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Hey all,
This is purely a curiosity question. I'm losing the way most of you recommend anyway; by subtracting from a 'maintenance' level of calories to lose weight. Smaller portions, working out more, etc. So I'm not considering any of this; but I do have a couple of questions.
Throughout this forum people are warning against so called 'starvation diets'. Although I always considered those to be VLCD's (Very Low Calorie Diets) in the range of 500-800 calories per day, y'all are saying that about 1200~1500 calorie diets of very overweight people. I've even heard that it can PERMANENTLY lower your metabolism; though I don't know if that's true. People often quote a study on Holocaust survivors but, there's an enormous difference between the holocaust, and cutting back to 1200 calories a day.
Anyway, so here's my question. What about extreme weight loss through things like bariatric surgery? A woman I know recently underwent gastric bypass and will be eating 300-500 calories a day (for two weeks after the surgery all she had was clear liquids and the occasional broth, that wasn't very much at all!). Naturally, it's all prescribed diets so she gets her nutrients but still. Why won't her metabolism "shut down permanently" or be so ineffective that she will start to gain weight when she begins to increase her calorie load? (And bypass patients do. Overtime their 'pouch' stretches and they begin to consume more; hopefully at about the same time they've lost all of their weight).
From what I understand, my assumption is because she'll be eating many times throughout the day, stimulating her metabolism, in addition to ensuring she has all of the proper nutrients. When I was 12 years old my appendix ruptured and damaged my kidney. After emergency surgery I spent 15 days in the hospital and didn't eat until day 12. IV nutrition gave me everything I needed, including the calories; but the point is you do not have to PHYSICALLY eat enough food to get your nutrients. It can be done in a nutrient rich diet.
So I just wonder; could a 'gastric bypass' style diet, on a 'non bypass' person work? I'm not considering it. I would be miserable eating 500 calories a day and I'm too active for that. But I was just curious. As I read all of this info here that I've read elsewhere AND heard from my doctor on eating properly and having the right amount of calories; I just began to wonder 'What's different' about these bariatric surgery patients?
Anyway. Just me being curious!
-John
This is purely a curiosity question. I'm losing the way most of you recommend anyway; by subtracting from a 'maintenance' level of calories to lose weight. Smaller portions, working out more, etc. So I'm not considering any of this; but I do have a couple of questions.
Throughout this forum people are warning against so called 'starvation diets'. Although I always considered those to be VLCD's (Very Low Calorie Diets) in the range of 500-800 calories per day, y'all are saying that about 1200~1500 calorie diets of very overweight people. I've even heard that it can PERMANENTLY lower your metabolism; though I don't know if that's true. People often quote a study on Holocaust survivors but, there's an enormous difference between the holocaust, and cutting back to 1200 calories a day.
Anyway, so here's my question. What about extreme weight loss through things like bariatric surgery? A woman I know recently underwent gastric bypass and will be eating 300-500 calories a day (for two weeks after the surgery all she had was clear liquids and the occasional broth, that wasn't very much at all!). Naturally, it's all prescribed diets so she gets her nutrients but still. Why won't her metabolism "shut down permanently" or be so ineffective that she will start to gain weight when she begins to increase her calorie load? (And bypass patients do. Overtime their 'pouch' stretches and they begin to consume more; hopefully at about the same time they've lost all of their weight).
From what I understand, my assumption is because she'll be eating many times throughout the day, stimulating her metabolism, in addition to ensuring she has all of the proper nutrients. When I was 12 years old my appendix ruptured and damaged my kidney. After emergency surgery I spent 15 days in the hospital and didn't eat until day 12. IV nutrition gave me everything I needed, including the calories; but the point is you do not have to PHYSICALLY eat enough food to get your nutrients. It can be done in a nutrient rich diet.
So I just wonder; could a 'gastric bypass' style diet, on a 'non bypass' person work? I'm not considering it. I would be miserable eating 500 calories a day and I'm too active for that. But I was just curious. As I read all of this info here that I've read elsewhere AND heard from my doctor on eating properly and having the right amount of calories; I just began to wonder 'What's different' about these bariatric surgery patients?
Anyway. Just me being curious!
-John