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davidjr74

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Every time I make a diet plan something always goes wrong. Last week I started and I gained 2 pounds (I found the problem was that there was too much carbs). And I recently came off a bulking phase where I gained 17.7 pounds in 5 weeks (which is 3.7 pounds a week).

Diet Plan
Well since I figured out I am indeed an ectomorph, I need to watch my carb intake and eliminate all junkfood. I also learned a little from Dr. John Bernadi (I think thats how you spell it) to put your highest carbs need the beginning of the day and your lowest near the end which is exacly what I did.

This diet plan comes the closest to 1800 Calories, 112 carbs, 180 protein, and 70 grams as possible. The diet plan below is almost a perfect 25/40/35 (Low-carb macronutrient ratio)

Meal 1- Whey Protein, 2 cups milk pro-carb-fat
Meal 2- 2 Detour Protein Bars pro-carb-fat
Meal 3- 2 cups milk, Yogurt pro-carb-fat
Meal 4- PostWO Muscle Milk pro-carb-fat
Meal 5- 4 slices canadien bacon, 1 cheesestick, 3 eggs pro-fat
Meal 6- Tuna, 2 cheesesticks pro-fat

This totals roughly 1830 calories, 116 carbs, 192 protein, and 61 fat.

It seems that every diet plan I set myself on goes wrong. Is there anything else you want to suggest before I attempt cutting again? Or am I finnally good to go?
 
Well 1800 calories seems a little low if you want to hang on to any of that muscle you got from bulking and there is no food in your food. That is also alot of dairy my friend and the wrong kind of carbs you are getting. Whole foods,complex carbs,lean meats, just way to many supplements there.
Detour bars=over processed candy bars. Once in a while is okay but to have 2 a day as your daily diet staple isn't wise.

If this was my cutting diet, I can assure you I would be heading to the border for some taco bell.
 
theleip said:
Well 1800 calories seems a little low if you want to hang on to any of that muscle you got from bulking and there is no food in your food. That is also alot of dairy my friend and the wrong kind of carbs you are getting. Whole foods,complex carbs,lean meats, just way to many supplements there.
Detour bars=over processed candy bars. Once in a while is okay but to have 2 a day as your daily diet staple isn't wise.

If this was my cutting diet, I can assure you I would be heading to the border for some taco bell.
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Wow, couldn't have said it any better myself.
 
Along with theleip's advice, you should ditch Muscle Milk as a pwo shake. Utilize whey/dextrose at this time as there is no need for fat. All the fat will do is slow digestion of the carbs that your body is in dire need for.
 
~LV~ said:
Along with theleip's advice, you should ditch Muscle Milk as a pwo shake. Utilize whey/dextrose at this time as there is no need for fat. All the fat will do is slow digestion of the carbs that your body is in dire need for.
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Exactly what I was about to say. You need more real food too, less of the bars and shakes. Also, a lot of what Berardi talks about suggests breaking your meals up protein/carb and protein/fat not protein/carb/fat all at once (someone correct me if i'm wrong here).
 
You're right AJP, Berardi is a strong believer in nutrient timing, which goes where and whatnot. His nutrition section in Scrawny to Brawny is steller :)

I don't think I've ever said that word before....
 
ditch the Detour bar too, unless you have NO OTHER OPTION for food at that time.

bars are not the answer to cutting.

Re-read Dr. Berardi - you missed his extreme emphasis on vegetables in the diet..as I do not see a SINGLE veggie in your entire day.
 
woa, good thing I posted this... I thought that plan was good. I suck at nutrition plans....reading too many weight training articles and not enough nutrition articles apparentely.

Alright I will re-work it and then re-post with a better plan. O and sometimes I do have a problem with getting the right foods the way my family eats and the detours are the best option most of the time. I'll work on getting a new plan.

Alright I read Dr. Beradis lean eating part 2 and he provided a list of food. On his DON"T EAT list he had large amounts of milk :( ...I'm going to miss it. He said I could have a Whey Protein shake IMMEDIATELY after I workout.

Heres the list of foods
Protein:

Fish: Salmon, Tuna, Cod
Eggs
Chicken breasts
Cottage cheese
Milk protien isolates
Whey-casein blends
Lean Red Meat
Carbohydrates:

Vegetables

Mixed beans
Low-GI fruits
Oatmeal/Oat bran
Mixed-grain bread
Small amounts of protein-enriched pasta

Fats:

Flax oil
EPA/DHA
Olive oil
Mixed nuts (no peanuts)
Fish oil

The only thing on that list that I have is: Eggs, Tuna, Flax Oil, Chicken Breasts, Salmon, Cod, and whole gran bread........Not enough good carbs, and the food I have usually doesn't get replaced quickly. I'll make a new plan and post tommrow. Thanks for the advice so far.

I do have a base now to work with.
Meal 1- Protein/ Carb
Meal 2- Protein/ Carb
Meal 3- Protein/ Carb
Meal 4- Protein/ Fat
Meal 5- Protein/ Fat
Meal 6- Protein/ Fat

Its starting to make sense...

edit: is ham and canadian bacon white or red meat? I can't find seem to find the answer. They look red but I wanna be sure.
 
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New Cutting Plan

Alright, I followed you alls advice and have a new nutrition plan that was way better then before. The only problem, I think with the plan is that there is not enough fat but that is minor. Also I have rice in the plan as part of my carb which I will replace when I get oatmeal/ oat bran. But for now, that is my main carb source.

Meal 1- Pro/Carb
3 eggs
1/4 cup of Rice

Meal 2- Pro/Carb
2 cans of tuna
2 slices of wheat bread

Meal 3- Pro/Carb
1 Chicken Breast
1/4 cup of Rice

Meal 4- PostWorkout Pro/fat
Whey Protein Shake w/milk
Flax Oil Pill

Meal 5- Pro/Fat
4 Canadien Bacon Slices
1 ham slice
Flax oil pill
1 chicken breast

Meal 6- Pro/Fat
2 Cod Fillets
Flax Oil Pill
3 eggs

This makes 1825 Calories, 112 grams of carbs, 229 grams of protein, and 37 grams of fat. In my opinion, this is alot better. I have more protein, less bad and fat grams.

Also 1825 calories is enough, my maintenance is 2750 (which is a little high because my metoblism is slow). So that is a deficency of about a -1000 which is what I need because my aim is to lose 2 pounds of fat a week. So that I can be done sometime in April and have time to bulk before Football Season.

So anything wrong with this plan? I know its better then the previous one....
 
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