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skillet2001
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I agree. I am tired of generic trainers passing themselves off as qualified professionals. Every Scirion Institute of Exercise Physiology trainer I've hired at my gym is knowledgable and serious about the fitness industry.
Scirion Institute of Exercise Physiology
Hi Guys! (and/or Ladies!) I am certified through Scirion Institute of Exercise Physiology and I can say their exam is harder than ACE, NASM, and AFAA. There are six trainers at my gym and I bet none of them would even be working if the only option they had to get certified was through Scirion Institute!
Steve Relesser
Hi Guys! (and/or Ladies!) I am certified through Scirion Institute of Exercise Physiology and I can say their exam is harder than ACE, NASM, and AFAA. There are six trainers at my gym and I bet none of them would even be working if the only option they had to get certified was through Scirion Institute!
Steve Relesser
Scirion Institute of Exercise Physiology
Hello everyone! I was doing a search on Scirion Institute and I agree with you guys. When I first heard all the hype on these guys, I was very skeptical. I kept thinking, "How different good these guys be?... a fitness program is a fitness program". Well after getting tired of listening to a friend of mind dog my certificate time after time, I decided to cough up some savings and try them out. I failed the first time but passed the second because I got the materials for the second go around. I recommend them only to experienced trainers or those with a fitness related degree. It is apparent to me that they are not interested in certifying the "intellectually challenged". Thanks Carlson for hounding me!!!
Anyway, I thought I'd contribute to the site by sharing what I know about nutrition. I'll start with protien. Enjoy!
Amino Acids make up protein.
Protein makes up basically everything in your body.
In fact the only thing our body has more of than protein is water.
It really is as simple as that. Protein is the building block of our whole body - muscles, tissues, hair, nails, etc - all made up of protein. If you do not have enough protein in your body you can NOT build muscle mass. The body needs to break protein down to amino acids to build muscles. So, no matter how much you work out - if you don't have protein - you will not gain muscle mass.
Another important point to remember is that every time you work out you are tearing down muscles and then rebuilding them. Protein is necessary to repair and rebuild your muscles.
What types of foods have protein?
Protein is found in common foods such as beef, fish, chicken, milk, eggs and cheese. Eating a diet rich in these foods is a good way to get protein. Unfortunately it can also be a good way to increase a lot of other things you don't want in your body like fats and sugars.
Here are some common foods and their levels of protein:
Food Amount of Protein
3 oz. broiled ground beef 21 grams
3 oz. roasted ham 18 grams
3 oz. veal -broiled 23 grams
3.5 oz. roasted chicken 27 grams
3.5 oz. baked/roasted salmon 27 grams
3.5 oz. tuna canned in water 28 grams
1 beef frankfurter 6 grams
1 oz. sliced ham 5 grams
1 large boiled egg 6 grams
1 cup of Milk 8 grams
Don't I get enough protein from my diet?
If you work out - probably not. New studies from the International Journal of Sports Nutrition show that someone who works out should ingest significantly more protein than couch potatoes.
How much protein should I take?
Unfortunately, there is no exact answer to this question. There are a two different formulas that are commonly used:
1. To ensure that the body is in a positive muscle building state, in other words, that it is burning fat--not muscle, you should ingest at least .9 grams of protein per lean pound of body weight.
For example, a 200 lb. man with 12% bodyfat requires 158 grams of protein daily.
200 X .12 = 24 lbs
200 - 24 = 176 lbs
176 X .9 = 158 gms
2. The latest study from the International Journal of Sports Nutrition says that people involved in strength training should get 1.6 - 1.7 grams protein per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of bodyweight per day. That is .7 grams per pound. Therefore, a 200 lb man (200 * .7) would need 140 grams of protein. Slightly less than the first formula.
As an estimate we figure that you should consume between .7 - .9 grams of protein per pound of body weight. These number vary based on the amount of body fat you have. Women have higher body fat than men, so they should be on the lower end of the scale. Here are some examples:
150 pounds = 105 - 135 grams of protein a day
160 pounds = 112 - 144 grams of protein a day
170 pounds = 119 - 153 grams of protein a day
180 pounds = 126 - 162 grams of protein a day
190 pounds = 133 - 171 grams of protein a day
200 pounds = 140 - 180 grams of protein a day
220 pounds = 154 - 198 grams of protein a day
240 pounds = 168 - 216 grams of protein a day
260 pounds = 182 - 234 grams of protein a day
Are all protein supplements the same?
