about this because if you eat junk food your not gonna ruin your cutting because you can still fit it into your macros and calories. So that clears that up for me.
 
But with the junk food you're not going to get to eat very much, as they would be more calorie dense
 
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