quick question--louie simmons quote

[Proteinboy]

" We see many lifters get bowed over coming up from a squat because they push with their feet first instead of their head. We are trying to raise the bar, so why not push against the bar first? "
-louie simmons

how do you push with your head? here is the full context:

"Why does this box style of squatting teach one to squat properly. Because after squatting back so far and releasing the hip and lower oblique muscles, you must first raise the head to raise out of a deep squat. If while descending into a squat, the glutes go back first, then the head must move last. Right? The opposite of this eccentric phase is an concentric contraction, or raising. It only stands to reason that the head must raise first, and the glutes will follow.
We see many lifters get bowed over coming up from a squat because they push with their feet first instead of their head. We are trying to raise the bar, so why not push against the bar first? "

i dont get what hes saying

 

[dswithers]

I assume he is saying if you look up at the ceiling by tilting your head back as you rise up from the hole in a squat you tend not to lean as far forward and put less stress on your lower back and more on your glutes and quads where it belongs.

I find concentrating on pushing my chest up and out is more conducive to keeping my back straight.

 

[Proteinboy]

hmm..well then how come rippetoe says to keep the head down while squatting? and to drive with the hips and dont worry about keeping the chest upright?

dang..

 

[~LV~]

Cause the fitness industry has become nothing more than a he said/she said pissing battle. Sad but true.

The best method is the method that you are seeing progress with.

 

[Karky]

I don't think Louie says to look up, he says to press up against the bar.
The way he recommends keeping your head, if I remember correctly, is to push it, along with the neck, back into the bar. Go to youtube and check out some westside squat lesson vids.

 

[blackbeard]

Dayum, I missed this post. Without linking to the document you are talking of, you cannot quote Louie Simmons on box squats and then query Rippetoe's general statement on the squat.

 

[Ride_On]

Yeah you definitely shouldn't look up when you're squatting. I agree that you should bring your head "up" not in terms of tilting up though, just bringing it straight up. The best way, IMO, to squat is to just focus on the hips. Keep your head sort of down (the way Ripp says) and focus on bringing your hips straight up and down. If you do that correctly, everything else falls into place.

 

[blackbeard]

hmm..well then how come rippetoe says to keep the head down while squatting? and to drive with the hips and dont worry about keeping the chest upright?

dang..

Get a cup of coffee and point your browser to . First learn how to squat properly using Rippetoe's hip drive before looking at other material. Read up this stuff in Starting Strength, all that explaining that Rippetoe does is lost if you just cherry-pick statements from the interwebz.