Sport Rules vs Tools

Sport Fitness
Exercise and health sciences are a problematic breed. Physics is right up the top of the food chain in terms of solid, reliable science, and yet what's believed to be true in physics today could be proven false tomorrow. Exercise and health sciences are way down the other end of the spectrum, due to the nature of the field. The fact that this field deals with humans and all our variables makes it much harder to pinpoint specific, solid scientific theories. Often times, the information we want to know in this field is limited to correlations and trends, instead of exact cause and effect principles. It's important that we understand this as we approach information on fitness and nutrition to keep ourselves level-headed.

In light of that, what should we make of the so-called "rules" and the so-called "myths" in the fitness and nutrition industry?

I feel that it's important for us to recognise that there's more than one way to get from where we are to where we're going. In his video Nick Horton (weightlifting coach) addresses the way we tend to think about exercise and diet programs, vs how we should actually think about it. We tend to think of the issue as trying to get from point A to point B in the most efficient way possible, on the assumption that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. However, what we should be thinking is that point A is the north pole, point B is the south pole, and we're traveling along a sphere, allowing there to be an infinite number of shortest distances from point A to point B. Each shortest distance probably works around similar rules or principles, but may have vastly different tools at play to act on those rules.

An example of this is meal frequency. Many trainers treat it as a rule that you have to eat a certain amount of food every certain amount of hours. 30g protein per meal and 6 meals a day scaled to your calorie needs seems to be a common "rule." But is it really a rule, or is it a tool? Well, a whole lot of correlations and trends indicate that this methodology is a tool, not a rule, and the same results can be achieved with completely different meal timings.

So, what exactly are the rules for exercise nutrition?

The first rule is to refer back to the opening paragraph, and acknowledge that what I treat as facts in this writing today may be proven false tomorrow. But based on current evidence, the following things need to be adhered to:

1. Calories. Calories are a measurement of energy, and when energy is condensed it becomes mass. This is why calorie consumption (and, more directly, calorie uptake) is so important in influencing our body weight. If we uptake fewer calories than we use, then we'll dig into our own body mass to convert it into energy for survival. If we uptake more calories than we use, then the extra calories will be converted into body mass (primarily in the form of muscle and fat, not necessarily in that order).

2. Marco-nutrients. The requirements here are less clear, but for an active person, meeting every kilogram of bodyweight with 2g protein and 1g fat per day seems to have good results with regards to body composition (whether weight gained/lost is in the form of muscle or fat) and hormone profiles. Some say there is extra benefit to consuming more than this much protein and fat each day, others say that even this much is more than enough, still others regard these numbers as optimal. I've noticed that those who call these numbers too low tend to be trying to sell a certain diet, book or supplement, those who call these bumbers too high tend to be trying to sell a vegan diet, and those who say these numbers are about right tend to be trying to get you fitter and stronger, so I'd say (for now) that these numbers are probably a safe bet.

As for carbohydrates, whatever calories you don't get from protein and fat will be coming from carbs. If we assume that the above numbers are accurate and relevant, then carbs become the easiest macro-nutrient to play around with within your calorie needs. At this level, high carb, moderate carb, low carb and no carb diets become tools, not rules.

3. Micro-nutrients. These are mostly your vitamins and minerals. I'm not going to recite the RDI's for these, but you should be consuming a healthy dose of them daily.

4. Poison. Avoid eating it. Consumption generally doesn't end well.

So long as these 4 points are covered, adherence to your diet will usually work. Your diet should adhere to your calorie needs, your macro-nutrient needs, your micro-nutrient needs, and your need to not get poisoned. Whether that means going paleo, following the Zone diet, Atkins, Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers, eating 10 meals a day, eating only once or twice a day....these are all tools. If the tools result in your following the rules, it's all good. If not, it isn't. So my recommendation then becomes to figure out what tools allow you to stick to the rules in order to achieve your goals. If eating lots of small meals allows you to lose weight and physically feel good at the same time, you have my permission to eat lots of small meals. If doing so makes you feel like a zombie, try a different method. If intermittent fasting results in you physically feeling good and achieve your goals, do it. If not, move on.
 
I think the RDA's recommendations for 2. Macro-Nutrients are based upon BS really..

They have no decent justification that i can find.

Yes, you need protein, fat, and a little sugar to run your brain (but you can produce this anyway via gluconeogensis).
 
Sam Sam
The human animal is capable of converting various things to glucose, something we have relied on for our survival, but is best suited to a diet where most of our calorific intake is complex carbs, starch.
As goldfish says knowledge is our current perception of the information at hand. However this is agreed upon by every group going from nutritionists studying us now, through anatomists studying our bodies to archaeologists studying how we have developed over millions of years. With this weight of support I will stick my neck out and declare a balanced diet will not consist mainly of protein and fat with a bit of sugar, but be mostly complex carbs 60-65%, then protein 25% and fat 12.5%. Some carbs can be sugars but recommended is 5% of the carb intake maximum. This is a guideline for average person.

The macro nutrients argument is one I am not totally sold on because it is calculated based on bodyweight, without considering activity level. As such I stick to balance and increase everything. This doesn't mean the macro nutrient is not spot on for most people, but I think it needs to be considered a guide like many other tools, not a religion, basically exactly what goldfish said.