No. Protein supplements can be made from a few different source of protein. These include milk protein, egg protein, soy protein. In addition, not all protein is absorbed in the same way in the body. The better a protein is absorbed by the body the higher the Biological Value (BV) the protein is said to have.
What is the BV rating I see associated with protein?
This measures the amount of protein ( or more precisely - the nitrogen) retained in the human body per gram of protein absorbed. This measure started out as a percentage - with a whole egg being at the top of the chart - 100% nitrogen absorbed. However, things got a little more confusing when Whey Protein was discovered. The problem is whey is a better source of protein than an egg - so it actually scores higher than 100. This means the percentage must be dropped - because greater than 100% does not make much sense. So, today BV is a number which lets you compare different types of protein. Here is the BV of some common foods:
Protein BV
Whey isolate 110-159
Whey concentrate 104
Whole egg 100
Cow's milk 91
Egg white 88
Fish 83
Beef 80
Chicken 79
Casein 77
Soy 74
Rice 59
Wheat 54
Beans 49
What is Whey Protein and why is it good?
Whey Protein is derived from milk protein. However, unlike milk proteins - whey protein does not contain fat or lactose sugar. Whey protein is the best form of protein to take when using a supplement. Basically with Whey Protein you get all the advantages of protein without the excess baggage other proteins come with - no fat and no lactose. Not only that, studies have shown that Whey Protein can increase our blood levels of glutathione. Glutathione is an antioxidant which is essential to a healthy immune system. As we get older glutathione levels decrease and our immune system weakens. Studies are still being done - but at the University of Nebraska Medical center they were able to extend the life span of hamsters by 60% by supplementing their diet with Whey Protein. So, whey protein is not only good for building and repairing muscles, it also may extend your life.
What are the reasons I should supplement with whey protein?
* To build muscle mass
* To speed recovery time
* Reduce injuries related to working out
* Maintain a healthy and fit body
* Feel better during your workouts
Will taking protein make me fat?
No - in fact it may help you if you are on a diet. You see the amino acids in protein may help keep your blood sugar levels stabile. This is important because it keeps you feeling good all day and stops your craving for food that occurs when your blood sugar level drops. If your diet is too high in carbohydrates your blood sugar levels go though peaks and valleys. You go from a burst of energy and feeling full to a lull and being hungry. In addition, if you are dieting, getting 17 grams of protein from a protein shake that has only 90 calories is better than getting your protein from a big meal which may have hundreds of calories.
How Do You Compare Protein Products?
Very carefully! I will be honest with you, it is very hard to get the facts from a quick look at the labels. If you want to compare two competing products here are some tips to make sure you are comparing apples to apples:
* Make sure both products are Ion-Exchanged Whey Protein. This is one thing everyone agrees on - Whey Protein is much better than egg protein.
* Whey Protein can be made of concentrate, isolate or a a combination of the two. Isolate is more expensive than concentrate - but has a higher Biological Value. On paper a pure Whey Protein Isolate mix is going to be the highest quality. However, in practice we feel a blend of concentrate and isolate provides the best bang for the buck. It is not clear that the benefits of only taking Isolate are significant enough to merit the steep increase in price over a good blend.
* Watch out for the Serving Size trick. What you really want to look at is amount of protein per gram. Scoops come in all sizes - so a company could advertise "50 grams per serving". But if a serving is 75 grams of powder - this is not a high quality protein. On the other hand a product like Optimum 100% Whey Protein has 22 grams of protein in a 28.4 gram serving size. As you can see this is a much better ratio.
* Compare all other ingredients. You may not want aspartame in your protein. You also need to compare calories, carbs, taste, etc. As you can see - it can be very difficult.
Why do we recommend Optimum 100% Whey Protein and MHP Methoxy Meal?
We encourage our customers to comparison shop - that is what we did when trying to find a protein powder and meal replacement to carry for our customers. It was a very hard decision - but after careful evaluation of quality first, then price value - we found a few that we like. 100% Whey Protein by Optimum and Methoxy Meal to fit the bill.
