So hard to resist

[SmithMachine]

Working at macas and not eating the burgers is hard i gave in because i dident bring any lunch with me and i had 2 cheese burgers and one double cheese burger :drooling1:...allways choose to drink water tho

 

[flyinfree]

daaaaang!! 3 burgers in one shift... hahahaa you will be ok... but obviously you wish you wouldn't have.... or we wouldn't have this post...

snap out of it and do better,,, if ya wanna

FF

 

[philsaigon]

Change your job

Get yourself a different job! When I was in school(I'm assuming your young), I worked as a bike messenger in the city(Chicago). I must've ridden over a hundred miles a day. I was lean(what happened later is another story) and getting paid for it, working outdoors, no stress, looking at the lovely ladies all day... Blow that burger joint.

Btw, check out Fast Food Nation. Just saw it the other night...pretty interesting film.

 

[SmithMachine]

that would be pretty cool...what was the other story now that you got my interest ...downloading fast food nation now

 

[Typhon]

Btw, check out Fast Food Nation. Just saw it the other night...pretty interesting film.

The book is a thousand times better, you'll see why KFC is so lacking in nutrition once you read about the way they're raised. And the history of McDonalds is amazing, they are evil to the core, read about what they did to one store when it's staff threatened to join a union!

A trick I used to stop myself eating stuff like chicken nugets was to look at pictures of mechanically proccessed chicken before it gets formed back into shape, it's disgusting.

 

[Streamline]

Working at macas and not eating the burgers is hard i gave in because i dident bring any lunch with me and i had 2 cheese burgers and one double cheese burger :drooling1:...allways choose to drink water tho

That's a snack.

 

[Starcraftmazter]

Man, I'd throw up if I worked in a fast food chain. I'd be like "EWWWW *PUKE*" every time someone ate anything there....

Maybe try eating before working there, so you don't feel hungry around fast food.

 

[Gus1]

Man, I'd throw up if I worked in a fast food chain. I'd be like "EWWWW *PUKE*" every time someone ate anything there....

Maybe try eating before working there, so you don't feel hungry around fast food.

I work at maccas, and really, I dont get cravings. Sure, it smells great, and sometimes even looks great, but then I think about the harm it could do. There are so many people who come through and eat that crap, I dont know how they cant feel guilty after eating it!

Although what am I saying? Those people give me my money.

 

[Tanizaki]

The book is a thousand times better, you'll see why KFC is so lacking in nutrition once you read about the way they're raised.

This I would love to hear, especially since KFC does not raise its own chickens any more than Burger King maintains fish hatcheries to make the Big Fish sandwich. KFC buys its chickens from the same places as everyone else, including you and me.

And the history of McDonalds is amazing, they are evil to the core, read about what they did to one store when it's staff threatened to join a union!

Nothing evil about that in the slightest. I hate unions. Maybe unions had a purpose 100 years ago when there were no labor laws, but now they only exist to bilk money out of management. I look for the union label so I know what not to buy.

EDIT: What the hell is macas? I assume it means McDonald's. Is that the new hip slang the young folk are using these days? Having a day job, I lack a familiarity with the "language of the streets", and it makes it quite difficult for me to "keep it real".

 

[MarkMyWords]

I was confused about that too, apparently macas is what they call McDonalds in Austrailia. And I sorta have to agree with you on unions. That's why our domestic car industry is in such shambles here, paying loads of money to bastard unions. No offense to anyone in unions, they just annoy me sometimes too, and hell, my mom is in one...

 

[Typhon]

This I would love to hear, especially since KFC does not raise its own chickens any more than Burger King maintains fish hatcheries to make the Big Fish sandwich. KFC buys its chickens from the same places as everyone else, including you and me.

Both McDonalds and KFC have farms contracted to supply them exclusively and each farm operates in identical fashion so it is far from being the same stuff that everyone else buys, you'll even see that on a lot of McDonalds advertising, they claim it means they can ensure that quality is maintained.
In the case of KFC they control every part of the process and the farmer does nothing but watch over the process, the farmer doesn't even breed the chickens himself, they are delivered soon after hatching. The farm itself may well be owned by someone else but the entire process is controlled by the fast food chain.

