Stages of Fat Loss

deafguy35

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Hey everyone,

I have lost 50 pounds in 2000, and gained it back two years ago... so it has been a while since I remember how my body started losing fat.

As an example, today I have noticed that the area near my obliques feel more loose. Is this a sign of losing fat? When one is gaining weight (i.e. getting fatter), body becomes more "fat", and the fat feels more "tight"?

When losing fat, it should feel more loose or feel more tighter?

Yes, I read in the stickies, and nothing has mentioned about the stages of fat loss.

Thanks! :)

Mike
 
That's how it felt when I started losing weight. When I was starting out, it felt like the fat was tightly packed in. Then it started feeling like some of it was taken out and the rest had more room to move around. Not how it works, but that's how it felt for me. It's like a pillow that lost some stuffing :blush5:
 
Yeah I got that feeling too... i felt like i could feel the muscles and stuff under there easier too like the fat sort of moves out of the way easier lol if that makes sence...
 
I know kind of what your saying.

I noticed my love handles and my inner thighs are not smaller but they are just different. Like i can tell that the fat is starting to recede and my body and skin feel different after losing so much weight.
 
Often times people explain that their fat gets squishy just before they lose it.

Here's a nice sticky regarding the topic from over at Lyle McDonald's forum:

It's something I've mentioned over the years, an assertion that my exercise physiology professor had made wrt: fat loss.

Note that under normal conditions, fat cells contain ~90% triglycerides and ~10% other stuff where other stuff includes some water, the cellular machinery that makes all the stuff that fat cells make and a couple of other things that I'm forgetting right now. Basically, fat cells do not normally contain much water.

He told us that, after triglycerides were removed from the cell, that the fat cells refilled with water in the short-term, eventually the body dropped that water and the fat loss 'became evident' (a goofy way for me to try to describe when the fat loss actually shows up on calipers, one of those dumb Tanita scales, or visually).

If nothing else, this gives a plausible mechanism for the non-linear fat loss that is so often seen. Folks will do everything right for weeks with no results. then overnight, something happens and the scale drops a bunch. Many diet newsgroups and forums refer to this as a 'whoosh' which often follows a stall.

A couple of empirical data points in support of this: people who use tanita scales have often reported that it will tell them that their BF has gone up right before a 'whoosh' occurs and a big drop. This suggests something goofy is going on with water balance.

Another is that fat often gets squishy (suggesting a change in what's in there) prior to a drop in skinfolds/ improvement in appearance.

I looked for research on the topic for a decade to no success. I made up my own plausible mechanism having to do with glycerol levels in the fat cell (glycerol is hydrophilic); if fatty acids were being lost at a greater proportion than glycerol, this mght explain how water is attracted into the fat cell. Except that, usually, glycerol and fatty acid are released in about the proportion you'd expect (3:1 FFA:glycerol).

edit: For what very little it's worth, Colgan mentions something similar in OPtimum Sports Nutrition, something about the body 'tracking' glycerol to keep track of fat stores. It's possible that the research on this is just pre-medline. Or he and my teacher just pulled it out of the old ass.

A couple of years back, a paper came out showing an increase in water content of visceral fat with dieting. First semi-direct data I've seen. I don't recall the mechanism being mentioned but I may not have ever read the full paper.

I keep meaning to look into what happens to water balance hormones with dieting, but my laziness is just truly profound.

Edit: Of course, if I suppose if I ever got off my ass and figured out what was causing it, I could try to figure out how to fix it. But, see: profound laziness.... It's probably just a matter of drinking a shitton of water so that your body will quit being weird and holding onto what's in the system.

As a weird addendum: many folks have noticed that a refeed can often trigger a 'whoosh'. Is this somehow affecting water balance (this would make sense given the relationships of carbs and water, carbs tend to pull water into the muscle cells)? Is it that the increase in leptin that accompanies refeeds does something nifty? I have no answers but it's something some have noticed/mentioned, including myself. You'll have someone who dieted hard for a week or two and nothing appears to be happening. Then they'll go 'fuck it' and have a big cheat/meal or short refeed. And wake up 4 lbs lighter with a visual difference.
 
I like the idea Steve. It Makes sence. Though I'm a little confused with the techinical aspect, I generally get what your saying and it would explain my weight pattern and how I feel physically, externally and internally. Thanks :D
 
Yay! Glad to hear that the squishy-factor is a good sign. My belly is almost like water now, you can poke lightly and see the ripple all across. Kinda gross, kinda glad it's not tight with fat.
 
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