Sport The Warrior Diet – Is it Healthy for You?

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I’ve heard a lot about the Warrior Diet lately. It’s supposedly based on the concept of fast and feast eating cycle that our Paleolithic ancestors lived by. It sounds a bit gimmicky (eating nothing but fruits, berries, veggies and a little protein – like nuts – all day, and then feasting at supper) to me, and seems to fly in the face of conventional wisdom (6 small meals a day of protein/carbs/healthy fats).
What is your personal opinion of this eating method?
 
Getting protein only from nuts and getting a very small amount of it will lead to lean tissue loss.

I just launched my programs if you want to check them out.
 
Getting protein only from nuts and getting a very small amount of it will lead to lean tissue loss.

I just launched my programs if you want to check them out.

Actually, the “feasting in the evening” aspect of the diet requires that you eat 6 oz of lean animal protein. If you click on the hyperlink I posted, the diet's tenants are described more in-depth. So you definitely don’t get all your protein from nuts. That’s just for the “fasting” element during the day.

Thanks for the tip – is that information on your website?
 
Actually, the “feasting in the evening” aspect of the diet requires that you eat 6 oz of lean animal protein. If you click on the hyperlink I posted, the diet's tenants are described more in-depth. So you definitely don’t get all your protein from nuts. That’s just for the “fasting” element during the day.

Thanks for the tip – is that information on your website?

Sorry, just didn't have the time to read into it.

Yes, the program is on my site and also posted here.....

http://www.fitness.com/forum/members-lounge/method-diet-training-programs-here-18105.html
 
getting most of your daily food intake in one meal is not really a good idea,simply because of the amount you have to eat.
but having six or eight meals a day is not any better than three either..even though everybody seems to be jumping on the 6 meals a day bandwaggon:rolleyes: no evidence to prove 6 is better than 3:confused:

but there is evidence to prove there is no difference between nibbling and gorging..its what you eat over 24hrs that counts.


Effect of the pattern of food intake on human energy metabolism.

Verboeket-van de Venne WP, Westerterp KR, Kester AD.

Department of Human Biology, University of Limburg, Maastricht, The Netherlands.

The pattern of food intake can affect the regulation of body weight and lipogenesis. We studied the effect of meal frequency on human energy expenditure (EE) and its components. During 1 week ten male adults (age 25-61 years, body mass index 20.7-30.4 kg/m2) were fed to energy balance at two meals/d (gorging pattern) and during another week at seven meals/d (nibbling pattern). For the first 6 d of each week the food was provided at home, followed by a 36 h stay in a respiration chamber. O2 consumption and CO2 production (and hence EE) were calculated over 24 h. EE in free-living conditions was measured over the 2 weeks with doubly-labelled water (average daily metabolic rate, ADMR). The three major components of ADMR are basal metabolic rate (BMR), diet-induced thermogenesis (DIT) and EE for physical activity (ACT). There was no significant effect of meal frequency on 24 h EE or ADMR. Furthermore, BMR and ACT did not differ between the two patterns. DIT was significantly elevated in the gorging pattern, but this effect was neutralized by correction for the relevant time interval. With the method used for determination of DIT no significant effect of meal frequency on the contribution of DIT to ADMR could be demonstrated.


And another:

Br J Nutr. 1997 Apr;77 Suppl 1:S57-70. Links
Meal frequency and energy balance.

* Bellisle F,
* McDevitt R,
* Prentice AM.

INSERM U341, Hotel Dieu de Paris, France.

