Weight-Loss Obesogens?

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I started an interesting article in my Men's health today. It basically said that the low calorie diet isn't always enough. Even if you take in less calories than you burn there can be foreign chemicals screwing up your weight loss program. These are what they call Obesogens and apparently mess with your hormones. They are found in soy products and it appears like in most processed foods.

Anyway, has anyone ever heard of these thing? This is the first I've heard of this myself and I really think it might have something to do with why some people have a weightloss stall when they are 10 pounds away from their goal weight.
 
I haven't researched it enough to comment but I doubt it's the reason people become obese (seems like a lot of websites are claiming this when I looked it up). It will probably become the new whipping boy for obesity much like high fructose corn syrup is right now.
But weightloss stalls suck...suck suck suck
 
Pretty much what Tamago said. Everyone is looking for a magic bullet or a reason to say "this is why I'm fat" that removes personal responsibility. This is just another of those things.
 
The jury is still out on it, but on its surface, it makes sense, especially if you look at it historically, and also in a vacuum.

In reality, yes, some of the processing is leaving some nasty nasty shit in our system. I believe personally, this does cause problems with our body systems. It's not really any one thing but the combination and near constant bombardment of these various chemicals inside of us.

Combine that with lifestyles even only 50 years ago, and we're freaking sloths by comparison. We've gone to a mostly sedentary society and combined with all this artificial crap, its a one two punch that's leaving us reeling. No, that 2 times a week raquetball or going to the gym for an hour every other day doesn't count really. That's why you see these gym superstars are completely trashed after cleaning a house all day, all while discounting the people with active jobs who do this 5-7 days a week for their living.

And you wonder who's in better health.
 
KaraCooks said:
Pretty much what Tamago said. Everyone is looking for a magic bullet or a reason to say "this is why I'm fat" that removes personal responsibility. This is just another of those things.
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I think people are both right and wrong on this. These things do definitely exist, and they definitely can cause the symptoms, create obesity as well as a host of other things. So you all are wrong on that part,

*but*

People are rather ill to non- informed about these things, and even if they are, do nothing to combat or counteract it in their life, nor do they even attempt to limit their exposure and thus risk. At the same time, they cry "This is why I can't lose weight", so at the same time, you're very right as well.

with all this artificial and imitation crap people gorge themselves while decrying the dangers of various foods and nutrients on in an effort to lose weight and be this, it's a wonder how our ancestors ever stayed thin and didn't just inflate like blimps at the mere thought of eating a hot dog.

Yet they did, but there's a reason, their concept of an activity level puts ours to shame.
 
Oh I totally agree that we fill our bodies with so much crap - artificial and otherwise - that it's hard to gauge the effects of some of it. And so much of it has been around such a short period of time (relatively speaking) that we're still woefully underinformed on who it might affect our bodies long term. For example, we know now that smoking while pregnant can influence obesity factors later in the life of the child ... but used to be that women were advised to smoke to help keep pregnancy weight down. (Can you imagine?)

But the problem with things like this is that a whole bunch of people jump on the bandwagon to blame anyone else but themselves for their weight issues. "It's not my fault - Big Food filled my diet with corn syrup." "It's not my fault - the mass media pushed this on me." "It's not my fault - I'm genetically predisposed to fat." Etc.

If these osbsogens exist and do influence fat loss, the idea that reducing calories isn't "enough" for people is just more of the same pushing off responsibility, IMO.
 
Well, yeah. If I'm so full of obesogens, how did I manage to lose 96 pounds? I avoid organic food, too. Seems like a waste of money.
 
heh, they even used to recommend cracking a beer while pregnant to settle the stomach, nowadays, people would be lining up with pitchforks if someone dared suggest that.

I could understand the cigarette thing too, nicoteine acts as an appetite suppressant.

heck, they used to give opium or heroin and later codeine for coughs. makes one wonder if so much got done because a respectable percentage of people were simply stoned off their gourds.
 
KaraCooks said:
Pretty much what Tamago said. Everyone is looking for a magic bullet or a reason to say "this is why I'm fat" that removes personal responsibility. This is just another of those things.
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No it doesn't. It says you shouldn't only reduce calories but also monitor where your food comes from, what it's packaged in and what's in it. IMO it increases your personal responsibility. So things like Lean Cuisine for example may be hurting you. Your endocrive system is a very delicate system you know.
 
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About 90% of the info on these things comes from a book called The American Diet, promoting a 6 week diet that will flatten your belly for good.



..so think about the actual sources.
 
Jericho said:
About 90% of the info on these things comes from a book called The American Diet, promoting a 6 week diet that will flatten your belly for good.



..so think about the actual sources.
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That's not the only source lol. Have you ever done a research project before?
 
Yes, care to point to a study that isn't done by someone just selling a book? Mayo Clinic? Medical case studies? Etc?
 
Jericho said:
Yes, care to point to a study that isn't done by someone just selling a book? Mayo Clinic? Medical case studies? Etc?
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Jerry Heindel at the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences. I told you guys I only read half of the article, after my coffee this morning I'll read the other half LOL
 
can't find hide or hair of Obesogens on the NIEHS site. I did look up Jerry Heindel and he has several studies. I am still looking for one about obesogens specificly.

And before you think I'm just blocking you here and there, I really do want to read something specific. I have an open mind.
 
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Stop being so cynical and believe in something for once! He's actually an expert in EDC's. Maybe you'll find something regarding that. Obesogens is more like a slang term but it has to do with hormones and your endocrine system and endocrine disruptors. He's an expert in that respect.
 
Stop being so cynical and believe in something for once!
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With all the crap out there in the fitness and weight loss industry, "believing in something" is not necessarily the best advice.

"Research things and view them with a skeptical eye" is much better advice.
 
Look, I am keeping an open mind but I don't see jack that is a real connection. No case studies or the like. I do, however, see a diet book being pushed with this phrase he coined. I do see this guy is an expert in his field but until I see something with more substance, then I will be skeptical. Prove yourself right instead of I believe you till you prove wrong.
 
KaraCooks said:
With all the crap out there in the fitness and weight loss industry, "believing in something" is not necessarily the best advice.

"Research things and view them with a skeptical eye" is much better advice.
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I was half kidding. But seriously being so cynical you can disregard some pretty interesting stuff. A lot of people will disregard something because some guys stupid book referenced it.

I honestly though this stuff was well known. Apparently this stuff is pretty new. I honestly was just looking for more research on the subject and a wait and see approach will be the best way to go because other organizations are still in the process of looking at EDC's and how they affect weight.

I didn't mean to post this as a new Weight Loss Law haha. Relax people.
 
I honestly though this stuff was well known. Apparently this stuff is pretty new. I honestly was just looking for more research on the subject and a wait and see approach will be the best way to go because other organizations are still in the process of looking at EDC's and how they affect weight.
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So...I can be skeptical of the infomation because there isn't any real data yet? The fact that I'm skeptical till I do see more research (like any scientist does).

I know it's something interesting and you wanted our opinions. I gave mine is all. I want to be shown new data cause I enjoy learning new things.
 
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