Protein Powder
We just recently were able to get a great deal on the Optimum 100% Whey Protein and it has quickly moved its way to the top of our list. It is a great blend of whey protein Isolate and concentrate, tastes great and is very affordable. We have always liked the Ultimate Protein - but we now feel that the Optimum 100% Whey Protein is every bit as good (it actually has slightly higher protein ratio) and at a better price per pound.
Meal Replacements
A meal replacement also needs to have high quality whey protein to be effective. After looking at products from EAS (Myoplex) and MuscleTech (Meso-Tech) we found that Methoxy Meal from MHP was the best product on the market. With 45 grams of Whey Protein, ZMA and Methoxy Isoflavone - Methoxy Meal is an excellent choice for a complete meal replacement drink.
Hello everyone! I was doing a search on Scirion Institute and I agree with you guys. When I first heard all the hype on these guys, I was very skeptical. I kept thinking, "How different good these guys be?... a fitness program is a fitness program". Well after getting tired of listening to a friend of mind dog my certificate time after time, I decided to cough up some savings and try them out. I failed the first time but passed the second because I got the materials for the second go around. I recommend them only to experienced trainers or those with a fitness related degree. It is apparent to me that they are not interested in certifying the "intellectually challenged". Thanks Carlson for hounding me!!!
Anyway, I thought I'd contribute to the site by sharing what I know about nutrition. I'll start with protien. Enjoy!
Amino Acids make up protein.
Protein makes up basically everything in your body.
In fact the only thing our body has more of than protein is water.
It really is as simple as that. Protein is the building block of our whole body - muscles, tissues, hair, nails, etc - all made up of protein. If you do not have enough protein in your body you can NOT build muscle mass. The body needs to break protein down to amino acids to build muscles. So, no matter how much you work out - if you don't have protein - you will not gain muscle mass.
Another important point to remember is that every time you work out you are tearing down muscles and then rebuilding them. Protein is necessary to repair and rebuild your muscles.
What types of foods have protein?
Protein is found in common foods such as beef, fish, chicken, milk, eggs and cheese. Eating a diet rich in these foods is a good way to get protein. Unfortunately it can also be a good way to increase a lot of other things you don't want in your body like fats and sugars.
Here are some common foods and their levels of protein:
Food Amount of Protein
3 oz. broiled ground beef 21 grams
3 oz. roasted ham 18 grams
3 oz. veal -broiled 23 grams
3.5 oz. roasted chicken 27 grams
3.5 oz. baked/roasted salmon 27 grams
3.5 oz. tuna canned in water 28 grams
1 beef frankfurter 6 grams
1 oz. sliced ham 5 grams
1 large boiled egg 6 grams
1 cup of Milk 8 grams
Don't I get enough protein from my diet?
If you work out - probably not. New studies from the International Journal of Sports Nutrition show that someone who works out should ingest significantly more protein than couch potatoes.
How much protein should I take?
Unfortunately, there is no exact answer to this question. There are a two different formulas that are commonly used:
1. To ensure that the body is in a positive muscle building state, in other words, that it is burning fat--not muscle, you should ingest at least .9 grams of protein per lean pound of body weight.
For example, a 200 lb. man with 12% bodyfat requires 158 grams of protein daily.
200 X .12 = 24 lbs
200 - 24 = 176 lbs
176 X .9 = 158 gms
2. The latest study from the International Journal of Sports Nutrition says that people involved in strength training should get 1.6 - 1.7 grams protein per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of bodyweight per day. That is .7 grams per pound. Therefore, a 200 lb man (200 * .7) would need 140 grams of protein. Slightly less than the first formula.
As an estimate we figure that you should consume between .7 - .9 grams of protein per pound of body weight. These number vary based on the amount of body fat you have. Women have higher body fat than men, so they should be on the lower end of the scale. Here are some examples:
150 pounds = 105 - 135 grams of protein a day
160 pounds = 112 - 144 grams of protein a day
170 pounds = 119 - 153 grams of protein a day
180 pounds = 126 - 162 grams of protein a day
190 pounds = 133 - 171 grams of protein a day
200 pounds = 140 - 180 grams of protein a day
220 pounds = 154 - 198 grams of protein a day
240 pounds = 168 - 216 grams of protein a day
260 pounds = 182 - 234 grams of protein a day
Are all protein supplements the same?