If you doubt the quality of the claims provided by the book it's worth a mention that it was the only book that criticized the fast food industry that recieved no legal challenges from the industry.
Read the book and then see what you think about it, it's not as critical and sensationalist as crap films like 'Supersize Me', in fact it says many positive things about their current operating practices as well as the negative

 

[Typhon]

Nothing evil about that in the slightest. I hate unions. Maybe unions had a purpose 100 years ago when there were no labor laws, but now they only exist to bilk money out of management. I look for the union label so I know what not to buy.

Forgot to reply to this bit, I too hate unions and would never join one as I think they promote lazyness and slack standards but what McDonalds did is unbelievable

What happened was a few of their staff in one branch wanted to join a workers union. Management heard about this so flew a specialist team to interview every staff member individually to find out who was behind the idea.
The interviews didn't work so the day before the staff were due to join the union McDonlds shut down the store making everyone redundant and then opened a new store across the road. They only re-employed the staff who had shown themselves to be anti-union in the interviews and started them all back up on new starter contracts which meant none of them could join a union (also back on starter salaries no doubt).

It doesn't matter if you like unions or not, the fact is the workers had a legal right to join the union and McDonalds decided to side step the law by flexing their financial muscle. A company shouldn't be able to act in that way

 

[Tanizaki]

Both McDonalds and KFC have farms contracted to supply them exclusively and each farm operates in identical fashion so it is far from being the same stuff that everyone else buys, you'll even see that on a lot of McDonalds advertising, they claim it means they can ensure that quality is maintained.

While I am sure there are farms that have exclusive relationships with McD and KFC, that is not their only or even primary source of meat. The sheer volume of product these chains ouytput every year simply doesn't make that level of micromanagement practical.

Additionally, these are multinational corporations. Am I to believe that agricultural laws and regulations are the same throughout the world? Or, do you propose that the KFC outlets in Japan have their chicken shipped from the American midwest?

In the case of KFC they control every part of the process and the farmer does nothing but watch over the process, the farmer doesn't even breed the chickens himself, they are delivered soon after hatching. The farm itself may well be owned by someone else but the entire process is controlled by the fast food chain.

I am sorry, but this is simply a false statement of fact. I am interested to learn from you how the chemical composition of muscle differs between a "KFC chicken" and a chicken that I might buy at the local grocery store.

If you doubt the quality of the claims provided by the book it's worth a mention that it was the only book that criticized the fast food industry that recieved no legal challenges from the industry.

That proves nothing. I am pretty sure I learned that in law school. Do you assume that every statement that is not legally challenged is de facto 100% accurate?

Read the book and then see what you think about it, it's not as critical and sensationalist as crap films like 'Supersize Me', in fact it says many positive things about their current operating practices as well as the negative

That's all fine and good, but your claim about the nutritional content of the chicken flesh remains unsubstantiated.

 

[Tanizaki]

Forgot to reply to this bit, I too hate unions and would never join one as I think they promote lazyness and slack standards but what McDonalds did is unbelievable

What happened was a few of their staff in one branch wanted to join a workers union. Management heard about this so flew a specialist team to interview every staff member individually to find out who was behind the idea.
The interviews didn't work so the day before the staff were due to join the union McDonlds shut down the store making everyone redundant and then opened a new store across the road. They only re-employed the staff who had shown themselves to be anti-union in the interviews and started them all back up on new starter contracts which meant none of them could join a union (also back on starter salaries no doubt).

It doesn't matter if you like unions or not, the fact is the workers had a legal right to join the union and McDonalds decided to side step the law by flexing their financial muscle. A company shouldn't be able to act in that way

McDonald's is one of the best union busting companies ever, and I love it. You forgot to mention how they shut down a restaurant after a bunch of its employees requested union certification.

