Question Regarding the Forum

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stroutman81

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I posted a similar thread in another section of the forum with no responses, but I don't think it was in the appropriate location.

I was hoping I could get some feedback from some of the other members of the forum and hopefully some of the moderators as well.

I was wondering what the rationale is behind splitting the forum up into Men's and Women's fitness. The two are more alike than disalike. If anything, they are almost identical.

I don't want to step on anyone's toes, especially since I just became a member yesterday. On a side note, I think this forum is fantastic! I just dont want people missing out on great posts just because a man does not think to check out the women's section or vice versa.

Thoughts?
 
I post my agreement.
 
I actually think this is a very good point and will have to agree with this. I think that the 2 forums should be combined into 1 instead of having them separate. I think 1 consolidated place to go to find useful info would benefit our members and make life easier for them.

Mods, any thoughts? Can it happen?
 
Until this past July, they were combined...

In July, some changes happened and the new forum setup is how you see it now. It took us vets some getting used to but we did it. I wouldn't be opposed to changing it back, but thats something Grandeur would have to do, us mods do not have that ability.
 
That I can't answer, I wasnt in on the decision to change it. I was actually away from the forum a bit when it happened.
 
Gotcha, well thanks for you reply. I am sure it is a pain in the arse to change the layout of the forum.....but if it benefits the members, I think it would be atleast a look into.
 
Personally, I like it as it is but, that may simply be because I'm used to it. I imagine the seperation of a mens and womens section may have been due to there being potentially different motivations or focus on different aspects of fitness between the sexes.

I rarely miss out on posts cos I read both sections and simply read the topics that interest me.

(although I did accidently start my diary int he women's section too!) lol
 
Hmmm, not sure I understand the different interest between the sexes when it comes to fitness. Weight loss applies to both sexes, bodybuilding applies to both sexes, personal trainers apply to both sexes, nutrition, certain exercises........
 
I was simply speculating as to what the reason may have been. Womens motivations for weight loss may be different to mens for example and therefore the discussions may differ too.

/shrugs

Wasn't me who changed it so, can't comment authoritatively.
 
I agree with Chris. I believe that some women, and men need motivation from same sex. This does not apply to all. For instance, if you go through the womens section, you'll know the womens question's in alot of times are asked to be answered from another women. I think the forum is easier organized the way it is. Women got questions they need to hear from another women from personal issue's we've all learned to love ".", or some guy sitting there and saying his scrotum is swelled up. To much comes into account that there are lots of differences, and its damn easier the way it is.

What I think would be a pain in the ass is combining it all back, and having to end your thread with I am Male, or I am Female. Or threads would have ****ty title's like Question for another Women.. or Question for another guy. Then you wouldn't want to read them because what catches your eye is something specific in the title that strikes and interest. Having to state those 3, and 4 words in my opinion is just to much work.

BTW, why don't we have a journel? :rolleyes:
 
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I can understand the seperation or more so the logic behind it. Women don't want to bodybuild they want to "tone". That kind of thing, however I do find the most needed of change section is the weight loss because alot of men seemed to be discouraged or confused about where to post due to it being in the womens section. Maybe a good solution is to combine all sections and then in a general section have a mens general and a womens general for any questions each sex would like to pose to another.

However regardless I just read all the sections anyway, I would read a mens general as well i am sure ha, i am just nosey like that;)
 
theleip said:
However regardless I just read all the sections anyway, I would read a mens general as well i am sure ha, i am just nosey like that;)
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I think we should ban all women from reading the mens section - don't want you girls finding out our secrets ;)
 
Hmmm, I am surprised that so many are opposed to it, but I am new around here so I will just have to get used to it, LOL.

Coming from the fitness industry, especially nowadays, there is little to no separation between the sexes. Someone above comments that women don't want to bodybuild, and that could not be further from the truth. I will show you a list of my clients who do. Another statement above mentions how women want to tone. Last time I checked, men were just as concerned about toning as women. Abs are the muscle that most heavily depends on "toning" and I think men chase abs more then women, in general.

Also, what is bodybuilding really? I consider myself a bodybuilder, yet, I don't actually go out on stage. I build the muscles on my body. That is what bodybuilding really is, adding lean muscle mass to your frame. I know for a fact, both men and women desire this, and rightfully so! The same goes for toning. When it comes to altering your body, you either gain muscle mass or shed body fat. I think all the members here, or atleast the majority, are concerned with one or the other, male or female.

In the industry, nutrition and fitness are not male or female things, it is a human thing. Both the male and female bodies work the same when it comes to gaining muscle mass or losing body fat. I know there are numerous trainers in this forum and I hope they can provide their 2 cents.

Someone above states that some men who are interested in losing fat are confused about where to post their questions because the only "weight loss" section of the forum resides under "women's fitness." So we either add another "weight loss" section under "men's fitness," or we combine the forums. Why would we make another section when both are going to be filled with great information that is applicable to both men and women?

To me, it seems logical that we would have a general fitness forum, where topics such as bodybuilding, weightloss, exercises, etc reside. Then we could have a "men's corner" and a "women's corner" for those of you who are interested in posting sex specific comments or questions. I just feel that 99% of the questions I find under men's and women's fitness right now are NOT sex specific.

I promise that I am not trying to prove some point or make a hard time, b/c truthfully, if it does not change.... I am not going to be mad or upset. Hell, I hate the idea that I could be stepping on someone's toes. I am waiting for someone to yell out, "start your own dang forum if you don't like it around here." Haha, and that could not be further from the truth. I have a true passion for helping people who need it and that is my motivation!

I simply want to hear a logical reason as to why we would not combine them.

I don't think saying, "well if we combine them we are going to have to write the word "male" or "female" in our description so one knows what sex we are" is an important issue at all. Being a trainer, if it means more people can easily find the information they seek, the better off the forum is.
 
stroutman81 said:
Hmmm, I am surprised that so many are opposed to it, but I am new around here so I will just have to get used to it, LOL.
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That sounds sensible to me. Instead of debating the layout/format and how you think it should be changed because, to you it isn't logical and doesn't reflect the 'industry', why not actually use the forum for a while before passing judgement? It really isn't that bad once you get used to it :)

Just a thought...
 
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ChrisJG said:
That sounds sensible to me. Instead of debating the layout/format and how you think it should be changed because, to you it isn't logical and doesn't reflect the 'industry', why not actually use the forum for a while before passing judgement?

Just a thought...
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Will think about that, thanks for your insight! However, I will have to disagree with you that it would only be "me" who thinks it does not reflect the industry.

If you oppose my view, which is completely fair, could you explain to me your opinion on where a "male" should post on here about weight loss? Also, why do you think that should be sererated by sex?
 
Let me put something in this guys...

When the forum was changed... this same discussion happened. Its not new.

A lot of people were opposed and we ended up getting used to it.
 
stroutman81, I honestly don't care enough about this issue to get into a lengthy debate about it (especially one that has been had before). Please don't think I am being rude, I am simply being honest.

I have no problem with the current layout and I find it neither confusing nor illogical. I am sorry that you do but, I hope that you will still be able to contribute as, judging from some of your other posts, you seem to be a pretty knowledgable chap. I genuinely believe that, having spent a while here, you will become familiar with the current layout. Who knows, you may even grow to like it ;)
 
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