No. Protein supplements can be made from a few different source of protein. These include milk protein, egg protein, soy protein. In addition, not all protein is absorbed in the same way in the body. The better a protein is absorbed by the body the higher the Biological Value (BV) the protein is said to have.
What is the BV rating I see associated with protein?
This measures the amount of protein ( or more precisely - the nitrogen) retained in the human body per gram of protein absorbed. This measure started out as a percentage - with a whole egg being at the top of the chart - 100% nitrogen absorbed. However, things got a little more confusing when Whey Protein was discovered. The problem is whey is a better source of protein than an egg - so it actually scores higher than 100. This means the percentage must be dropped - because greater than 100% does not make much sense. So, today BV is a number which lets you compare different types of protein. Here is the BV of some common foods:
Protein BV
Whey isolate 110-159
Whey concentrate 104
Whole egg 100
Cow's milk 91
Egg white 88
Fish 83
Beef 80
Chicken 79
Casein 77
Soy 74
Rice 59
Wheat 54
Beans 49
What is Whey Protein and why is it good?
Whey Protein is derived from milk protein. However, unlike milk proteins - whey protein does not contain fat or lactose sugar. Whey protein is the best form of protein to take when using a supplement. Basically with Whey Protein you get all the advantages of protein without the excess baggage other proteins come with - no fat and no lactose. Not only that, studies have shown that Whey Protein can increase our blood levels of glutathione. Glutathione is an antioxidant which is essential to a healthy immune system. As we get older glutathione levels decrease and our immune system weakens. Studies are still being done - but at the University of Nebraska Medical center they were able to extend the life span of hamsters by 60% by supplementing their diet with Whey Protein. So, whey protein is not only good for building and repairing muscles, it also may extend your life.
What are the reasons I should supplement with whey protein?
* To build muscle mass
* To speed recovery time
* Reduce injuries related to working out
* Maintain a healthy and fit body
* Feel better during your workouts
Will taking protein make me fat?
No - in fact it may help you if you are on a diet. You see the amino acids in protein may help keep your blood sugar levels stabile. This is important because it keeps you feeling good all day and stops your craving for food that occurs when your blood sugar level drops. If your diet is too high in carbohydrates your blood sugar levels go though peaks and valleys. You go from a burst of energy and feeling full to a lull and being hungry. In addition, if you are dieting, getting 17 grams of protein from a protein shake that has only 90 calories is better than getting your protein from a big meal which may have hundreds of calories.
How Do You Compare Protein Products?
Very carefully! I will be honest with you, it is very hard to get the facts from a quick look at the labels. If you want to compare two competing products here are some tips to make sure you are comparing apples to apples:
* Make sure both products are Ion-Exchanged Whey Protein. This is one thing everyone agrees on - Whey Protein is much better than egg protein.
* Whey Protein can be made of concentrate, isolate or a a combination of the two. Isolate is more expensive than concentrate - but has a higher Biological Value. On paper a pure Whey Protein Isolate mix is going to be the highest quality. However, in practice we feel a blend of concentrate and isolate provides the best bang for the buck. It is not clear that the benefits of only taking Isolate are significant enough to merit the steep increase in price over a good blend.
* Watch out for the Serving Size trick. What you really want to look at is amount of protein per gram. Scoops come in all sizes - so a company could advertise "50 grams per serving". But if a serving is 75 grams of powder - this is not a high quality protein. On the other hand a product like Optimum 100% Whey Protein has 22 grams of protein in a 28.4 gram serving size. As you can see this is a much better ratio.
* Compare all other ingredients. You may not want aspartame in your protein. You also need to compare calories, carbs, taste, etc. As you can see - it can be very difficult.
Why do we recommend Optimum 100% Whey Protein and MHP Methoxy Meal?
We encourage our customers to comparison shop - that is what we did when trying to find a protein powder and meal replacement to carry for our customers. It was a very hard decision - but after careful evaluation of quality first, then price value - we found a few that we like. 100% Whey Protein by Optimum and Methoxy Meal to fit the bill.
