Sport What protein helps with weight loss if any?

[thirdwill]

So I have a quesiton. I am 6 ft tall, about 214 pounds (2 months ago 224). I walked into a health store not to long ago and asked which was better, the one I am taking now - Myofusion or the one I took first AMP Wheybolic 60 for losing weight. The sales man said the AMP works better as it has less this and less that etc.. I think he said it was a "faster?" protein...

So my quesiton is, is there a difference in protein and if there is what one would someone look for to 1: help with weight loss and 2: maybe get a bit of muslce and recover the bones etc.. BTW I wouldn't say I am on a fasting diet just watching my intake and all.

The AMP worked alright I did see some weight loss while doing cardio and nautilus workouts, since taking the Myofusion I have sorta noticed a bit of a slow down.... I have been refered to Isopure but for the cost figured there would be something different I could use. So anyone that could help would be great!

 

[summer123]

There is a difference in protein in terms of what its come from and a good idea is to eat a range of different types. Eating the same type can make your body lazy as it stops working as hard to digest things.

No one protein over another will help you to lose weight, infact no one food over another will help you to lose weight. Losing weight is very simple: you need to consume fewer calories then you expell. Either increase your workload or eat less or both- and both works better. Eating less seems to make much more of a difference then exercising more but without exercise you don't tend to build muscle and muscle helps you burn more calories so its a good idea to exercise and do both cardio (sweat inducing) and resistance training (stuff with weights).

When you eat protein, don't forget to count the calories in it, and also aim to eat 1.5 to 2 grams per 1Kg of your body weight. You could get say 30g from about 100g of cooked chicken which would be around 130kcals but read, weight, measure and tally your calories before you eat not after. Theres no reason to go without eating- eat little and often does your body far more good then eating and then not eating for hours after eating larger meals.

But in answer to your question, in terms of weight loss, there is no difference in the different types of protein. It may be there is a difference in what is added to that protein (eg sugar, caffiene, fat or salt).

 

[thirdwill]

Summer hope this gets to you, as I am still a bit new to the forum.
I do exercise about 3 to 4 times a week. I do about 30 min (3 to 5 miles) of Cardio workout on a ellipitcal machine which gets my bps to about 152 ish?? I again am 37. I also usually do nautilus equipment after that. Most the equip I use with the nautilus is centered around the chest area, usually if I do cardio my legs are pretty in shape for that day. I also usually always try to burn off the calories from taking the protein. So if my protein gives me lets say 100 cals I include that much in my workout. Do you think I am good as far as that part goes, again as far as the exercise.

Ok with the protein then. I guess even taking protein mix after using just the cardio and/or nautilus is still recommended though right?

 

[darren187]

I would tend to agree with what Summer has said, eat from a range of complete proteins. The only difference I would make is to factor the amount of protein you eat as a percentage of your total daily intake and not by the g/kg rule.

Do you have a rough idea of how many calories per day you eat? Or do you count them and plan your daily meals in advance (and if so what macro breakdown are you on)?

 

[thirdwill]

Darren,
I would say something like cereal in the morning, sometimes scrambled eggs, lunch can range from a chicken wrap (or any wrap) with soup or even a subway sandwich, dinner is usually up in the air.
I am not on a fasting sorta diet, but I do eat you know my fruits etc in there and stuff.

 

[Typhon]

There is a difference in protein in terms of what its come from and a good idea is to eat a range of different types. Eating the same type can make your body lazy as it stops working as hard to digest things.

You've said this before and have never backed it up with anything.
Your gut is not sentient; therefore it can't become 'lazy'.
One thing that does happen is that the environmental conditions within your gut change to adapt to the foods it most commonly encounters and then becomes more efficient at processing them. This is of course a good thing as it'll allow you to gain greater nutritional value from the foods you digest.

I think at some point in the past you've probably heard this and got things confused, digestive adaptation to foods it commonly encounters is a biological process that greatly benefits our wellbeing. It does not make the gut 'lazy', it just gets better with processing familiar things (you'll notice this if you ever take a trip to India, or if you're Indian, a week in the US or UK will leave you constipated for weeks!)

And to the OP: The sales guy is not there to advise you, he's there to get as much money out of you as he can. Monitor your calories to lose weight, choice of protein suppliment will account for a tiny fraction (if anything) of the weight you lose.

