Tonalin CLA

sirant

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Tonalin CLA - Anyone tried this?

Hi all,

Unlike most of the supplements and quick fixes available out there this one I have been looking up online, and even on the sites that genuinely are out to help protect us from crap products, nobody really has anything bad to say about this stuff. No side effects (a little green for some people at first) and no promises of speedy and easy weight loss. Just a lean muscle stimulator or some such thing. No promises of eating what you want and losing weight and does not promise to make you big like "Arny"

I only ask because in China, the population here is desperately trying to westernize, and with the coming of McDonalds, KFC and all the bad habits that go with them, the population is expanding, and not in the way you would normally think for China. They are getting wider. 20% of the children are already obese. This of course has caused a spike in the "quick fix weight loss" market. You have never seen so many vibration belts, creams, pills and electronic gizmos that have all been debunked essentially back home. (remember those stupid looking old belt vibrating machines for womens butt? You can buy them here NEW!!!) But then a friend of mine working in a health food store (imported stuff of course) told me about this Tonalin CLA. It was the most expensive supplement they had, but he guarantees he has seen it work. I looked it up, and like I said, couldn't find anything saying "Lies!! Stay Away!!" Like I expected.

Anyone here have any experience with this stuff? If it helped with plateaus like it says, that would be too cool....

sirant
 
Conjugated linoleic acid
Conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) refers to a family of many geometric isomers of linoleic acid (at least 13 are reported), which are found primarily in the meat and dairy products of ruminants.

Conjugated linoleic acid is a trans fat, though some researchers claim that it is not harmful in the same fashion as other trans fatty acids, but rather is beneficial. [citation needed] CLA is a conjugated system, and in the United States, trans linkages in a conjugated system are not counted as trans fat for the purposes of nutritional regulations and labeling. Unlike most trans fatty acids found in the human diet, CLA occurs naturally, produced by microorganisms in the fore-stomach of ruminants. Non-ruminants, such as humans, may be able to produce some isomers of CLA from non-conjugated ruminant fats. One such example is vaccenic acid, which could be converted to CLA by delta-9-desaturase.[1]

CLA comes in two isomers: the c9,t11 isomer (rumenic acid) which appears responsible for improving muscle growth,[citation needed] and the t10,c12 isomer which primarily prevents lipogenesis (storage of fat in adipose tissue). Most supplements sold in stores contain a 50/50 mix of both isomers. [2]

Various antioxidant and anti-tumor properties have been attributed to CLA, and studies on mice and rats show promising results; however, it is suspected that sufficient concentrations to achieve anti-inflammatory effects within human tissues may not be attainable via oral consumption. [citation needed]

Many studies on CLA in humans show a tendency for reduced body fat[3], particularly abdominal fat, changes in serum total lipids and decreased whole body glucose uptake. The maximum reduction in body fat mass was achieved with a 3.4 g daily dose[4].

Other benefits

CLA may be beneficial in other aspects, including prevention of breast and colon cancer.

Additional potential benefits include a reduction in food-induced allergic reactions, as well as the overall enhancement of the immune system. [1]

Possible Side Effects

There are concerns that the use of CLA may actually cause insulin resistance, leading to an increased risk for developing diabetes.[5]. [2]

A recent study (2006) conducted in mice by the US Department of Agriculture gives account of some highly concerning effects of CLA: it can dramatically induce essential fatty acid redistribution (DHA and AA) in various organ tissues. The same study raises the concern that it might pose significant risks, especially regarding cardiovascular health and inflammatory diseases. DHA content in heart tissue for instance was found to be reduced by no less than 25% by certain CLA isomers, while spleen DHA increased 6-fold and spleen AA was reduced to only 5% of its normal levels in that tissue. [3]. Another study (2005) of CLA supplementation of hatching chicks showed high mortality and low hatchability rate among the CLA-supplemented groups, and also a decrease in brain DHA levels of CLA-incubated chicks
 
is some interesting readng as well....

there's a lot of body builder places that seem to swear by the stuff but the side effects listed in wikipedia would make me steer clear of it...
 
I tried searching to see if anyone has asked this before but didn't find anything so if there is sorry! After talking to a few people about wanting to lose weight and tone up everyone keeps mentioning suppliments. One that keeps coming is tonalin cla. Any thoughts or opinions? I'm not looking for the "magic pill" so to speak and am taking a daily multivitamin and was wondering if this could be worth incorporating into a exercise and better eating plan.
 
if you have 10lbs to lose then I might concede that supplements will help - but since you've got around 60 to lose according to your ticker, i'd strongly suggest making sure your diet and workout routines are well under control before adding in any additional supplements....

You dont need any expensive pills to get you to drop the 60 - just a little bit of effort (not evena lot ofeffort) and consistency... which youo can take with you for the rest of your life..
 
if you have 10lbs to lose then I might concede that supplements will help - but since you've got around 60 to lose according to your ticker, i'd strongly suggest making sure your diet and workout routines are well under control before adding in any additional supplements....

You dont need any expensive pills to get you to drop the 60 - just a little bit of effort (not evena lot ofeffort) and consistency... which youo can take with you for the rest of your life..

So theory is essentially don't add suppliments until you hit a plateau?
 
nope -

Don't add supplements unless you're so close to a reasonable goal that nothing else seems to be working correctly -

plateaus can be overcome -it generally takes an adjustment in calories or workout....

I'm honestly not sure supplements are ever needed... but when you've got more than 10lbs to lose - they are absolutely NOT needed - fix the diet and the exercise and the weight will fall into place..
 
lol oh I already have that wardrobe for the most part....I used to spend crazy amounts of money on clothes so I have a whole closet of clothes I can't wear at the moment...can't wait to fit into them again
 
trying it out...

i was taking prednizone for 17 years for my asthma which had me over 220 lbs by the time i was 19. i changed my diet, started seriously riding my bike and lost 50 lbs. but for the last 4 years i've been at a stand point and can't seem to loose the weight. so i tried a number of different pills like claris (which did nothing) and then i tried tonalin CLA. i've only been on it for the last week now, but already i've lost 11 lbs. i'm sure most of this is water retention, but it's nice to finally see some results! i also added Green Extra Energy and iron pills as i've recently taken meat out of my diet. i'm going to keep taking them and see what happens!
 
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