Protein Powder
We just recently were able to get a great deal on the Optimum 100% Whey Protein and it has quickly moved its way to the top of our list. It is a great blend of whey protein Isolate and concentrate, tastes great and is very affordable. We have always liked the Ultimate Protein - but we now feel that the Optimum 100% Whey Protein is every bit as good (it actually has slightly higher protein ratio) and at a better price per pound.
Meal Replacements
A meal replacement also needs to have high quality whey protein to be effective. After looking at products from EAS (Myoplex) and MuscleTech (Meso-Tech) we found that Methoxy Meal from MHP was the best product on the market. With 45 grams of Whey Protein, ZMA and Methoxy Isoflavone - Methoxy Meal is an excellent choice for a complete meal replacement drink.
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Scirion Institute nutrition
Good stuff Polk. Here some for ya:
Optical Properties of the Amino Acids
A tetrahedral carbon atom with 4 distinct constituents is said to be chiral. The one amino acid not exhibiting chirality is glycine since its '"R-group" is a hydrogen atom. Chirality describes the handedness of a molecule that is observable by the ability of a molecule to rotate the plane of polarized light either to the right (dextrorotatory) or to the left (levorotatory). All of the amino acids in proteins exhibit the same absolute steric configuration as L-glyceraldehyde. Therefore, they are all L-a-amino acids. D-amino acids are never found in proteins, although they exist in nature. D-amino acids are often found in polypetide antibiotics.
The aromatic R-groups in amino acids absorb ultraviolet light with an absorbance maximum in the range of 280nm. The ability of proteins to absorb ultraviolet light is predominantly due to the presence of the tryptophan which strongly absorbs ultraviolet light.
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The Peptide Bond
Peptide bond formation is a condensation reaction leading to the polymerization of amino acids into peptides and proteins. Peptides are small consisting of few amino acids. A number of hormones and neurotransmitters are peptides. Additionally, several antibiotics and antitumor agents are peptides. Proteins are polypeptides of greatly divergent length. The simplest peptide, a dipeptide, contains a single peptide bond formed by the condensation of the carboxyl group of one amino acid with the amino group of the second with the concomitant elimination of water. The presence of the carbonyl group in a peptide bond allows electron resonance stabilization to occur such that the peptide bond exhibits rigidity not unlike the typical -C=C- double bond. The peptide bond is, therefore, said to have partial double-bond character.
Good stuff Polk. Here some for ya:
Optical Properties of the Amino Acids
A tetrahedral carbon atom with 4 distinct constituents is said to be chiral. The one amino acid not exhibiting chirality is glycine since its '"R-group" is a hydrogen atom. Chirality describes the handedness of a molecule that is observable by the ability of a molecule to rotate the plane of polarized light either to the right (dextrorotatory) or to the left (levorotatory). All of the amino acids in proteins exhibit the same absolute steric configuration as L-glyceraldehyde. Therefore, they are all L-a-amino acids. D-amino acids are never found in proteins, although they exist in nature. D-amino acids are often found in polypetide antibiotics.
The aromatic R-groups in amino acids absorb ultraviolet light with an absorbance maximum in the range of 280nm. The ability of proteins to absorb ultraviolet light is predominantly due to the presence of the tryptophan which strongly absorbs ultraviolet light.
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The Peptide Bond
Peptide bond formation is a condensation reaction leading to the polymerization of amino acids into peptides and proteins. Peptides are small consisting of few amino acids. A number of hormones and neurotransmitters are peptides. Additionally, several antibiotics and antitumor agents are peptides. Proteins are polypeptides of greatly divergent length. The simplest peptide, a dipeptide, contains a single peptide bond formed by the condensation of the carboxyl group of one amino acid with the amino group of the second with the concomitant elimination of water. The presence of the carbonyl group in a peptide bond allows electron resonance stabilization to occur such that the peptide bond exhibits rigidity not unlike the typical -C=C- double bond. The peptide bond is, therefore, said to have partial double-bond character.
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wonderwoman
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Relesser said:Body LanguageGet it!!!
haha, very funny!
but there's no way i'm getting or even going to try to attempt to get 80 grams of protein a day. i'd have to eat a house! problem is i cant have whey and any of that isolate stuff. guess i will just stick to my tuna and boca burgers!