 

[summer123]

You've said this before and have never backed it up with anything.
Your gut is not sentient; therefore it can't become 'lazy'.
One thing that does happen is that the environmental conditions within your gut change to adapt to the foods it most commonly encounters and then becomes more efficient at processing them. This is of course a good thing as it'll allow you to gain greater nutritional value from the foods you digest.

I think at some point in the past you've probably heard this and got things confused, digestive adaptation to foods it commonly encounters is a biological process that greatly benefits our wellbeing. It does not make the gut 'lazy', it just gets better with processing familiar things (you'll notice this if you ever take a trip to India, or if you're Indian, a week in the US or UK will leave you constipated for weeks!)

And to the OP: The sales guy is not there to advise you, he's there to get as much money out of you as he can. Monitor your calories to lose weight, choice of protein suppliment will account for a tiny fraction (if anything) of the weight you lose.

Your calling it familiar, I am calling it lazy. Its a matter of opinon I guess. All I know is that in books I have read, in diets myself and friends have done, its often the case that when you change your food, even if the calories are kept the same, things change with your weight: it goes down. I have a friend who leads a weight loss group, has done so for nearly 10 years, I help out sometimes with this group, its often this case with the members over the years- almost as if a "shock" to the system had the body sit up and take notice, resulting in weight loss, yet if they continue to eat the same thing for more then a fortnight, weight loss levels out or goes slowly back up.

I speak from my own and others exerience, what I read in books and what I find works. I prefer to give advice I have actually followed rather then just that I have read alone on a wiki page some time ago. I can see you don't agree, but that wont change what I believe and what I have found to work.

 

[summer123]

Summer hope this gets to you, as I am still a bit new to the forum.
I do exercise about 3 to 4 times a week. I do about 30 min (3 to 5 miles) of Cardio workout on a ellipitcal machine which gets my bps to about 152 ish?? I again am 37. I also usually do nautilus equipment after that. Most the equip I use with the nautilus is centered around the chest area, usually if I do cardio my legs are pretty in shape for that day. I also usually always try to burn off the calories from taking the protein. So if my protein gives me lets say 100 cals I include that much in my workout. Do you think I am good as far as that part goes, again as far as the exercise.

Ok with the protein then. I guess even taking protein mix after using just the cardio and/or nautilus is still recommended though right?

Taking protein after a heavy work out is recommended. I tend to find it helps with appetite control more then anything else but the idea is to help with muscle repair- when you use your muscles, you cause lots of micro tears. Your body needs protein to repair these muscle tears and also to build up any new muscle. Muscle is helpful for weight loss as well as cardio- the more muscle you have the faster you can go the more calories you can burn in addition to your body simply requiring more calories in order to just maintain the muscle day to day.

Be aware that its hard to gauge how many calories your actually burning from what you exercise. I wear a Heart Rate Monitor, it tells me that I do 1000kcals in one gym session. Its a decent model (Polar F7) and has been repalced twice with the previous models giving me the same results. But if that were true, I'd be very skinny by now- theres no way I eat 3000kcals per day! No way!! (especially as I count and weigh everything before eating- obsessivly so). Really, don't try to be too exact, don't rely on exercise to burn calories, it helps, yes, but I for one don't believe it makes as much of a difference as most people believe. I believe the body adapts well and learns how to burn fewer calories at higher heart rates for example.

If you do feel you need to eat extra, do, its OK to do this. Keep a log of your weight as you do this, if you notice it shoot up you know that either your eating more then your body needs or your body maybe wants to be a higher weight. Eating when you feel hungry is not a crime. But eating when your not hungry, eg just because its routine or you like the taste, thats when things get you into trouble.

 

[thirdwill]

Yes summer got you on the eating part. I work in a arena where all there is is pretty much fried food. I fell into the trap of not having stuff to do or you know same old thing and I would eat. I know 210 etc isn't that much but I would go nuts on the sweets and all until finally I figured it was time to stop that. So I have cut down on pretty much all pop, sometimes I drink a Coke Zero etc and the food I have stopped fried sorta food pretty much completey except for some very few days I eat it (low on $$ etc).
So ok then. I take it pretty much as everyone has said then, protein is protein...