Runner's World Magazine

I just read something in this magazine that makes no sense:

"...in your 30's you'll start to lose muscle mass (about four percent per decade). 'Age related muscle loss is obligatory and can't be stopped with exercise, but it can be slowed' says exercise scientist Steven Hawkins, PhD...."

WTF? Can't be stopped? You can actually ADD muscle mass for at least a couple decades past your 30's. What could this guy possibly be thinking?

Chillen, you didn't really put on about 7 lbs of muscle mass, it's impossible according to this doc LOL:yelrotflmao:
 
...got to thinking about this more and surely he meant "The ONSET can be significantly delayed (by around 30-40 years)
 
I think they probably mean your capacity for muscle gain is deteriorating. So, if you have as much muscle as your body can handle, then it is true that you can't gain, but if you can gain muscle mass, you just aren't gaining it as fast as you would have been at a younger age.
 
He seems to miss the power of how adaptive the human body can be with a person that is middle aged, and healthy.

I wish I had my original pic when I started. I list myself at 5' 7", but I am actually closer to 5' 6.11 1/2" :). The closest pic to when I started, most of you have already seen, and this was approximately 4 months or so into my 30 pound fat tissue loss quest. I was 190ish pounds at the beginning, had man boobs, and could litterally where a bra, and wore 40 inch pants. My arm size was about 12", and I was an old, weak, middle aged man, truth be told. In addition, my chest size was under 36", and I had no back muscles to speak of (hell I didnt know I had lats, until they starting showing up--what are those things, lol).

I looked every bit the part of one aging and declining; showed many signs of age related biological function decline that naturally occur as we age. There is no doubt.

When I started, I could barely bench press 40lbs (not including Olympic bar), barely peform 2 to 3 pushups, barely perform 3 half-up situps, and on and on with the like fitness weaknesses.

But through diet and fitness, it did in fact turn things around, and the doc needs his own head medically examined.

Dare I say it! If I had no physical progress all the time I had sweated and bled in my diet and fitness quest, I would have flat gave up along time ago due to severe lack of progress. But this wasnt the case.

I can now peform over 100 pushups in one go, over 300 half-up situps in one go, and bench twice my weight (my current weight 160-161), dropped 30 pounds, gained about 4 inches on my arms (they are 16"), my chest is in the lower to mid 40's in size (43 to 45), and my waist is 29 to 30 inches, and to be blunt, and I dont say this often, so give me a break, I have abs that some persons my age only dream about. Alot of the fat tissue weight I lost, was also replaced with muscle tissue weight gained. At one point, I was 152-154, and I am now 160 to 161, and in BETTER muscular condition than former weight, AND lower body fat.

The doc needs his head examined to get it functioning more properly.

It is in fact true we do decline as we age, and associated biological functions concerning growth do in fact decline as we age, but it is NOT true we cannot grow muscle. I still have a fairly efficient body. It will EASILY put on the fat pounds if I am not careful, but it will take it off just as easily when the fat supply is in bulk, and tends to be somewhat of a bastard below 10%.

My point here I am making is the one over 40 can in fact improve their situation. However, it is true we decline as we age.

I will admit, one thing. Considering my progress being middle aged and keeping all things equal in diet and fitness, I think its fairly safe to say, that if I was 20 years younger, the results could have been much improved. I dont concern myself with the things I can not control but only the things I can.

I am the missing link, in evolution! ;) He, he, (reference the ID thread) :)

Chillen


Behold the power of the mind. I embrace my physical limitations, my mental limitations, my biological feed back within my diet and training, and maintain a consistency of being personally combative. This makes my body combative in return and embrace the change I desire.
 
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Well said.

I've searched for your "before" pic, but never found it. Now I'm intrigued.

P.S. I'd also tell that doc to look at Sean Penn. He's about your age and he has a hell of a lot more muscle mass than he did in his 20s.
 
Well said.

I've searched for your "before" pic, but never found it. Now I'm intrigued.

P.S. I'd also tell that doc to look at Sean Penn. He's about your age and he has a hell of a lot more muscle mass than he did in his 20s.

I have more muscle now than I did when I was in my 20's. Now, bare in mind I didnt consistently weight train. I went through Army Basic Training, OCS, and the Law Enforcement Academy in my prime, but these are more endurance based activities. In addition, what was interesting to me, is the rate of fat tissue growth. I was about 30ish pounds over weight, and this averages out to be just over 1 lb per year of fat tissue gain, spanning 25 years, with the bulk of it coming post 25 years old.

I posted the BEFORE pic in the COL....But like I said it was several months into diet and training.

Chillen
 
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I have more muscle now than I did when I was in my 20's.

Yeah, that's what I mean. I bet a lot of people do. He probably knows who Sean Penn is though:)

For me it wasr easier to put on muscle mass after my 20's because my hellacious metabolism slowed just enough so I could put on weight
 
Yeah, that's what I mean. I bet a lot of people do. He probably knows who Sean Penn is though:)

For me it wasr easier to put on muscle mass after my 20's because my hellacious metabolism slowed just enough so I could put on weight



Your metabolism is so fast, you burn all the calories in the food you are about to eat---before you eat it.