April"135"
New member
ok, my eyes kind of blurred after a little while so I may have missed this, but the amount of protein you mentioned was for muscle mass building. How does that translate to those of us who are concentration on fat burning. I realize the 2 do go together but I've also been told that while trying to shed large amounts of fat a person should not work on building muscle. According to the list you had, I would be eating around 200 grams of protein a day????? That would be well over 50% of my total calorie intake. How does that work out?
houstontrainer
New member
Protein intake for weight loss
Protein should never be 50% of your caloric intake. I would personally say 30% max. Try this: take your calorie count and multiply by .25 (or 25%). Then, divide that by 4 for the number of grams per calorie.
Example:
2000 calorie diet
25% protein - 4 grams per calorie
55% carbohydrates - 4 grams per calorie
20% fats - 9 grams per calorie
.25 * 2000 = 500 calories
500 / 4 = 125 grams
125 / 5 = 25 grams per meal (5 meals per day)
IMHO, if this exceeds 1.5g per kilogram of body weight (unless you are a bodybuilder), then you're taken in too much protein. To get to this amount, just adjust the percentage for protein.
HTH
April"135" said:
Protein should never be 50% of your caloric intake. I would personally say 30% max. Try this: take your calorie count and multiply by .25 (or 25%). Then, divide that by 4 for the number of grams per calorie.
Example:
2000 calorie diet
25% protein - 4 grams per calorie
55% carbohydrates - 4 grams per calorie
20% fats - 9 grams per calorie
.25 * 2000 = 500 calories
500 / 4 = 125 grams
125 / 5 = 25 grams per meal (5 meals per day)
IMHO, if this exceeds 1.5g per kilogram of body weight (unless you are a bodybuilder), then you're taken in too much protein. To get to this amount, just adjust the percentage for protein.
HTH
crazgroter
New member
Interesting stuff about protein. I found this online.
Myth #1: High protein intakes will not affect muscle protein synthesis.
Fact: Greater availability of amino acids means more protein synthesis within muscle cells.
I will concede that experiments have been performed that indicate that a lab animal can survive on a very limited protein intake assuming that fat and carbohydrate intake is adequate. Simply put, the body begins to reduce that amount of amino acid oxidation in order to spare nitrogen containing compounds. Yet can we really apply this kind of example to adult humans trying to build muscle? I think not.
When the body begins getting stingy with amino acids because of low protein intake, non essential functions, such as skeletal muscle protein synthesis, drop to minimal levels. Other functions within the body such as the immune system, which uses glutamine primarily of muscle origin for fuel, also begins to suffer.9 This cripples the body's ability to cope with the stress and tissue damage induced by intense training. Researchers even believe that currently recommended protein intakes may actually predispose people to illness because of the limited reserve of amino acids. Here's what they have to say about current recommendations for protein intake:
"...It seems reasonable to conclude that the lowered rate of whole-body and perhaps muscle protein turnover that appears to occur in healthy adult subjects when intakes of indispensable amino acids approximate the current international figures, would probably diminish the individuals capacity to withstand successfully a major stressful stimulus. Again, for those reasons, we view the significant reduction in the rate of body protein turnover in healthy adults, which permits them to more closely approach or even achieve amino acid balance at currently accepted amino acid requirement intakes, as an accommodation. Thus we further conclude that these international requirement intakes are probably not sufficient to maintain a desirable or adapted state."(Young VR., Marchini JS. Mechanisms and nutritional significance of metabolic responses to altered intakes of protein and amino acids, with reference to nutritional adaptation in humans. Am J Clin Nutr 1990;51:270-89) Emphasis added.
Research clearly shows that by increasing blood levels of amino acids you increase protein synthesis in skeletal muscle. It has also been shown that you can maintain a positive nitrogen balance for extended periods of time and that nitrogen accretion will tend to continue as long as protein intake is high. Clearly if you want to maximize your gains in the gym you've gotta get more protein than the average Joe.
Myth #2: You can only assimilate 30 grams of protein at one sitting.
Fact: The body has the ability to digest and assimilate much more than 30 grams of protein from a single meal.
