I am wanting to get more defined but bulk up slighlty i was thinking about using a normal protein shake during the day then after workout using one with creatine in it etc any help?
No problem with taking protein supplements, but make sure you realize that it is indeed a supplement. It cannot, will not, and should not replace whole foods. It's also not necessary to take other than the convenience of it as far as quick and easy, cheap, etc. PWO is a good time to take it, should you choose to do so.
Creatine, again, is fine. But it's also not going to make major changes, although it can definitely be helpful. If you're going to take it, take 5g per day. You can take it PWO if you like, but you don't have to. There's a chance it will be better absorbed, but as long as you're getting 5g/day, you'll be fine.
PWO....pre work out or post workout?? I'll go with post.
I couldn't agree more with Ride_On - so many people are chugging down protein shakes like nobody's business. They are suppose to be SUPPLEMENTS, and should never be used to replace the actual protein source. This is because supplements don't contain the other nutrients (some of which probably haven't even been discovered yet) intrinsic to natural protein sources, along with the maintainance of the digestive tract.