Weight-Loss Question..

Weight-Loss

Cierracakes

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I noticed that if I don't eat breakfast or lunch, simply skipping them
I eat more later in the night and my stomach hurts.
Why is this?
and I just started not eating breakfast or lunch for the past two days cause I felt I should which was a mistake but tomorrow I am going to eat breakfast/lunch.

AND is there a time I shouldn't eat past?
 
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I noticed that if I don't eat breakfast or lunch, simply skipping them
I eat more later in the night and my stomach hurts.
Why is this?
You eat more because the longer you go without eating, the hungrier you get. I don't know why your stomach hurts, unless it's because you have eaten too much too fast, and it's harder to digest.
and I just started not eating breakfast or lunch for the past two days cause I felt I should which was a mistake but tomorrow I am going to eat breakfast/lunch.

AND is there a time I shouldn't eat past?

No. There isn't a time you shouldn't eat past. The only thing that matters is how much you have eaten throughout the day.
 
You should never skip breakfast. Your body needs a kick start to it's metabolism. This is very essential in losing weight. They call it breakfast for a reason, you have been fasting for many hours in the night and needs a break from that. The longer you weight throughout the day without eating will cause your body to think it is starving, therefore making you hungry. If you feel hungry it's later then it should be to eat. When you finally feed that hunger, your body will store more fat and prepare the energy for the next day you decide to go hungry again. In the end, your weightloss will be much slower and ineffective if you do not eat breakfast.

Also, ensure you are drinking lots of water, 80-100oz a day. When you do eat make sure it is 4-6 smaller meals as opposed to 3 square meals. This will also help your body maintain it's higher level of metabolism and not get hungry, preventing your body from going into starvation mode.
 
You should never skip breakfast. Your body needs a kick start to it's metabolism. This is very essential in losing weight.
Myth. Your metabolism doesn't need to be "kickstarted" in the morning. The reason people are encourged to eat breakfast is that it means they're not starving by lunchtime and eating more than they wanted to/planned to/think they are.

The longer you weight throughout the day without eating will cause your body to think it is starving, therefore making you hungry. If you feel hungry it's later then it should be to eat. When you finally feed that hunger, your body will store more fat and prepare the energy for the next day you decide to go hungry again. In the end, your weightloss will be much slower and ineffective if you do not eat breakfast.
Um. No. :) That's a whole lot of diet myth mixed into one place there. The only part that is correct is that you risk being hungrier if you skip breakfast and therefore eating more than you planned to. Otherwise - myth. Your metabolism doesn't adapt that fast. Being hungry does not mean you store more fat. None of that is true.

When you do eat make sure it is 4-6 smaller meals as opposed to 3 square meals. This will also help your body maintain it's higher level of metabolism and not get hungry, preventing your body from going into starvation mode.
Again a mish-mash of myth. It doesn't matter how many meals you eat - 1, 3, 5, 12, whatever. Metabolic adaptation doesn't happen that fast and "starvation mode" as most dieters think of it doesn't exist. In fact some recent studies have shown a metabolic INCREASE (a tiny one) when people first start fasting. It levels out pretty quickly though. Eat whenever you want, just make sure your calories and nutrients are at a healthy level.
 
Myth. Your metabolism doesn't need to be "kickstarted" in the morning. The reason people are encourged to eat breakfast is that it means they're not starving by lunchtime and eating more than they wanted to/planned to/think they are.

Agreed. It's a cockroach of a myth that will probably survive a nuclear blast. I would like add to Kara's point that:

1. A study by Johnston (2002) shows that that "a 36-hour fast, which generated a negative energy balance of approximately 12 MJ, did not induce a powerful, unconditioned stimulus to compensate on the subsequent day." This particular study shows NO powerful tendency to gorge even after missing meals for up to 3 days. Any tendency to overeat, however, may be due to psychological factors rather than physiological needs, which brings us to the next point.

2. A study by Mars (2005) found that, after 2 days of diet restriction of up to 62% produces a refeeding compensation of about 30% higher calorie intake during ad libitum (free-feeding). This study thus shows a calorie compensation, but the subjects still ate overall fewer total calories than had they eaten their regular meal quantity.