Speaking of high intakes of protein, people have been perpetuating the myth that you can only assimilate ~30 grams of protein at a time, making protein meals any greater than a 6 oz. chicken breast a waste. This is anything but true. For example, the digestibility of meat (i.e. beef, poultry, pork and fish) is about 97% efficient. If you eat 25 grams of beef, you will absorb into the blood stream 97% of the protein in that piece of meat. If, on the other hand, you eat a 10 oz steak containing about 60 grams of protein, you will again digest and absorb 97% of the protein. If you could only assimilate 30 grams of protein at a time, why would researchers be using in excess of 40 grams of protein to stimulate muscle growth?
Critics of high protein intakes may try to point out that increased protein intake only leads to increased protein oxidation. This is true, nevertheless, some researchers speculate that this increase in protein oxidation following high protein intakes may initiate something they call the "anabolic drive".13 The anabolic drive is characterized by hyperaminoacidemia, an increase in both protein synthesis and breakdown with an overall positive nitrogen balance. In animals, there is a correspondent increase in anabolic hormones such as IGF-1 and GH. Though this response is difficult to identify in humans, an increase in lean tissue accretion does occur with exaggerated protein intakes.
The take home message is that, if you are going to maximize muscle growth you have to minimize muscle loss, and maximize protein synthesis. Research clearly shows this is accomplished with heavy training, adequate calories, and very importantly high protein consumption. This means that meals containing more than 30 grams of protein will be the norm. Not to worry, all that protein will certainly be used effectively by the body.
Myth #1: High protein intakes will not affect muscle protein synthesis.
Fact: Greater availability of amino acids means more protein synthesis within muscle cells.
I will concede that experiments have been performed that indicate that a lab animal can survive on a very limited protein intake assuming that fat and carbohydrate intake is adequate. Simply put, the body begins to reduce that amount of amino acid oxidation in order to spare nitrogen containing compounds. Yet can we really apply this kind of example to adult humans trying to build muscle? I think not.
When the body begins getting stingy with amino acids because of low protein intake, non essential functions, such as skeletal muscle protein synthesis, drop to minimal levels. Other functions within the body such as the immune system, which uses glutamine primarily of muscle origin for fuel, also begins to suffer.9 This cripples the body's ability to cope with the stress and tissue damage induced by intense training. Researchers even believe that currently recommended protein intakes may actually predispose people to illness because of the limited reserve of amino acids. Here's what they have to say about current recommendations for protein intake:
"...It seems reasonable to conclude that the lowered rate of whole-body and perhaps muscle protein turnover that appears to occur in healthy adult subjects when intakes of indispensable amino acids approximate the current international figures, would probably diminish the individuals capacity to withstand successfully a major stressful stimulus. Again, for those reasons, we view the significant reduction in the rate of body protein turnover in healthy adults, which permits them to more closely approach or even achieve amino acid balance at currently accepted amino acid requirement intakes, as an accommodation. Thus we further conclude that these international requirement intakes are probably not sufficient to maintain a desirable or adapted state."(Young VR., Marchini JS. Mechanisms and nutritional significance of metabolic responses to altered intakes of protein and amino acids, with reference to nutritional adaptation in humans. Am J Clin Nutr 1990;51:270-89) Emphasis added.
Research clearly shows that by increasing blood levels of amino acids you increase protein synthesis in skeletal muscle. It has also been shown that you can maintain a positive nitrogen balance for extended periods of time and that nitrogen accretion will tend to continue as long as protein intake is high. Clearly if you want to maximize your gains in the gym you've gotta get more protein than the average Joe.
Myth #2: You can only assimilate 30 grams of protein at one sitting.
Fact: The body has the ability to digest and assimilate much more than 30 grams of protein from a single meal.
Speaking of high intakes of protein, people have been perpetuating the myth that you can only assimilate ~30 grams of protein at a time, making protein meals any greater than a 6 oz. chicken breast a waste. This is anything but true. For example, the digestibility of meat (i.e. beef, poultry, pork and fish) is about 97% efficient. If you eat 25 grams of beef, you will absorb into the blood stream 97% of the protein in that piece of meat. If, on the other hand, you eat a 10 oz steak containing about 60 grams of protein, you will again digest and absorb 97% of the protein. If you could only assimilate 30 grams of protein at a time, why would researchers be using in excess of 40 grams of protein to stimulate muscle growth?