Several epidemiological studies have observed an inverse relationship between people's habitual frequency of eating and body weight, leading to the suggestion that a 'nibbling' meal pattern may help in the avoidance of obesity. A review of all pertinent studies shows that, although many fail to find any significant relationship, the relationship is consistently inverse in those that do observe a relationship. However, this finding is highly vulnerable to the probable confounding effects of post hoc changes in dietary patterns as a consequence of weight gain and to dietary under-reporting which undoubtedly invalidates some of the studies. We conclude that the epidemiological evidence is at best very weak, and almost certainly represents an artefact. A detailed review of the possible mechanistic explanations for a metabolic advantage of nibbling meal patterns failed to reveal significant benefits in respect of energy expenditure. Although some short-term studies suggest that the thermic effect of feeding is higher when an isoenergetic test load is divided into multiple small meals, other studies refute this, and most are neutral. More importantly, studies using whole-body calorimetry and doubly-labelled water to assess total 24 h energy expenditure find no difference between nibbling and gorging. Finally, with the exception of a single study, there is no evidence that weight loss on hypoenergetic regimens is altered by meal frequency. We conclude that any effects of meal pattern on the regulation of body weight are likely to be mediated through effects on the food intake side of the energy balance equation













Status: online To a group of 8 healthy persons a slightly hypocaloric diet with protein (13% of energy), carbohydrates (46% of energy) and fat (41% of energy) was given as one meal or as five meals in a change-over trial. Each person was 2 weeks on each regimen. Under the conditions of slight undernutrition and neutral temperature the balances of nitrogen, carbon and energy were assessed in 7-day collection periods, and according to 48-hour measurements of gaseous exchange (carbon-nitrogen balance method) by the procedures of indirect calorimetry. Changes of body weight were statistically not significant. At isocaloric supply of metabolizable energy with exactly the same foods in different meal frequencies no differences were found in the retention of carbon and energy. Urinary nitrogen excretion was slightly greater with a single daily meal, indicating influences on protein metabolism. The protein-derived energy was compensated by a decrease in the fat oxidation. The heat production calculated by indirect calorimetry was not significantly different with either meal frequency. Water, sodium and potassium balances were not different. The plasma concentrations of cholesterol and uric acid were not influenced by meal frequency, glucose and triglycerides showed typical behaviour depending on the time interval to the last meal. The results demonstrate that the meal frequency did not influence the energy balance.


Meal frequency influences circulating hormone levels but not lipogenesis rates in humans.

Jones PJ, Namchuk GL, Pederson RA.

Division of Human Nutrition, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada.

To determine whether human lipogenesis is influenced by the frequency of meal consumption, 12 subjects were divided into two groups and fed isocaloric nutritionally adequate liquid diets over 3 days, either as three larger diurnal (n = 6) or as six small, evenly spaced (n = 6) meals per day. On day 2 (08:00 h) of each diet period, 0.7 g deuterium (D) oxide/kg body water was administered and blood was collected every 4 hours over 48 hours for measurement of plasma insulin and glucose-dependent insulinotropic polypeptide (GIP) levels. At each time point, the incorporation of D into plasma triglyceride fatty acid (TG-FA) was also determined by isotope ratio mass spectrometry after TG-FA extraction and combustion/reduction. Insulin and GIP levels were elevated over daytime periods in subjects fed three versus six meals per day. Contribution of de novo synthesis to total TG-FA production was not significantly different for days 2 and 3 in subjects consuming three (6.56% +/- 1.32% and 6.64% +/- 2.08%, respectively) and six (7.67% +/- 2.29% and 7.88% +/- 1.46%, respectively) meals per day. Net TG-FA synthesis rates over days 2 and 3 were 1.47 +/- 0.33 and 1.55 +/- 0.53 g/d, respectively, for subjects fed three meals per day, and 1.64 +/- 0.47 and 1.69 +/- 0.30 g/d for subjects fed six meals per day. These findings suggest that consuming fewer but larger daily meals is not accompanied by increases in TG-FA synthesis, despite the observation of hormonal peaks.
 
The basic premise of the diet despite how dressed up it is is eat very very little through the day and eat a large meal at night.

My 2 cents-skip it and go for something more balanced.
 
getting most of your daily food intake in one meal is not really a good idea,simply because of the amount you have to eat.
but having six or eight meals a day is not any better than three either..even though everybody seems to be jumping on the 6 meals a day bandwaggon:rolleyes: no evidence to prove 6 is better than 3:confused:

In my own experience, there is absolutely no way I can eat enough protein and vegetables if I only eat 3 times a day.
 
