Whey protein for fat people?

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Do I need it? I'm doing cardio every day. Now I'm starting to lift weights every other day. Arms one chest the next then shoulders/back with light cardio on lift days.
I'm am overweight by plenty and need to Lose alot of fat. I could lose 150 pounds if that tells you how bad I am..
Anyways I'm a little lost when it comes to protein and was wondering if whey is something I should consider even if it's only on the days I lift..
My arms are my real focus is my arms even tho im doing a whole upper body.
Losing wright is my main goal but would like to gain muscle, or at least not lose what little I have
 
Protein is good for overweight people, fat and carbohydrates are not.
A good protein shake, whey or anything else is good,get a protein shake high in protein say 60% or more, not more than 5% carb, and less than 3% fat, you can use this to supplement one meal a day and it also will fuel your muscle while you are training. But the golden rule is DONT PUT ANY FAT INTO YOUR BODY.
 
You can loose weight(fat) but you cant loose muscle, it can get smaller bigger,but you cant loose it, while you loose fat you also loose fat within the muscle and tissue, and as you train (workout)you will replace the fat mass with muscle mass which is heavier than fat.So when you train use small weights and do high reps, up to 50 per muscle
 
Good to know!! Does it matter if I use it for breakfast or should I keep it closer to when I work out around 3-4 pm? Wasn't sure if I'm wasting it drinking it early
 
A protein shake is just another protein source. You don't 'need' it, but it won't hurt as long as you're still there with your calories.

If you don't normally eat protein after your workout (and it's a strength training workout, cardio it doesn't really matter) then have the shake to boost your protein. On the other hand, if you work out and then have a steak or some chicken or whatever, then it doesn't really matter.

Really, there are only two reasons to use protein powder - 1) you really need to get in your protein but want to get the minimal calories for the day 2) you're feeling lazy, and it's easier to make a protein shake than to cook some chicken.

So, after a strength training workout get some protein and carbs, but there's really nothing magical about protein powder. It's your choice as to how to fit it in to your diet.
 
If you supplement your diet with L'Argelline (I think thats how you spell it) then you may find that you will be building muscle better than before... It helps to relax the blood vessels to allow greater flow which is key when you are exercising.

You dont have to be fat to use it but it will help to speed up the metabolism which us larger people could use - it also reduces high blood pressure, cholesterol and some heart problems due to the same reason.

I have high cholesterol and am of the larger build and am using it as a supplement for that reason - I wont know my results for a while yet but have seen what it can do. I only went on a supplements training on saturday...

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i can say to you that whey protein and a low carb diet will help you amazinly

i used to be 33 stone. i started off my own diet. low sat fat

then when i got to about 19 stone my friend and gym instructor/head coach and MMA Fighter recommended a High protein low carb diet. and not eating carbs after 2 PM

it really work s amazingly

be happy give info but i would really recommend it

i am now sitting at 14 St 13 lbs
 
Jeanette401 said:
A protein shake is just another protein source. You don't 'need' it, but it won't hurt as long as you're still there with your calories.

If you don't normally eat protein after your workout (and it's a strength training workout, cardio it doesn't really matter) then have the shake to boost your protein. On the other hand, if you work out and then have a steak or some chicken or whatever, then it doesn't really matter.

Really, there are only two reasons to use protein powder - 1) you really need to get in your protein but want to get the minimal calories for the day 2) you're feeling lazy, and it's easier to make a protein shake than to cook some chicken.

So, after a strength training workout get some protein and carbs, but there's really nothing magical about protein powder. It's your choice as to how to fit it in to your diet.
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I agree with a lot of this. Protein shakes are just an easier way to get more protein in your diet, but at the cost of extra calories. In the end, the body isnt going to treat it as some special chemically balanced recovery shake, its going to treat it like food.

If your goal is to lose weight, the most important factor is maintaining a calorie deficit. Period. Minimal science to it. Protein is still incredibly important in a diet, but consuming extra just for the sake of having it only leads to wasted proteins not being digested, and excess calories which are pretty unnessesary.

I think these shakes get so much attention, because people that are looking to build muscle use these. For these people, they are actively trying to eat a lot more protein while maintaining a strenuous lifting regiment. These people are also gaining weight.


TL:DR

These shakes are intended for people who are trying to increase muscle mass. In my opinion, get your protein through healthy meals, and you wont handicap yourself with excess calories through these shakes.
 
I would avoid whey protein for one simple reason. You can get it with food, and food tastes better! Protein is absolutely necessary in any diet, but no more so than carbs or fat. 50% carbs, 25% protein, 25% fat. On a 2000 kcal diet, that's about 500 kcals from protein, or 125 grams. You get about 40 g from 2 scoops of protein powder. Why not fill up on lean proteins, nuts, etc. instead of a shake that takes seconds to drink and doesn't provide satisfaction (meaning it won't make you full physiologically, and it is not mentally satisfying as a meal). Let's face it. If you're in this forum, you ENJOY eating food. Don't replace the little you are allowing yourself with powder!