Critics of high protein intakes may try to point out that increased protein intake only leads to increased protein oxidation. This is true, nevertheless, some researchers speculate that this increase in protein oxidation following high protein intakes may initiate something they call the "anabolic drive".13 The anabolic drive is characterized by hyperaminoacidemia, an increase in both protein synthesis and breakdown with an overall positive nitrogen balance. In animals, there is a correspondent increase in anabolic hormones such as IGF-1 and GH. Though this response is difficult to identify in humans, an increase in lean tissue accretion does occur with exaggerated protein intakes.
The take home message is that, if you are going to maximize muscle growth you have to minimize muscle loss, and maximize protein synthesis. Research clearly shows this is accomplished with heavy training, adequate calories, and very importantly high protein consumption. This means that meals containing more than 30 grams of protein will be the norm. Not to worry, all that protein will certainly be used effectively by the body.
tugcharles
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Does anyone find it odd that only new users on most sites that I have looked up about Scirion are newbie’s to the site? If you go from site to site it is obvious that the same person or a couple of people go around searching for Scirion, registering to sites found, and posting great remarks. They have a formula... it goes like this:
Found your site through ________ various search engine
Your site is so great ________ more filler
Scirion is a great certification _______ more filler.
You might want to consider the source before believing anything you see on any site where people can just go on and post as I am.
Notice every single person that talks well about Scirion has only one to five postings.
Please tell me I am not the only one seeing this.
I know some newbie’s are now going to come on here and say I don't know what I am talking about.
JUST WATCH!!!!!!
P.S. I have a masters degree in exercise physiology… this does not take a genius to figure out what is going on here.
Does anyone find it odd that only new users on most sites that I have looked up about Scirion are newbie’s to the site? If you go from site to site it is obvious that the same person or a couple of people go around searching for Scirion, registering to sites found, and posting great remarks. They have a formula... it goes like this:
Found your site through ________ various search engine
Your site is so great ________ more filler
Scirion is a great certification _______ more filler.
You might want to consider the source before believing anything you see on any site where people can just go on and post as I am.
Notice every single person that talks well about Scirion has only one to five postings.
Please tell me I am not the only one seeing this.
I know some newbie’s are now going to come on here and say I don't know what I am talking about.
JUST WATCH!!!!!!
P.S. I have a masters degree in exercise physiology… this does not take a genius to figure out what is going on here.
colleengelinas
New member
TugCharles. You are going to every website you can and you're posting the same message. You are doing the exact same thing you seem to be against. What a joke!!!! You are a spammer.
Tugcharles is correct in his assumption. I was doing a search on this company as well and have found many forums have postive stuff from people with less than 10 postings and sometimes less than 5. Do what I am doing, do your homework on this before you spend your money on this place. Mods may want to keep an eye on this thing.
Parsonsgoal
New member
We’re all finding this site on Yahoo or Google. I think if you look at the percentages of posts per thread, it actually makes sense. Most threads receive anywhere from 100-400 views. The Scirion threads receive 20 times that because they are all over the place with their webcast certifications. They are one of the few agencies I’ve been able to find that are even doing webcast certs. With that many people viewing a thread, numerically some are going to add their two cents (like us!). I think everyone has their own agenda when they post something anyway. If it’s a negative post, it’s regarded as a “public awareness” message. However, if someone posts something positive about a company then it’s considered spam? Kind of a double standard in my opinion. I really don’t care if a read a positive from a person who is a newbie or a long time member as long as it’s a positive because most companies have nothing but negatives written about them.
nicoleweeks
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is the website. I am interested simply to make a little extra cash on the side proctoring their exams. If there's more to it than that, then I won't do it. Anyone have any success doing this?
-Nicole
-Nicole
Parsonsgoal
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I've checked around about these guys and it sounds like a very good opportunity. I met a guy online from New York who instructs trainers for them and he had much praise to give about the organization and how they treat their employees. He supposedly is making a lot of money. Who knows? I sent them my resume a few weeks back but have yet to hear back from them.