Sport The water myths unveiled
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Good articles, I agree with alot of the points they make, especially the point that drinkin 8-10 glasses a day isnt scientifically proven to benefit everything that everyone thinks it does. I do drink usually 5-8 glasses a day but not because I think its a miracle potion as it states. The only time I drink more than 7 or 8 or more glasses of water is when im comin off a hard night of doin what Typhon illustrates in his avatar pic. 
Which isnt too often these days. Good articles g8
Which isnt too often these days. Good articles g8I drink 4 or 5 liters a day....it helps to have somthing to sip at and not eat or smoke or somthing.
I've heard so much rebuttal about caffeine not really being a diuretic, but anecdotally, I pee much more often when I drink diet soda. Admittedly it is hard to decipher how much of that is coming from the simple fact that I may be increasing my liquid intake, but I know that it's not by a large margin, so the caffeine definitely has some, albeit possibly very minor effect on me.
Net gain but still not the same overall gain from drinking water, or a sports drink that has salts and electrolytes.
an increased heart rate burns more calories, regardless of how you increase the rate. BUT- some ways are obviously healthier than others.
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G8R - when you do your long events, if you use the rule of drink when yoour thirsty- you will bonk. You must force liquids man! Or at least follow a nutrition and hydration plan.
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G8R - when you do your long events, if you use the rule of drink when yoour thirsty- you will bonk. You must force liquids man! Or at least follow a nutrition and hydration plan.
Can you elaborate why? I have read some articles that indicate that things like diet sodas and crystal light offer you same benefit as regular water and it even kind of states that in one of the articles. I am REALLY bad about drinking water but drink a diet soda in the morning and crystal light in the evenings. Should I really pull the crystal light and put water in its place? Is there that big of a gain?
He just means that caffeine is a mild diuretic, so it causes minor water losses. So anything you drink that is not caffeinated will lead to increased water retention, though it may be a small difference. And no, crystal light is fine IMO.
I don't think that's entirely true. I'm certainly not an endurance athlete, but I have heard from some pretty good sources (sadly, I can't remember which) that athletes really tend to overthink it. That's not to say you shouldn't have a plan, but drinking too much is just as bad.
Where are you getting that info from?
i get that information from trainign and doing major length events
In my ironman I had an exact number for calorie intake and water intake, and sodium, and pottasium, and magnesium, and and calcium, and obvioulsy carbs and protien.
As an example- when you come out of a 2.4 mile swim you are NOT thirsty, but you are already starting to dehydrate. As youo start on your 112 mile bike you need to "water and electrolyte up" big time.
On top of that, if you are riding that 6-8 hours on the bike in cool wherther you will not feel thirsty, but you better drink or when you get off that biekl to run 26.2 miles another 4 - 6 hours yoou will cramp immediatley if you have not been eating and drinking.
In my iornman event I ate over 15,000 calories, over 10 grahms of sodium, etc etc etc.....
drank at least 24 oz's per hour, and at the end I had lost 9 lbs, within 13 hours.
well 12:27:43 to be exact!
Now homeboy - you got your information from where again? LOL!
just so I make sure I am clear on what you are saying, I can continue to drink crystal light instead of plain water and recieve the same "benefits" when excercising.
I am a NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB at this diet and nutrition and water crap.
i get that information from trainign and doing major length events
In my ironman I had an exact number for calorie intake and water intake, and sodium, and pottasium, and magnesium, and and calcium, and obvioulsy carbs and protien.
As an example- when you come out of a 2.4 mile swim you are NOT thirsty, but you are already starting to dehydrate. As youo start on your 112 mile bike you need to "water and electrolyte up" big time.
On top of that, if you are riding that 6-8 hours on the bike in cool wherther you will not feel thirsty, but you better drink or when you get off that biekl to run 26.2 miles another 4 - 6 hours yoou will cramp immediatley if you have not been eating and drinking.
In my iornman event I ate over 15,000 calories, over 10 grahms of sodium, etc etc etc.....
drank at least 24 oz's per hour, and at the end I had lost 9 lbs, within 13 hours.
well 12:27:43 to be exact!
Now homeboy - you got your information from where again? LOL!
Remind me not to ever call you out!
I don't think the articles I posted were for heavy duty workouts like triathlons, bike racing, marathons, etc. But, I probably average 1 water bottle (24 oz) per 10 miles when cycling, and probably 24 oz. / 2 miles when running. I am drinking when I get thirsty, it's just that I get thirsty a lot faster when working hard. I still think the body let's you know when you need more fluids.
Haha I wasn't calling you out. That's *****ing aweomse that you do Ironman's by the way.
And I know that you and probably 9 out of 10 of other athletes plan it out just like that. I have just heard that it's not entirely necessary to get that extreme and exact. Have you ever tried any endurance activity without going for those exact numbers? Obviously an Ironman would not be the time to experiment
And I know that you and probably 9 out of 10 of other athletes plan it out just like that. I have just heard that it's not entirely necessary to get that extreme and exact. Have you ever tried any endurance activity without going for those exact numbers? Obviously an Ironman would not be the time to experiment
For me- the further I got into my event the harder it was to folloow my plan because I just wanted to get done.
I didnt even read the article, and you knwo that. I was talkign to YOU.
and rich you are a solid knowledeable athlete. the only thing I can offer to you is to remain that lil bird in your ear.. you will be Ironman soon, and I only hope you hear the "voices" after hour 8,9,10, and 11 that I did.
All the lil things, like drink drink drink, breath, hold your shoulders back, swallow the food, after you chew it, not before, on and on it goes.
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that is so major to read dude. sorry man!
BUT-- a marathon is a 3-4 hour event. When I did my last marathon in Miami, I even had a lil beer after mile 18 and still finished within 4 flat.
G8R is doing much more than a marathon. The marathon is actuially only the 3rd leg of his event, and he will have been on the course for 8 hours or so before starting his marathon.
We are talking an entirely different level of endurance.
Fueling in the first 4-5 hours will determine pace and strength in hours 7-9, etc etc
edit- add on or whatever--- in the run a belly full of fluid will kill ya! SO- it is critical that you are well hydrated befroe you get off your bike, and you do not have a lumpy gut.
How is that for technical? hehehehe
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