I would think that making a diet patterned after "warriors" of the past would not be very applicable to modern people in general. We don't live our lives the slightest bit like they did, so eating more like they ate wouldn't really do much good considering the rest of our lives are completely different than theirs. Unless, of course, you spend your time hunting, farming, building your own shelters, and fighting in hand to hand combat for your life, and all that stuff.
 
Smart A$$ Comment Coming --> --> When did we forget how to eat? When did our lives start to revolve around Internet searches for "how to eat properly"?

Makes me cringe at times.
 
If you want "healthy" this may not be the best way to go. I did the warriors diet sometime ago. The diet goes on the basic premise THIS IS HOW MAN EATS.... I must say the author has a pretty good point. I got pretty shredded using it. I also took a whole mess of supplements to keep me going. Like the author said, my body responded to how I was eating (in 3-4 weeks).

At first is was just all kinds of catabolism going on. I was always hungry and pissed off. Later, I adjusted to the eating and for what it is....it worked just fine.

I had a chance to listen to a bodybuilder who used the same principles with success. Historian type dieters can appreciate the idea of eating like the hunter -gatherers.....and early roman republic citizens.

I really did love the eating one big healthy meal and eating whatever I could possibly want everyhour later. I remember having a whole box of ho-hos waiting for me when I returned home. While I was at work, I just imagined those ho-hos. Funny thing, I could only stand eating about 4 before I gave them up.

There are doctors and other pro types that seem to have good success with a type of hunter-gatherer diet regiment.
 
Funny, where I live in Eastern Europe a lot of people eat like this, they just aren't that into breakfast and lunch. Frankly I don't know how they do it. One guy I know has a tablespoon of honey for breakfast and that's it until suppertime.

Healthy? Probably not, nutrients-wise. But on the other hand, there is no obesity or even over-weight problem here. People in general look very fit and slim.
 
trainerty - thanks for the detailed response. From what you described, it sounds like something you should do for only a short period of time (a few weeks to a month?) in order to lose as much body fat as possible. Like a routine a professional would use before a competition… but not a long-term nutritional plan.
Also, does it basically allow you to eat whatever you want in the evening? I know that I can put away a lot of calories in a short period of time if I put my mind to it. ;) Are you not allowed to eat past a certain time?
 
I definitely would say the diet should be used temporarily. Here's the link to an overlook and interview with the author and his book Testosterone Nation - The Warrior Diet - An Interview With Penthouse Editor Ori Hofmekler

Yes, you can go hog wild AFTER the one good meal you put in you. After my experience with it I would definitely recommend this:
-take a good multi
-lots of water (I screwed that part up...workouts got real ugly)
-take BCAA and l-glutamine every 2-4 hours
- the good meal with animal protein/fish oils/loads of different colored vegatables
- eat whatever drink whatever every hour afterward BUT do not eat when full (I couldn't help myself a few times)
- sub final cheat meal with casein protein shake and more fish oil

If you give it a go goodluck.
 
Thanks for the info! So basically, take the necessary supplements, drink tons of water, and eat just a little throughout the day (fruits, veggies, soup broth, small amounts of protein like egg or tuna) and then veggies and animal protein at night followed by whatever you want?
 
Actually, I believe the effects will be cancelled if you ate throughout the day. Taking in BCAA and glutamine is different than whole foods. I would recommend to stay away from whole foods until it is time for you to eat. Also, drink coffee or take guarana tabs to curve the appetite and keep you a little sharp.
 
Okay, I’m confused now because the Warrior Diet site says you can eat small amounts of fruit/veggies and even something like miso soup or a ½ cup of cottage cheese for protein during the day. So, you’re saying if I were to do this, the BCAAs and L-glutamine would be unnecessary? Or are you saying I wouldn’t be able to eat whatever I want for my evening meal?
 
More of your calories should be consumed for breakfast than at night.
 
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