 

[Typhon]

I am sorry, but this is simply a false statement of fact. I am interested to learn from you how the chemical composition of muscle differs between a "KFC chicken" and a chicken that I might buy at the local grocery store.


That's all fine and good, but your claim about the nutritional content of the chicken flesh remains unsubstantiated.

I now have to provide evidence that the nutritional value of battery farm Chickens is less than that of a normal healthy Chicken? If you don't know such basic things then why are you even commenting in this thread?

A chicken from a battery farm is low on muscle and ill, they are also high in fat, this is reflected in the nutritional value of the meat they provide. A KFC chicken is killed when it's 41 days old if it's managed to live that long, do you really think that's normal healthy growth?

 

[calcium]

I now have to provide evidence that the nutritional value of battery farm Chickens is less than that of a normal healthy Chicken? If you don't know such basic things then why are you even commenting in this thread?

Excellent point.

 

[Tanizaki]

I now have to provide evidence that the nutritional value of battery farm Chickens is less than that of a normal healthy Chicken? If you don't know such basic things then why are you even commenting in this thread?

Yes, you do. You have made an affirmative claim, and therefore, the burden of prove rests with you. It is not sufficient to roll your eyes and say, "I can't believe that you don't know this!"

A chicken from a battery farm is low on muscle and ill, they are also high in fat, this is reflected in the nutritional value of the meat they provide. A KFC chicken is killed when it's 41 days old if it's managed to live that long, do you really think that's normal healthy growth?

Like I said, KFC gets it chicken from the same places we do. What chicken do you think is for sale in the supermarket that isn't from a battery farm? If you think "free range" is the answer, think again. According to US FDA guidelines, the chicken is free range so long as a door in the coop is opened for a few minutes each day. I see that you are not in the US, so there is a chance that your country's definition of "free range" is vastly different, but I doubt it.

Furthermore, the average age of the chicken in your supermarket is about 5-6 weeks, so 41 days seems pretty spot on. I don't know why you are surprised by all this.

Thanks for the laugh!

 

[theGOOCH]

When did the term "macas" come into use? I must be out of it.

I used to eat so much garbage I think I got the cravings out of my system. Fast food, ice cream etc. doesn't even sound good to me anymore.


...and about unions. I think that organized labor is a good thing in theory, but in practice all they generally do is take your money and try to tell you who to vote for (their supporters)

I'm pretty middle-of-the-road, but the union newsletter I used to get (AFSCME)looked like a leftist rag from Berkeley or something. I don't know how the redneck types put up with that.

 

[SmithMachine]

Macas has been around in Australia for like 6 years. not new at all...

 

[Typhon]

According to US FDA guidelines, the chicken is free range so long as a door in the coop is opened for a few minutes each day. I see that you are not in the US, so there is a chance that your country's definition of "free range" is vastly different, but I doubt it.

OK, if what you're saying about US guidlines is correct then the US and UK have wildly different classifications regarding 'free range', although I find the definition you gave as hard to believe. If this is true and 'free range' Chickens are not given room to move about then why do the US people accept this?

A lot of UK supermakets name the farm the Chickens came from so you can research the place yourself. For example, I know the farm that provides the eggs I buy and their chickens have acres of space to run around in outside. They cost twice the price but the yolks are big, orange and taste fantastic

The UK definitions are below, although the minimum standards still aren't great, they sound far superior to the American ones

Taken from the DEFRA website; (department for Environment, Food and rural affairs)

the birds have had during at least half their lifetime continuous daytime access to open-air runs, comprising an area mainly covered by vegetation, of not less than:

1m² per chicken or guinea fowl (in the case of guinea fowls, open-air runs may be replaced by a perchery having a floor space of at least that of the house and a height of at least 2m, with perches of at least 10 cm length available per bird in total (house and perchery)).


Age at slaughter must be:

Chickens = 56 days or later


The feed formula used in the fattening stage contains at least 70% of cereals, and the poultry house must also be provided with pop holes of a combined length at least equal to 4 m per 100m² floor space of the house.