My diet is high carb, likely at least 70% of calorie intake. Protein intake likely above the 2g per kg mark, but around 20% of intake and fat is around 10%. I do supplement vitamins, because I would rather be safe than sorry on something this easy to get wrong, but probably don't need to. My weakness is sweet food, but I keep this relatively in check, most days.
At 21 I was 12 stones, 168 pounds, 76kg, I have varied my diet and training a great deal, keeping a good balance. Now I am consuming 4,500 to 5,000 calories a day, and after almost 2 decades I am still the same weight, though a lot of the hair has gone so there must be some excess fat replacing it.
 
^ I remember being given guidelines back when I was a PT student that were something like this for protein intake:

Sedentary: 0.8-1g/kg/day.
Light activity: 1-1.2g/kg/day.
Endurance: 1.2-1.4g/kg/day.
Strength: 1.5-1.7g/kg/day.

There you have an example of macro-nutrient needs changing based on activity. I think most people on the forums are probably involved in strength and/or endurance training with physique goals in mind (notably, bodybuilding isn't mentioned above, and I suspect that protein is even more important when specifically working on muscle mass, not just on getting stronger), and I'd prefer to be safe than sorry, so 2g/kg/day seems like a good bet tomake sure all bases are covered. I've seen some fairly reliable sources suggest slightly higher than that, usually with research to back up their claims, although I haven't seen much of the same level of research when it comes to lower recommendations. I've seen some sources that are obviously trying to sell supplements (ahem, MAX-OT, which recommends over 50% of all calories come from protein) suggest significantly higher than that. I've also seen vegan websites cling to the 0.8-1g/kg/day, indiscriminate of physical activity.

In other news, given how much you eat, I was expecting you'd be bigger (not fatter) than that. Normally when I hear about guys who consume that much at maintenance, they weigh 100kg.
 
Thank you for the macro nutrient activity variations. That is the first one I have seen that looks remotely thorough. In fairness the last book I read on the nutrition was over 15 years ago, so I will be well out of date now. I went down to such a granular level on so many areas of training and nutrition that I found higher level observation was most useful for me in some cases. Back when I was reading the protein per kilo calculations all anyone was quoting was junk from muscle magazines owned by a man who had super imposed his head on a body-builders physique to give an impressive photo, and of course sold protein supplements. I decided not to go with that due to the lack of real thought it had been given, but now it has been looked into more thoroughly.

I am a bit of a weird fish no doubt. Very aware that I do not look remotely like that volume of calories worth, which in fairness that is in part what I aim for.
My genetics made me just shy of 5'10" around 177.5cm and 9 stones, 126 pounds 57kg. At this weight I was taking part in distance running, free climbing and a range of more ridiculous and dangerous activities. So much as I was no Adonis, what pathetically little matter was on my frame was muscle, and I was capable.
As with any other scrawny hyperactive, my metabolism is ridiculous and even at that size I ate more than most doing the same training without adding excess to my body.
When I gained some measure of sanity and traded dangerous sports for weight training, I went for mass originally and over around 4 years rose to my current weight 12 stones, 168 pounds, 76kg, exactly what my initial aim was. A lot of this involved increasing intake of food and, on occasion this was uncomfortable. I have been feeding that extra weight ever since, and I found that even during a period of enforced inactivity when I was still eating more than average recommended for my size I lost weight.
Once at the target weight, unlike many I decided that I didn't want to get bigger. During the few months of target indecision a group of power lifters came to the gym I trained at and introduced me to their style of training and an expression I like, power lifters can do what body builders look like they can do. The drastic change in training meant I lost some of the prettier form in my arms, and tapering at my back, but I accepted this as inevitable when putting more weight on my shoulders meant building a thicker core, and pure compound work meant losing the arm curls etc. leaving my arms as devices to transfer power from my body to my hands rather than something to work alone.
The function over form style also opened the flood gates to various other types of training and for a good few years, I spent most of my time training at various things including ballet, boxing, endurance cycling, cross country running and a number of others that meant I was training in various directions at once.
Work was casual but I was single and the money was enough to survive on and training was my life.
By comparison now I do very little, but most still think I do a lot, perspective is wonderful. The journal covers my weight training which I change roughly every 8 weeks with eye to power, but secondary gaze on something else, this time muscular endurance by following a set of 6 with a set of 10 follow up exercise with no rest. My commute is either run or cycle, and trust me when I tell you a fit child takes a lot of energy out of you, last weekend we were charging around shooting each other with light guns for almost 2 hours in the woods, it may be winter but we were far from cold.

I enjoy being more than people expect, which is the opposite of most people who like to look more impressive than they are. I could train half a century, double all of my lifts, run at record speed, balance on the head of a pin while juggling kettlebells with my eyes closed and it would never be enough, so yes I am crazy. My desire to always go one better means expending a lot of energy and doing things I wouldn't be able to do without it.

I am a good argument against the misquote 'survival of the fittest.' Which of course Darwin never said. I am fit but my survival is possible because of the easy availability of food, in the wild I would be a liability with how inefficiently I burn calories. I used to go away on short survival trips, often a few weeks, finding my own food etc. But that was when I was 9 stones, now I would really struggle to find enough food and never get time for nature watching I enjoyed back then.
 
^ That right there is exactly the kind of stuff that inspires me.
 
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