MOST OF US, are normal human beings.

STFU! :)

He, he, ;)

Lucky turd,,,,,,:)


Chillen
 
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I wish I lived close to you.

Why?

So you could just breathe on me and have a thermogenic effect increasing my metabolism.


:)


Chillen
 
LOL, I don't feel so lucky right now, I lost 5 lbs while I was sick and don't know how the hell I'll ever put it back on.

I should dig up a pic of myself at 16 or 17. I probably ate 4000 cals/day and I looked like a pipe cleaner. I was always a lot stronger than I looked though. The only guy in school who ever beat me left handed (I'm a lefty) in arm wrestling was our star running back. I beat most guys right too and they'd just look at me and look all confused LOL
 
LOL, I don't feel so lucky right now, I lost 5 lbs while I was sick and don't know how the hell I'll ever put it back on.

I should dig up a pic of myself at 16 or 17. I probably ate 4000 cals/day and I looked like a pipe cleaner. I was always a lot stronger than I looked though. The only guy in school who ever beat me left handed (I'm a lefty) in arm wrestling was our star running back. I beat most guys right too and they'd just look at me and look all confused LOL

IMO, there is a "personal science" involved in what a person will tolerate and what they will not tolerate within their lifestyle when it concerns adding in diet and fitness.

I know you have seen many of my posts in the past Gooch, so I will spare some of it, but I firmly believe in the personal science of tracking calories and governing this calorie intake in conjunction with bodily feedback (I think you know what I am getting at with this, so I will not go any further). All you have to to do is use the tracking data correctly and manipulate your calorie intake v activity ratio, and you WILL gain weight, and gain it in a solid and steady rate--------despite your fast metabolsim IF your personal science is used correctly.


Chillen
 
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yeah, I know I can and will.. It's just a pain in the ass to force feed yourself (trust me on this one)



...have you experienced this?..I was maintaining then I got a stomach virus and couldn't get my calories in for a few days. I wonder if since it dropped in such an abrupt way if at least some will come back at my maintenance level, or will I have to actually bulk?
 
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Man, the things I would do to be rewarded with a 5000 calorie metabolism. I'd be eating a can of peanut butter a day.
 
yeah, I know I can and will.. It's just a pain in the ass to force feed yourself (trust me on this one)



...have you experienced this?..I was maintaining then I got a stomach virus and couldn't get my calories in for a few days. I wonder if since it dropped in such an abrupt way if at least some will come back at my maintenance level, or will I have to actually bulk?

Truthfully, I know the "approximate" calorie point, where I will begin to gain weight, if I maintain a surplus over this point for long enough time frame (usually a 9 day span). My body will litterally pack it on, I swell like a balloon, and my strength intensifies, "especially" after a deficit period.

When you got sick, Gooch, a natural thing happened, IMO. Prior to you getting sick, your calorie INTAKE was normal (according to your personal goals). Then suddenly, you became sick (and body isnt functioning optimally) and you were fighting a virus, and our calories suddenly DROPPED. THIS IS A KEY THING TO REMEMBER IN DIETS---even when NOT SICK. Between fighting the virus, and the sudden calorie drop (its like dropping off a cliff suddenly), you were in a PRIME environment to lose body weight, and this is NORMAL, IMO. Basically you entered a forced......manipulation of calories by being sick, if you understand what I am getting at. In addition, you probably lost some water weight, which probably figures in the weight loss ratio as well.

After a sickness you dont want to enter a deficit, IMO. If anything, you should add a small calculated surplus to aide recovery and rebuild body nutrients. Track this for about one week, and see how much weight returns. IMO after a major sickness its all about personal recovery, and then going about normal diet and fitness business.

When you say you lost weight do you mean both muscle and fat tissue? One or the other? Or more one than the other? A lack of water can wreak havoc on weight, and consuming liquids and proper nutrients properly, and you just may be suprised.

Whether you want to admit it or not, you DO have a top off point on your calorie intake--you have to find it. In addition, you also just learned something about yourself.......If you maintain a high calorie intake with your high metabolism, and you suddenly drop it.....it seems you just may have an efficient body that will react strong in the reverse with calculated deficits and activity.

And your body will return the favor, when you do find your top off point.


Chillen
 
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I lost 5 lbs in 6 days. I only ate under my maint. for 3 days, but just kept losing. I figure it's probably impossible to lose that much tissue at once so hopefully I'll become rehydrated and most will come back....come to think of it I did have night sweats while I was sick to the point of changing my shirt in the middle of the night.

I think some actually is fat, my abs look slightly leaner. It's hard to say if there has been muscle loss. I'm weak right now, but that's to be expected.

If there has been no muscle loss, I'm good, but I know you can't lose 5 lbs of fat in 6 days


..and yes, I know I can gain weight, but it's just very hard eating healthy food. When I was 35 lbs heavier It was easy because I would eat whatever mega-calorie fast food crap I wanted.
 
Holy crap, there's a before pic? I'm going digging.
 
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