3. Although we can debate the composition of calories (high carb, low carb, high proteing, etc) and then debate meal frequency and meal timing, in the end the single irrefutable fact is that overall calorie intake determines body composition (fat or lean), and the focus should be on ways to reduce the drivers of excessive calorie intake (Swinburn, 2009).

Um. No. :) That's a whole lot of diet myth mixed into one place there. The only part that is correct is that you risk being hungrier if you skip breakfast and therefore eating more than you planned to. Otherwise - myth. Your metabolism doesn't adapt that fast. Being hungry does not mean you store more fat. None of that is true.

Hunger is an adaptive phenomenon, based on the "hunger hormone" ghrelin. In any case, there are societies that eat only once or twice a day as cultural tradition, yet don't exhibit obesity or overweight or metabolic diseases. There are countries that traditionally don't snack between meals, and are healthy and lean. And in all of these examples hunger is not an issue.

Starvation, by the way, is a physiological response to a complete depletion of fat stores, which occurs generally after about 3 or 4 weeks of complete absence of food. Not likely to happen in the Western world.

Again a mish-mash of myth. It doesn't matter how many meals you eat - 1, 3, 5, 12, whatever. Metabolic adaptation doesn't happen that fast and "starvation mode" as most dieters think of it doesn't exist. In fact some recent studies have shown a metabolic INCREASE (a tiny one) when people first start fasting. It levels out pretty quickly though. Eat whenever you want, just make sure your calories and nutrients are at a healthy level.

Agreed 1,000,000%

Best,
Johnny
 
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I think we should simply ban the two words "starvation mode" and instead use sentences such as "if you over a long period of time eat way less calories than your body needs, it will compensate as best it can by down regulating your BMR a little."

Maybe that would make people understand that it is as much about feeling a bit tired, a bit weak, a bit lazy... as it is about your metabolism slightly turning down its speed to compensate.

Then we should in the same paragraphs explain that we are not talking about the body suddenly using only 10 kcal pr. day to survive.. and explain that if that was possible that would be how we worked, since that would be magnificently efficient evolutionary.

I mean.. can you imagine... human beings, we after all have very nutritionally demanding bodies, and brains especially, that could magically lower their metabolism... the possibilities for extreme longevity, outdoor survival and whatnot... twould be amazing! especially if we, as some people seem to think, wouldn't even notice at all that our BMR had gone way down.

Now I work with people who have had their body shut down organs to lower their BMR to survive, and I'm telling you, you notice when your BMR goes down, you really... really... really... notice. And I have to believe that even the desperatest of dieters (not suffering from a phsych. disorder) would see a doctor if say... they couldn't stand up or... they fainted all the time ... their hair started falling out.. and what not..

I am officially sick of the two words "starvation mode"
 
Hi clever plant,

Yes, I'm also sick of the misuse of the term "starvation mode." :cheers2:

Also, it's a fact that animals that weigh the same tend to have the same BMR, as measured by oxygen exchange.

In other words, the less you weigh, regardless of body composition, the lower the BMR. The lighter person has a lower BMR than the heavier person.

So, if a person starts to lose weight, then his or her BMR will naturally lower itself. It's physiology, and everyone seems to misinterpret this.

I think we'd all do better to ignore "BMR," as we would be ignoring "starvation mode."

Best,
Johnny
 
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Hah, agreed, or at least it should be clearly explained that BMR is not something like say.. eye color.. that is static, it is simply defined as how much energy your body in its current state requires simply to maintain itself if no change is induced. Changes can include but is not limited to: muscle activation (movement), weight change, infection/disease and much much more.

I once heard a guy suggest, 1st year med student, that since we needed so much energy to maintain a high fever, and we really do, we should simply give people dinoprostone until they had lost weight, hilarious concept :) with recent discoveries it would also mean people would loose weight and, if injected correctly, have a hard on for weeks on end :) This might be sort of the ultimate treatment for impotent overweight old men feeling threatened by the whole cougar movement.
 
LOL, clever plant.
 
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