Dedicated to your weight loss success,
Matt
 
I love Total 0% Greek yoghurt. It is absolutely yummy with fruit and great for both protein and calcium.
 
Which cheap whey product can you recommend to someone who weight 155 and is 5'9?

How long will it take to start seeing results?
 
I use optimum nutrition gold stranded after my insanity workout as a recovery drink. It is a inexpensive but good protein. I buy the 2lbs tub for 40 dollars. I use the vanilla ice cream flavor and mix it with milk. I agree that eating protein through food is good. But with my workout I like to bump it up a bit. And have found that it helps me recover a little bit better then if I don't have it.
 
How many grams of protein are you aiming to hit with your overall calorie plan?

Do you have a target based on your weight or lean body weight. I aim for 1g per pound of lean body weight - but know that some people recommend more for improved body recomposition.

I am a firm believer that we need to ensure that we have sufficient protein to ensure that we conserve our muscles. Those muscles not only improve our tone but they also help us to burn more calories. It is important to remember that our heart is a muscle too - so it really is important to conserve our muscles - especially when we are limiting our fuel supply because we want weight loss.

I get my protein through food and enjoy every bit of it. :)
 
Who was the question pointed to. And I enjoy my whey protein with my milk after my workout. It doesn't taste bad and mixes very well with milk. I will throw in a half a scoop with a berry smoothie as well. Whey protein powder doesn't have to taste bad. And you can enjoy it just like you enjoy eating food.
 
Jmann8686 - I am generally interested to know how everyone is setting their targets... Protein is very important. I often worry about whether some people on the forums are cutting their protein too drastically in eagerness to cut calories...

So - how many grams of actual protein are you shooting for between your diet and your supplementary protein?

I am sure that you will be aware that a lot of food tracking tools (I use www.fitday.com) give a nutritional breakdown of the amount of protein and all sorts of other goodies in our food. It is also written on a lot of food packaging...

For instance - my Total 0% Greek yoghurt contains 10.3g protein and 104mg calcium in 100g of the yoghurt.
https://www.totalgreekyoghurt.com/our-yoghurts/total-0-greek-yoghurt

1oz of bonesless skinless chicken breast is 8.6g protein, 4.2mg calcium

I note that you say that you measure your protein using scoops. Have you seen this thread? You may find it interesting... I think that everyone that measures in scoops should see the link at the top of the thread.

http://weight-loss.fitness.com/threads/16780-Easiest-Fat-Loss-Tip-Ever

I have a lot of friends that swear by protein powders... I have nothing as such against them... My main concern is that people ensure that they are getting the right amount of protein across everything and know what they are getting... Also that they do not ignore their other nutrients...
 
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To be honest I don't keep track of calories and carbs and protein that much. I will look to see how many are in a serving of something's I eat. But I don't get caught up in all the counting. I have tracked it before and calculated how many I need and what I eat comes in below of that most of the time. I eat two farm fresh eggs on a flour tortilla every morning with a cup if coffee and two small safeway brand maple cookies. Yes cookies. I find that they go great with my coffee and if I eat them in the morning it satisfies my sweet tooth for the day. I have a cliff bar or odwalla bar for a snack around ten. Then I will eat a pb&j or a ham and turkey sandwich some safeway brand yogurt with fresh berries and a piece of string cheese. Then around 4 or so i will have some grapes or some other small fresh fruit. Or if I'm biking home I will have some raisins with some nuts then when I get home I do an hour insanity workout. Have some dried plums and a fig for the fiber cause the whey protein backs me up a bit and a scoop of whey protein. The scoop is 24g of protein. And I will have it with about 12 to 14 oz of milk. And that keeps me satisfied till dinner which is usually a healthy meal consisting of chicken or pork and sometimes when I'm lucky a steak. And I drink anywhere from 75 to 100 oz of water a day. I eat till I'm full and stop. I try to stay away from junk food and have not had a drop of soda since January 1st 2013. And every once in awhile will have a good beer cause I love beer. It was harder to stop drinking beer then soda. And I have a goal of dropping a pound a week and usually pass that every week by at least half a pound. Sometimes a full pound. I started drinking whey protein after my workout cause I found it helps me keep going the next day I stopped taking it for a couple of days and I found that I was more sore and my legs and arms would fatigue sooner during the next days workout. My meals and workout schedule has been working for me great. Don't know if I'm doing it right or wrong but I'm down two pant sizes and 20 lbs and will soon have to punch another hole in my belt.
 
I base my protein intake on the recommendations of the director of sports nutrition at the AIS and my LBM is used as the basis giving me a 91.5 grams of protein needed each day.
 
There has been multiple recordings that have shown why whey protein creates a drop in weight loss. For one it has been noted that whey protein users have lower ghrelin levels in their blood. Ghrelin is a hormone that regulates food intake; the lower the ghrelin level the more full one feels. Essentially this means that people taking whey protein feel less obligated to eat because they have a full feeling more often.

Whey protein is also high in leucine, an amino acid that spares muscle proteins while burning through calories and fat. Studies have also shown that leucine continues to shed body fat months after usage.
 
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